[OSM-talk] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - Mapping disputed boundaries

2019-01-26 Thread Johnparis
As promised, I have opened the Mapping Disputed Boundaries proposal for voting. Voting will be open until Feb. 10. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Mapping_disputed_boundaries#Voting The main discussion has been on the Tagging list: John

Re: [OSM-talk] junction=yes

2019-01-26 Thread Johnparis
It's pretty clear that the intention of this tag is only for junctions that have a name. It was part of this proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Named_spots_instead_of_street_names I think it would be appropriate to add some background to the wiki, and in particular to clarify the

Re: [talk-au] State Forest boundaries

2019-01-26 Thread nwastra
My proposal will not work as the notification about the rendering for boundary=protected_area https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=734592#p734592 only applies to a few classes of protected areas as I read later

[OSM-ja] [改定提案] Japan_tagging/Road_types Implies

2019-01-26 Thread yuu hayashi
hayashiです 「車両種別によるアクセス制限」が承認されたことに伴って、「Japan_tagging/Road_types」の「highway=motorwayのImplies」を改定しようと考えています 現在、改定の「草案」を作成中です 当初は、「access=no」と「小特(agricultural=no)」だけの変更をすれば良いと簡単に考えていましたが、そんな単純にはいかないことが発覚しました。 今のところのImpliesの変更点は、 * access=no を追記 * foot=no を削除 * bicycle=no を削除 * maxspeed=100 を削除

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import update

2019-01-26 Thread Pierre Béland via Talk-ca
Nate je viens juste de publier les résultats pour Kingston. Un ratio de 66% de polygones avec formes irrégulières. A voir si la simplification éliminerait les noeuds qui ont pour effet de créer des formes irrégulières. Je n'ai pas encore regardé de près les résultats. Cependant, m on

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import update

2019-01-26 Thread Pierre Béland via Talk-ca
Voici mon analyse de la géométrie des bâtiments pour Kingston.  À partir des uid des contributeurs ayant participé à l'import, j'ai téléchargé pour Kingston 5,261 batîments créés ou modifiés par eux depuis le 24 décembre. Le fichier résultat montre 5,253 batiments, quelques polygones en erreur

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import update

2019-01-26 Thread Nate Wessel
James, It does seem that someone will need to properly simplify the data since you don't seem willing to do the necessary work. I've already offered to help, but I can't do it today, or tomorrow for that matter. My suggestion, again, is that we slow down and take the time to do this right.

Re: [Talk-us] The San Jose / Santa Clara border

2019-01-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Do the latest NGS topographical maps show the city limits properly? Those are public domain On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 10:16 AM OSM Volunteer stevea < stevea...@softworkers.com> wrote: > On Jan 26, 2019, at 4:00 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: > > A mapper has recently changed this to "cut the corner off"

Re: [Talk-us] The San Jose / Santa Clara border

2019-01-26 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
On Jan 26, 2019, at 4:00 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: > A mapper has recently changed this to "cut the corner off" north of the 880 > between San Jose airport and Stevens Creek Mall / Westfield Valley Fair. You > can see the change at >

Re: [Talk-ca] Talk-ca Digest, Vol 131, Issue 48

2019-01-26 Thread James
There is also fours states to a task..clear..no action, yellow...completed and green: validated! (there's also unvalidated to flag a tile as not being done again/not being validated) You can leave comments as well! On Sat., Jan. 26, 2019, 7:53 p.m. Nate Wessel I'm all for this, so long as it

Re: [Talk-ca] Talk-ca Digest, Vol 131, Issue 48

2019-01-26 Thread Nate Wessel
I'm all for this, so long as it really is just for validation. I believe we can leave notes on tasks via the tasking manager (?), which might be a good way to catalogue any localized issues we see. Nate Wessel Jack of all trades, Master of Geography, PhD candidate in Urban Planning

Re: [talk-au] State Forest boundaries

2019-01-26 Thread cleary
I'm not sure that the changes to OSM Carto will solve this issue as I think only a few protect classes have been affected - but perhaps it is worth trying. I would like to see boundaries for a different reason - where two state forests are adjacent, the boundary between the two is not visible.

Re: [Talk-br] HOTOSM Tasking Manager - Barragem em Brumadinho

2019-01-26 Thread Narcélio de Sá Pereira Filho
Prezado segue o link para download de uma Imagem PLEIADES de 50 cm de resolução colorida RGB de 18-01-19 de Brumadinho. MG, Mina Corrego do Feijão. Ortoretificada UTM WGS 84 Fuso 23 S GEOTIF , KMZ e ECW. Ortoretificada com parâmetros orbitais. A mesma pode ser utilizada para o pŕe-mapeamento da

[OSM-talk] junction=yes

2019-01-26 Thread Jack Armstrong dan...@sprynet.com
Some users are adding junction=yes to every intersection, large or small. This seems very much incorrect to me. Is there a definitive answer as to whether this is correct or not?https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=19/-0.17531/-78.48083 ___ talk

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM Canada building import

2019-01-26 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
On Jan 26, 2019, at 12:37 PM, john whelan wrote: A history of building data released by Stats Can and how these were entered into OSM via an Ottawa pilot project, with some success and some lessons learned. Good for OSM! > The other complicating factor here is a lot of people are very

[Talk-br] HOTOSM Tasking Manager - Barragem em Brumadinho

2019-01-26 Thread Theo A
Caros membros da OSM Brazil, O Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team está consciente dos acontecimentos nas áreas ao redor da barragem em Brumadinho. Estamos em processo de criação de novas tasks no nosso Tasking Manager para ajudar nos esforços de recuperação. Nosso Tasking Manager, que poderá

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM Canada building import

2019-01-26 Thread john whelan
Bringing building outline Open Data into OSM has taken some years. The first problem to overcome was knowledge of OpenStreetMap by various levels of government. An early contact with the City of Ottawa was made by two students aged around twelve who used OpenStreetMap to build an Open Data App

Re: [talk-cz] Drobnosti k mapovani lyzarskych rozcestniku

2019-01-26 Thread Pavel Machek
On Fri 2019-01-18 14:50:59, gorn wrote: > > >Ahoj, > > > >narazil jsem na lyzarsky rozcestnik KCT, ktery ma v nazvu krome klasickych > >"bus", "zst" atd. pismenko "P" v cernem poli. Asi pro parkoviste, viz: > >https://osm.fit.vutbr.cz/fody/files/21727.jpg > >Jak znacit v tagu name? Napr. >

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM Canada building import

2019-01-26 Thread Danny McDonald
As I said before, I'd like to hear about specific problems that need to be fixed, For instance, the issues Nate raised before about large retail buildings and buildings in buildings were helpful to know about, and I believe I have fixed those issues in the areas I imported. I have also done

Re: [Talk-ca] Talk-ca Digest, Vol 131, Issue 48

2019-01-26 Thread john whelan
Perhaps a way forward at the moment would be to open the task manager up so the tiles imported so far can be validated. Having lived with computers for many years I'm in total agreement, they work very quickly but have no common sense what so ever. Cheerio John On Sat, Jan 26, 2019, 1:56 PM

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import update

2019-01-26 Thread James
I'm not installing postgesql for you to accept simplification, that YOU said was required because there were 2x as many points(which was proved wrong via the simplification) If you want to have fun with the file, go a head. On Sat., Jan. 26, 2019, 2:00 p.m. Nate Wessel Building count doesn't

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import update

2019-01-26 Thread Nate Wessel
Building count doesn't really have anything to do with preserving topology, and I'm not sure a visual inspection would cut it - Can you look at the documentation for this tool and verify that it preserves the topology of polygon layers? This is a good illustration of the (potential) problem:

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM Canada building import

2019-01-26 Thread Javier Carranza
Hi there to all, Really interested in this thread as we are precisely a community in contact with National Statistics Offices (NSOs) like Stat Can and we see a growing interest in OSM's geodatabase. I can tell the interest will remain in the coming years and we need to be prepared. As NSOs are

Re: [Talk-ca] Talk-ca Digest, Vol 131, Issue 48

2019-01-26 Thread Nate Wessel
Getting a clear idea of what needs to be fixed is what validation is all about. Having a second set of eyes look through everyone's imported data in a systematic way will give us ideas for what we need to fix moving forward. It can't be just a matter of looking at a bunch of automated

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import update

2019-01-26 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
On Jan 26, 2019, at 8:42 AM, Nate Wessel wrote: Four absolutely OUTSTANDING aspects of this project which can (seemingly must) be addressed before the Task Manager releases these (or improved/simplified) data. A salute to you, Nate, for these thoughtful words and their potential to very

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM Canada building import

2019-01-26 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
I'm changing the Subject to delete "Stats Can" as this is an import into OSM, not a Stats Can import. True, they published the data, so "thanks for the data," but Stats Can isn't a part of this conversation, they merely published the data. I say it like this to emphasize that OSM is quite

Re: [Talk-ca] Talk-ca Digest, Vol 131, Issue 48

2019-01-26 Thread Danny McDonald
1. In terms of validation, it would be helpful to have a clear idea of what sorts of problems need to be fixed. I have re-validated almost all of the areas I imported (and all of them in Central Toronto), and fixed all of the building related errors/warnings I found (with a few exceptions) there

Re: [Talk-de] Radverkehrsinfrastruktur / Lübecker Modell

2019-01-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Jan 2019, at 09:37, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > Das ist der Unterschied zwischen einem Verbot und einem Gebot. > Die Straße ist nicht verboten. Ist der Radweg blockiert durch > ein Auto oder eine Baustellen dürfen Radfahrer auf die Straße. > Ist der Radweg nicht

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import update

2019-01-26 Thread James
it does if you saw my analysis of building(polygon count) remains the same also visually inspected a few and there was preservation of them On Sat., Jan. 26, 2019, 11:43 a.m. Nate Wessel Does that preserve topology between buildings that share nodes? > Nate Wessel > Jack of all trades, Master of

Re: [Talk-ca] Talk-ca Digest, Vol 131, Issue 46

2019-01-26 Thread Pierre Béland via Talk-ca
Bonjour James Je réponds rapidement et reviendrai plus tard avec une analyse quantitative pour Kingston où j'observe visuellement beaucoup de formes irrégulières. Pour une analyse argumentée, il faut régler les petits soucis. Mon ordinateur plante lors de lecture du gros fichier geojson dans

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import update

2019-01-26 Thread Nate Wessel
Does that preserve topology between buildings that share nodes? Nate Wessel Jack of all trades, Master of Geography, PhD candidate in Urban Planning NateWessel.com On 1/26/19 11:31 AM, James wrote: no need for scripts, qgis does this fine via the Vector menu -> Geometry

[Talk-dk] Nordøstgrønland

2019-01-26 Thread Anders Hedelund
Nordøstgrønland er i øvrigt specielt på den måde, at nogle af de første europæere mødte den allersidste stamme inuitter en dag i 1836, tror jeg. De nåede stort set ikke at kommunikere. Så alt fik tildelt navne af de opdagelsesrejsende eller fangerne: Tyskere, franskmænd, nordmænd og danskere.

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import update

2019-01-26 Thread James
no need for scripts, qgis does this fine via the Vector menu -> Geometry tools -> Simplify Geometries utility. I simplified it to 20cm with the , but I think 40cm is too aggressive. I already have scripts to compile it into the dataformat needed to be served. On Sat., Jan. 26, 2019, 11:16 a.m.

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import update

2019-01-26 Thread Nate Wessel
Hi all, The wiki page is indeed looking a whole lot better right now - my thanks and congrats to everyone who contributed! There is a still a ways to go, but we seem to be getting there quickly. I'll echo John in saying that I would appreciate hearing from some of the other people who

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Opencyclemap : absence des relations network= icn

2019-01-26 Thread Phyks
Bonjour à tous, Finalement, suite aux retours de plusieurs contributeurs, je suis (re)parti sur un style CartoCSS, raster. J'ai du coup une première version (plus complète que le style vectoriel du message ci-dessous) : https://github.com/Phyks/cyclosm-cartocss-style. J'ai mis une démo de ce

[Talk-ca] Stats Can building import

2019-01-26 Thread John Whelan
Currently we seem to be at the point where some on the mailing list feel there wasn't enough discussion on talk-ca before the import. Quebec I think we should put on one side until theQuebec mappers feel more comfortable. Nate I feel has been involved in a smaller import before and in that

Re: [Talk-ca] Talk-ca Digest, Vol 131, Issue 46

2019-01-26 Thread James
i haven't simplified because, no one gave me feedback on the data...Not going to process a bunch of datafiles for someone to turn around and say the simplification broke something. On Sat., Jan. 26, 2019, 9:57 a.m. Danny McDonald Personally, I'm eager to re-start importing, but I'd like to hear

Re: [Talk-ca] Talk-ca Digest, Vol 131, Issue 46

2019-01-26 Thread Danny McDonald
Personally, I'm eager to re-start importing, but I'd like to hear what Nate has to offer. Nate, are you OK with the wiki import process as written? If not, are there specific things you want changed? The current process is the one Yaro followed, although John and I basically did the same thing

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import update

2019-01-26 Thread john whelan
I'm not certain how this addresses the concerns raised by Andrew Lester and Pierre Béland, and I seem to recall one other person who expressed concerns. I think it is important that their concerns are addressed. Perhaps they would be kind enough to comment on whether or not this approach

Re: [talk-au] State Forest boundaries

2019-01-26 Thread nwastra
If a specific protect_class seems seems too uncertain I guess protection_title= State Forest would be sufficient. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:protection_title Nevw > On 26 Jan 2019, at 5:44 pm, nwastra wrote: > > > Hi > the gazetted State Forest boundaries are not rendered

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Portillon : entrance, gate, barrier, autre ?

2019-01-26 Thread deuzeffe
Merci pour vos éclaircissements, donc barrier=gate et tous les tags associés pour préciser ! -- deuzeffe On 21/01/2019 00:01, marc marc wrote: Le 20.01.19 à 22:51, deuzeffe a écrit : entrée principale des piétons entrance=main foot=only ? access=no + foot=designated ? (l'acces=no est

Re: [Talk-dk] Sammendrag af Talk-dk, Vol 114, Udgave 5

2019-01-26 Thread Martin Hvidberg
Jeg tænkte nu ikke på byen, men på Hertugdømmet Slesvig - i sær den del som ligger i Danmark. Men jeg indrømmer at det var et dårligt eksempel. Der kan utvivlsomt nævnes bedre eksempler på at lokale indbyggere finder det upassende at folk fra andre lande har meninger om hvad deres steder bør

Re: [Talk-dk] Slesvig ??

2019-01-26 Thread Uffe Kousgaard
Martin har nok refereret til hertugdømmet "Slesvig" og ikke byen af samme navn: https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertugdømmet_Slesvig Men at det skulle være upopulært, havd tyskerne gør kan jeg heller ikke se. Vi skriver jo også rask væk Malmø, Holsten, Hamborg, Flensborg m.m. altså danske

Re: [Talk-dk] Slesvig ??

2019-01-26 Thread Sonny B. Andersen
Helt enig med Martin – bare klø på med de grønlandske navne Men dog med en stor forundring: Martin skriver ” - lige som vi ikke bryder os om at tyskerne kalde 'Slesvig' for 'Schleswig'. Det må være en misforståelse. Sidst jeg kørte forbi lå Schleswig hvor den plejer, altså inde i Tyskland, så

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Driving Test Centres

2019-01-26 Thread Tony Shield
Hi Had same problem earlier. I gave a node (5490954973) within the building=office outline office=government name=Chorley Driving Test Centre Regards TonyS999 On 25/01/2019 22:06, Silent Spike wrote: Searching the wiki I can't find anything that feels right for mapping driving test

Re: [talk-au] State Forest boundaries

2019-01-26 Thread Warin
On 26/01/19 18:44, nwastra wrote: Hi the gazetted State Forest boundaries are not rendered currently on the default map on the OpenStreetMap (OpenStreetMap Carto). landuse=forest is considered as forestry use and natural=wood are natural wooded areas not subject to forestry but both are

Re: [Talk-de] Radverkehrsinfrastruktur / Lübecker Modell

2019-01-26 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 08:32:40PM +0100, Richard wrote: > > Und bicycle=no ist wieder genau so eine Überladung von tags die wir > > nicht brauche können. Damit kannst du Straßen bei denen ein Fahrrad > > wirklich verboten ist, und eine Straße bei der ein Radweg angeordnet > > ist nicht mehr