Re: [OSM-talk] Help with reverting a changeset (somebody deleted weeks and weeks of work)

2023-04-09 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
I reverted the nodes and ways. I think that the relations should be edited carefully by someone who knows the content. See https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/134706111 Pierre ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetm

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

2023-03-24 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
My workflow in the last few days was to select/process series of way id's from Frederik list with closed iterations that look to come from the same changeset. Using the JOSM Overpass query function with instructions I provided earlier, it is easy to download such a block of data, validate and c

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

2023-03-15 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
From the OSM-id list of Frederik, it is possible to query with Overpass. For the following list: id1,id2,id3,id4 -15538065,-15538064,-15538063,1137657546 I isolate negative values and query as relation, others as way. [out:xml][date:'2023-03-05T00:00:00Z']; ( way(id: 1137657546 ); relati

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

2023-03-14 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
42006 Pierre --- Original Message --- Le mardi 14 mars 2023 à 11:51, Marc_marc a écrit : > Le 14.03.23 à 13:45, Pierre Béland via talk a écrit : > > > I imported the osm metadata using overpass > > > can youu share it to avo

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

2023-03-14 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
; out meta; Overpass. We can spot other relations with the level attribute. Pierre --- Original Message --- Le mardi 14 mars 2023 à 11:51, Marc_marc a écrit : > Le 14.03.23 à 13:45, Pierre Béland via talk a écrit : > > > I imported the osm metadata using overpass > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

2023-03-14 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Using id's from the Frederick quadruplicate list, I imported the osm metadata using overpass. Note thate the negative values in the list represent relations. The table below shows that the majority of quadruplicate cases implicate only one contributor. Simple Building duplicates from the same co

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we be mapping transformers and powerlines?

2023-01-19 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Why are we mapping these infrastructures. Well these are major infrastructures and quite an asset in OSM to let compare from country to country. Dont you know https://openinframap.org/ ? I do map major infrastructures such as dams, hydro-electric power plants and substation and high voltage pow

Re: [OSM-talk] Updating of land/water polygons (based on natural=coastline) is too slow and unreliable

2020-11-22 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
The Saguenay River, a tributary of the Saint-Lawrence Estuary and a major river with salty water and tidal is an example where some contributors might have difficulty to understand that such rivers correspond to the definition of "sea" and should be tagged with natural=coastline. This Fjord more

Re: [OSM-talk] mspray stealth organized mapping

2020-05-22 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Le vendredi 22 mai 2020 10 h 40 min 51 s UTC−4, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : > Are you sure that in 72427535 buildings were just moved? If I place the mouse over a red oultine (old building), Achavi reports «Modify geometry» Loading the changeset in an editor for validation, I confi

Re: [OSM-talk] mspray stealth organized mapping

2020-05-22 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Le vendredi 22 mai 2020 07 h 29 min 19 s UTC−4, Frederik Ramm a écrit : > Sometimes users deleted a large number of > buildings e.g. here https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=72427535 > without giving a clear reason Looking at Achavi, red outlines make us think objects were deleted. But in

Re: [OSM-talk] Bridge area construction

2020-05-05 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
On 5. May 2020,  Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I think the common tag would be landuse=construction I dont think that it is appropriate to superpose a landuse over a waterway. Since the tag man_made=bridge is used, it seems better to  refer to the construction project with the tags as propos

Re: [OSM-talk] healthsites.io breaks OSM data, do not use

2020-03-22 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Thanks to the Healthsites.io Team.  See my comments below about the keys added. First point is about the addr:full  The addr wiki page suggests to avoid this key if possible. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr Second point,, the rule in OSM is to not abbreviate addresses.See  chan

[OSM-talk] Covid19 OSM Community Buzz Challenge 1. Building overlaps

2020-03-20 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
For many, we are doing social distanciation staying at home. This is a great time to do some social proximity actions from internet. We can easily do some Quality actions easy enough to show to childs or relatives nervous to do something positive. Various tools can be used. The easiest one I p

Re: [OSM-talk] fixme=name

2020-03-12 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Mar.12 2020 12 h 16 UTC−4, Volker Schmidt wrote : > It may have been a user who wanted to draw attention to the fact that she has > inserted a place>  without knowing the name.  For the Mali example given by John, an Overpass query reports some 1,200 such points north of Mali, the majority add

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-12 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Mar. 12 2020 10 h 43 min  UTC−4, Simon Poole wrote : > To use a completely different example: assume that you purchase a TV set > paid by monthly instalments and you default on them. In civilised > countries that doesn't give the seller the right to break in to your > apartment and r

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-08 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
  Pierre Mar.8, 2020 1byMateusz Konieczny > To be more clear: I fully support action like OSM France to actually enforce > license requirements using methods like described here or by a legal action > like > DMCA takedown notices against entities refusing to show a proper attribution.

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-08 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
You could use the navigator user language preference for the language to use for the message.   Pierre Le dimanche 8 mars 2020 11 h 40 min 47 s UTC−4, Christian Quest a écrit : Le 08/03/2020 à 16:00, Mario Frasca a écrit : > well, it does look slightly invasive … That's the goal.

Re: [OSM-talk] MapRoulette - cryptic tasks

2020-02-26 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Hi Martin, If we want to monitor revisions for a specific territory we take care of, I see that Maproulette Challenge offers a map where we can see I suppose individual objects/tasks for the area. Zooming in and out of the area, the numbers constantly change.  If I zoom-in, I cannot see the in

Re: [OSM-talk] Deletion of wiki page contributions Was Creation of "Data Items" by bot for undocumented tags

2020-02-19 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Joseph, If you were talking of fast food restaurants, I would understand that we expect to see these in hundred of countries.  But there are features that yes are not seen as intensively. One fast food POI counts for one. One 500km route counts also for one. This Overpass query shows that the ta

[OSM-talk] Deletion of wiki page contributions Was Creation of "Data Items" by bot for undocumented tags

2020-02-19 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Joseph, you deleted recently the link I added to the Map_features wiki page for snowmobile routes.  It seems you dont like such schema and want to impose your views here. Snowmobiles routes are as common as bike or hiking trails in nordic countries. And the snowmobile wiki page describes it.

Re: [OSM-talk] Forests are mappable - was: Re: OTG rule, borders & mountains existing | Re: Crimea situation - on the ground

2020-02-12 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Hi Mateusz The link below shows north of Canada areas, where the wood landcover correspond in general to Canvec imports. The blank areas are mostly not mapped yet except some lakes and infrastructures.https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=5/55.740/-79.804 But for Labrador, the contributors have mad

Re: [OSM-talk] OTG rule, borders & mountains existing | Re: Crimea situation - on the ground

2020-02-11 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
On Feb 11  18 h 49 min 26 s UTC−5, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: >  ??? just do not create unreasonably large multipolygons (or split existing, > possibly undo import if it makes area uneditable and do it right). Your answer seems to be that it is possible to map appropriately with the curr

Re: [OSM-talk] OTG rule, borders & mountains existing | Re: Crimea situation - on the ground

2020-02-11 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Feb 11, 15:59, stevea wrote : > Rather than get snarled in counter-examples, let's discuss how OTG isn't and > can't be strictly > followed in many cases.  It IS followed in the majority of cases, but in > those corner cases where > it isn't, because it can't be ("nothing" is OTG), must be real

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag:man_made=embankment

2020-01-15 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
I think that there is a miss-conception here. If you want to talk about the wall the retains the earth, this is the dyke. The embankment is more then a wall and is at least as large as the road and made of resistant material.  The wiki pages https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:embankment and

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping outside Europe

2020-01-07 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Eh, I am quite please to realise that the page is now available in 6 languages. The  first version of the page early 2013 was for the OpenStreetMap response North of Mali. But in later discussions, contributors did say that it did also represent reality of other African countries. We then collec

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping outside Europe

2020-01-07 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Hi Mario I am the original author of the Highway Africa Tag wiki page.  This page is now widely used outside of Africa (Asia and Latin-America) in areas where it better correspond to the reality of the roads infrastructure.  And pictures have been used to better correspond to the ligther road st

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-12-19 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Hi Nuno, How can we react positively suggesting to take care obout OSM attribution ? This is an international media and we can benefit by having a bit of fun. Plus this is Christmas coming soon and we need to think positive ! You could make tweet to https://twitter.com/BBCTwo   + using OpenStr

Re: [OSM-talk] Status / Documentation of JOSM Check for Almost for almost right angle buildings

2019-09-27 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
I have obtained infos about how to run this, filing JOSM ticket https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/18171 We first need to select in the Preferences Data Validator Panel the option «Show Informational level»Then only data downloaded with selecting a BBOX is considered (does not work with Overpa

[OSM-talk] Status / Documentation of JOSM Check for Almost for almost right angle buildings

2019-09-25 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
I can find some references to this subject in JOSM tickets and the definitiion of minimum  / maximum in JOSM Advanced paramenters. But I have no success to run the tests. The JOSM ticket https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/16189  discusses about the implementation of the Check for Almost right

[OSM-talk] Re : Tagging Governance

2019-09-10 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Hi Roland It would help To better see the structure of 1.main tags2.attributes adding detailed infos To these tags Also cases like polygons that should not be overlapped when related   To landcoverie. Amenity=university vs landuse=retail Pierre Envoyé à partir de Yahoo Courriel sur Android L

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
I agree, this would be more snappy and more international. It woulrd not be necessary to translate the attribution for various languages.   By shortening the attribution, their would be less excuses to not attribute on the map.   Pierre Le vendredi 9 août 2019 10 h 40 min 27 s UTC−4, Fre

Re: [OSM-talk] Microsoft Buildings vs. OpenStreetMap visualization

2019-08-03 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
While you observe quality problems with imports,  you can contribute to better document these problems  with samples of buildings ( list of osm_id  and brief description of observations ).   Pierre Le vendredi 2 août 2019 23 h 34 min 17 s UTC−4, AntiCompositeNumber a écrit : In my

Re: [OSM-talk] Way to delete buildings added by specific user, or help reverting?

2019-07-08 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
This link let extract object edited by this user in the area the day of this changeset.http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/KzM This shows that builidngs position correspond to presence of buildings but that geometry do not correspond to what we observe on the imagery,.  We see that buildings are aligne

Re: [OSM-talk] Map of Population Density vs. OpenStreetMap density

2019-07-06 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Speaking more generally, Populatation is growing fast in Africa and many african countries dont have the resources to organize regular census. See the UN Statistics Division record of last census by country https://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic/sources/census/censusdates.htm This means that q

Re: [OSM-talk] Mali

2019-06-30 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
John some answers about your concerns We have our own difficulties in countries like Canada to recruit contributors. Not surpsingly, for  African communities with more difficult economic conditions, they have poor, unstable internet access and less time to contribute.   Problems are multiple in

Re: [OSM-talk] Why we square buildings (WAS: iD invents nosquare=yes for buildings which should not be squared)

2019-05-11 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Am 11/05/2019 um 21.09 schrieb Simon Poole: > Just a general remark on the technical issue that sparked of this > discussion:  squaring buildings is not primarily about improving data > quality. Non-square buildings are simply visually annoying when > rendered, so much that I support squaring them

Re: [OSM-talk] iD invents nosquare=yes for buildings which should not be squared

2019-05-10 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
May 20 2019 at 14 h 02 min 51 s UTC−4, Stefan Keller wrote : > Trying to get focus back on the thread topic. > Storing hints like nosquare=yes (or square=no) is not best practice of > data curation on w worldwide level. I dont think either that this is the solution.  We have to look where these

Re: [OSM-talk] Your thoughts on osm.org

2019-03-12 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Mar 12, 2019, 5:58 PM by m...@rtijn.org:   Imagine the openstreetmap.org home page, but without the map.   What would the home page be about instead? What would be on it? Why not slightly redesign the front page with a colorfull top ribbon  + revising the content to  respond better to the public i

Re: [OSM-talk] trash racks in front or after waterway=culvert

2019-03-11 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
In Canada and probably elsewhere,  such structures are also used to control the flow of water in culverts and avoid beavers to obstruct the culvert with dams, flooding, eroding the roads or various other structures in the area.See   http://www.nature-track.com/Living_With_Beavers.html But I wo

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-01 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Below is an example of attribution that can be seen even on small devices. For the maps that I develop, I do take care to add attribution. Testing even on my phone, I can see attribution with Portrait orientation but have problems with landscape orientation since there are not enough lines. And l

[OSM-talk] JOSM Hack Trick for DigitalGlobe Premium Dual Images (Avoid automatic switch to high-res at z18)

2019-01-25 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
For the #ebola2018 OSM Response, OSM-RDC is using DigitalGlobe Premium imagery for the Tasking Manager project 5660 https://tasks.hotosm.org/project/5660. DigitalGlobe Premium superposes two images in this area. The first image is clearer and more recent but with lower resolution. Buildings look