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> Il giorno 31 ott 2019, alle ore 14:03, Nuno Caldeira
> ha scritto:
>
> it's their client responsibility for the lack of attribution not mapbox
indeed whoever publicly uses OpenStreetMap data has to attribute, it doesn’t
matter whether they get the data directly from the
So technically, i can extract frames of a movie at any ammount i want
and then mix then to recreate a movie. doesn't make sense.
Às 17:56 de 31/10/2019, Kathleen Lu escreveu:
Nuno, this isn't about what the license allows, it's about the law.
You can't re-write the law. What the law allows it w
Às 13:54 de 31/10/2019, Robert Kaiser escreveu:
That "fair use" argument is actually pretty interesting and something
that people often may not think about. IANAL, but I would guess, for
example, that taking a screenshot of your app or website, which
includes a map and also does include attr
Nuno, this isn't about what the license allows, it's about the law. You
can't re-write the law. What the law allows it would allow even if there
was no license at all.
And I would also note that, frankly, the EU is the outlier in this respect
in having database protections at all (and I would not s
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019, 17:29 Kathleen Lu, wrote:
> I'm curious as to the reason for your doubts, Nuno. Are you aware of case
> law to the contrary?
>
I'm just surprised we adopted a license that seems to be useless in USA,
according to corporate interpretation of the license even if it's for
comme
I concur with KaiRo that screenshots are likely fair uses under US law (and
IAAL). They are small excerpts of the larger work (the map, or if you are
comparing to the database, even less is copied), the underlying work is
factual, the purpose is to provide an example and there is a good argument
th
highly doubt that a derivated work from a database that has a notice
(attribution) required, which was then chopped to be considered under fair
use. Especially when this is repeated thousand of times.
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019, 13:56 Robert Kaiser, wrote:
> Simon Poole schrieb:
> > It is however impor
in theory yes, I have reached mapbox several times of clients of theirs
that are not complying with ODbL or to their terms of service. they either
stop replying, doesn't get fixed (Strava example) or gets fix after sending
9 emails during two months. this last example was regarding Livestream, a
Vi
The problem with this thread is that it is conflating different (but a
bit related) things.
- missing or less than perfect attribution,
- corporate messaging about OpenStreetMap (or more the lack of it).
As to the first point in general we are just arguing about the form, not
the principle. We h
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019, 10:25 Jeffrey Friedl, wrote:
> This thread started with "the hypocrocy continues",
> but I can't figure out what, exactly, anyone is complaining about.
>
no attribution and a barely readable attribution by a corporate member of
OSMF. that's what the hypocrocy is all about.
do a search for Strava on social media images, on twitter as examples:
https://twitter.com/MissJKirby/status/1189164486252515333?s=09
https://twitter.com/boorapong88/status/1188767309357142016?s=09
https://twitter.com/dai_walters/status/1188488659089141760?s=09
só either everyone crops the imag
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019, 02:15 Jeffrey Friedl, wrote:
> > And the hypocrisy goes on. "Strava launches gorgeous new outdoor maps"
> https://blog.mapbox.com/strava-launches-gorgeous-new-outdoor-maps-977c74cf37f9
>
> I'm not sure what you're reporting, but the maps all have "© Mapbox ©
> OpenStreetMap"
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