Hi Céline, hi all.
Like you, I'm just another participant in this list*. However, perhaps
it would be helpful to refer the existing etiquette guidelines adopted
by the OSMF ages ago: https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Etiquette .
It's clear that Frederik's original post didn't abide by all
Sorry for adding to the noise but this is important. Quote from the
document:
Changes to form part of OSMFs agenda over the coming 1-2 years:
1.
Make Working Groups and OSM activities more equitable: the
Diversity and Inclusion special committee should actively work
Considering the reaction - especially strong in the USA, and the fact
that I'm a candidate to the Board of the Openstreetmap Foundation, I
suppose I have to make a statement of my position.
In preamble, I condemn the use of sexual assault metaphor - that has no
place anywhere.
In understand
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, 4:08 PM john whelan wrote:
> In the diverse collection of people we have in OSM you will be hard
> pressed not to offend someone.
>
Really? That hasn't been a problem for me.
I hadn't realised the name Kathleen was one that either gender could use
> and I apologise for maki
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020, at 21:46, Darafei Praliaskouski via talk wrote:
> That was done by a former board member, an employee/owner of a company
> that has a seating board member, and if we mirror the whole thing -
> "done to protect Geofabrik's investment into having a seat on the
> board". Of cour
In the diverse collection of people we have in OSM you will be hard pressed
not to offend someone. The views held are very diverse. Traffic_signal or
traffic_light tagging us an example of very diverse views. I'm sure
someone will be along and give me the correct way to tag shortly.
I hadn't re
I'm noticing a pattern here in the replies to this email:
Only men have replied. This is, unfortunately, par for the course on the
OSM mailing lists. The lack of discussion by non-men is an undeniable fact.
The simplest explanation for this is the systematic institutional hostility
towards women i
No but I am suggesting dealing with it is complex and has to be done over
time. Do you ban jargon for example?
The danger in Celine's confrontational approach is we throw the baby out
with the dish water.
You have an interesting mind and know the background. How would you
approach this?
And ye
Hi,
when I write something on a mailing list, it is clear that I am the
author and that I have to take responsibility for what I write. If I
write bullshit, people will rightly point out my mistakes. If I offend
someone, it is clear who the offending party is.
This document that you have publishe
Hello,
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:48 PM Maarten Deen wrote:
> I have been silent about this but when a document is drafted where only
> supporters will be heard, I have to speak out in Frederiks support.
> I have seen no systemic aggressive behaviour that demotivates and
> excludes participation
> Many females do not map using their own name but will use a male sounding
> name to avoid problems.
John, are you seriously citing this as evidence that there is not
pervasive misogyny in the OSM community?
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Celine Jacquin:
Hello everybody
I hope you are all well
I have not commented on this before because I thought it was better to just let
it pass.
It was not a very elegant email.
But it was not misogynistic.
I did not think it was offensive or dehumanizing.
Maybe Trumps words were, but that d
The issue of diversity is complex. In Africa many of the locals whilst
feeling that it would be nice to have all local mappers they recognise
that the map would not be as complete without the armchair mappers.
Unfortunately when you work in technical areas often you'll see a group
build up ex
On 12/9/2020 2:34 PM, Maarten Deen wrote:
If you can not make an analogy then conversation and discussion is
lost and I do not see how this comment would degrade women.
Many in the world have the good fortune to live lives where the constant
threat of sexual assault is not an issue. To them, Tr
(1)
I am strongly opposed to quota system
"Board Seat allocation for OSMF members who are women and non-cis males,
and who are citizens of Low and Middle Income Countries"
(also, note that it is "citizens of", not actually poor people, also looking at
Wikipedia
"this definition is not universall
I have been silent about this but when a document is drafted where only
supporters will be heard, I have to speak out in Frederiks support.
I have seen no systemic aggressive behaviour that demotivates and
excludes participation by women and minority groups in OSM or behaviour
that degrades the
Hello everybody
I hope you are all well
We, several groups, chapters, organizations and individuals, have reacted
to the conversation in the osm-talk-list (
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085692.html)
considering that it is an incident symptomatic of the problem we ha
Am 08.12.2020 um 18:36 schrieb Rory McCann:
Yes, fundamentally, you're 100% correct. The ODbL licence is the thing that
matters when it comes to what's legally required. And that says nothing about
“device independent pixels” or “javascript popup clicks”, it only refers to the
mental state of
Also, what exactly is "to the right" in this context? North, East, South or
West?
/Andreas
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:04 AM Mario Frasca wrote:
> My experience is limited to one person in Panamá, who's used two user
> names: Kielito and Kielito1.
>
> He adds shops, one per changeset, he shortens
Hello everyone,
For those of you who might use https://opentrailview.org or https://hikar.org,
or the Hikar app, I'm posting an advanced warning that these sites will be
unavailable on the weekend of December 19/20.
This is because I am updating the underlying database of Europe OSM data, which
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