Re: [OSM-talk] Would some wiki admin please move the page gluten_free=* back to proposal namespace

Cartinus writes: > Cool, I didn't know there was such a thing. The problem with tag voting is that it is normative. One *should* tag this way. So, should the wiki be describing these norms (which, through the nature of votring

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being "praised" for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

Paweł Paprota writes: > Sure but have you ever seen a link to OSM object (way/relation/node) in > the internet? Sure. I link to them all the time (warning, these are all associated with railroads, so if you're not a railfan, click at your peril!): This search: https://plus.google.com/u/0/s/ope

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

Martin Koppenhoefer writes: > Because it means that this is probably dead data without a community behind > it to fix problems and to do updates. That reason is *exactly* why I said back in 2006 that OSM should be in the public domain, because if you take data away from the community, it's dead

Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap

RB writes: > ID is a wonderful editor, simple and intuitive. Although I am mostly a > JOSN user, I know at least 2 beginners who feel confident enough to edit > the map since there is ID. > > Thanks very much for it. It is helping OSM a lot. This is ridiculous. I tried ID, and it didn't mak

Re: [OSM-talk] Out of Service Roads

Clifford Snow writes: > How do you tag roads that are out of service. We have a section of Widbey > Island that was wiped out by a landslide. It will be out of service for > some time. I agree with the "construction" tagging, but if the road still exists but is impassable, and there isn't any c

Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map 2013 venue selected.

Jeffrey Johnson writes: > Thanks for the explanation, unfortunately many people including me will > probably have to make a choice between the two rather than both. Alas. You can't think of ANYTHING to do in the UK for a week??? -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

Stefan Keller writes: > Just for the curious of this ridiculous U.S. trademark thing: > I found another company claiming GEOCODE as trademark: > http://www.markhound.com/trademark/search/WbEfGtOgm > And I'm wondering what these 65 services will do > http://www.programmableweb.com/apitag/geocod

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

Simon Poole writes: > I've taken the time and at least on more or less current pages have > redone the edits with a bit a finer brush, essentially with a very small > number of exceptions there should be no noticeable impact on actual > content now. > I'm reaching out to our counsel to see if

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

Having read some more on this issue, I think the board has done the right thing. Apologies to anyone offended. Christopher Woods (IWD) writes: > On 02/02/2013 21:01, Aun Yngve Johnsen wrote: > > This discussion is way out of hand. You guys screaming for publishing the > > C+D, didn't you see t

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

Richard Fairhurst writes: > Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > > Why is Openstreetmap yielding to such blatant appropriation of > > the English language ? > > Because we have bigger battles to fight. Let Google piss their money away on > defending the term "geocode". If OSM has $1m to spend, which

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

Simon Poole writes: > As you may have noticed we have removed all links displaying the Google > geocoding service from the wiki. These changes are a consequence of a > legal issue with respect to the trademark GEOCODE owned by Geocode, Inc. > of Alexandria, Virginia, USA. WRONG, and FAIL. Firs

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Future Look

Richard Fairhurst writes: > Something has gone wrong with the OSM community and I wish I knew how to fix > it. Writing code for OSM has become a really thankless, unpleasant business. Thanks! (that's one less thankless). > But really, why bother? You'll only get crap thrown at you for doing

Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset Comments

colliar writes: > I always wonder if the area/region is really important as it is already > included in the changeset data. E.g. I would not add the street, if it is > obvious where I did edit. This does not count for big areas. I try not to bother putting in the placename or the thing I modifi

Re: [OSM-talk] what to do cues

Jeff Meyer writes: > I agree that rules can be tricky. Would it be possible, to play around with > the code you've written, to see what results it generates? I never got any rules written. I wrote enough code to get to the point where I needed rules, and then couldn't come up with anything that

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

Gregory writes: > It says I've mapped 7232. > I expect I've done around 100 streets, so that works fine. But what's my > rank? WHERE ARE ALL YOU PEOPLE FINDING ALL THESE HOUSES?? I'VE ADDRESSED EVERY HOUSE WITH AN HOUR'S BICYCLE RIDE OF MY HOUSE AND I'VE ONLY GOTTEN TO 932. I feel like I can't

Re: [OSM-talk] what to do cues

Christian Quest writes: > newcomers are afraid of breaking existing stuff. I was totally afraid of breaking existing stuff. How embarrassing! Maybe if it was easier to revert a changeset, like from the person's changeset listing? -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports

Re: [OSM-talk] Cool uses of OSM

Maarten Deen writes: > I was using a train from the Erzgebirgsbahn in Germany yesterday > (Annaberg-Buchholz - Chemnitz) when I noticed the information display. > This was an OSM background on which the trains from the Erzgebirgsbahn > were overlayed. I took a few photos but I now also see t

Re: [OSM-talk] what to do cues

Jeff Meyer writes: > Are there any tools that can tip users to what they could do in a > particular map area? I have a tool to do it, but what I lack are the rules. Given an arbitrary bbox, what can we *really* say about that bbox? No park benches? Well, why not? Well, there are no parks. But ar

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

Frederik Ramm writes: > According to this list, 208 accounts have added more than 10k house > numbers - if any one of them has actually surveyed that many houses they > should be awarded a prize! A further ~ 1400 have done between 1k and 10k > numbers, and ~ 4600 have done between 100 and 1k

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF Trademark Policy

Frederik Ramm writes: > I've recently started a thread about a future OSMF trademark policy > on the osmf-talk list, here > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2012-December/001947.html > > If you're not in the OSMF (and therefore not on osmf-talk), you're of > cours

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Role of the Wiki

Scott Rollins writes: > I'll just say that, whether "bug" or "feature," this message perfectly > encapsulates why I am unwilling to spend my time working on OSM. I don't > want to waste my time, and by not having a good place to learn what to do, Scott, what Fred said! You don't need to be an e

Re: [OSM-talk] Role of the Wiki

Roland Olbricht writes: > In general: the wiki is only descriptive, but often it sounds normative. > > It is a good idea to > - use tags or tag keys that have been used quite often > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/ > - search the wiki for keywords of the thing to tag > - read the relevant

Re: [OSM-talk] How to improve addressing?

Frederik Ramm writes: > Please note that any imports have to follow the import guidelines > documented on the wiki (prior discussion on imports@, separate account > and all that). In your concrete case I would be interested to learn how > you deal with already exisiting numbered or un-number

Re: [OSM-talk] How to improve addressing?

Jeff Meyer writes: > Does anyone have a primer on best practices for improving OSM addressing > quality quickly & efficiently? I've done some research into that. I've done it four ways: o Took my county's tax maps and converted them into an import. I left the property lines off because, we

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

Janko Mihelić writes: > Yet everybody agrees we shouldn't copy from satellite photos, but many > people think we can copy from Streetview. > > What is the difference? Uh, because Ed Parsons said we could? Why is this so difficult to understand? Okay, so there's this legal doctrine called "re

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

Kevin Peat writes: > On 6 November 2012 09:28, Pieren wrote: > > A public domain street sign does not become automagically a > > copyrighted "derivative work" just because you see it through a > > copyrighted photo. And this is true worldwide, not only in some > > countries. > > Isn't the

Re: [OSM-talk] Newish Kid on This Block

Arnie Shore writes: > We have the basics working with Leaflet and locally-stored tile sets; a > JS boolean sends the software to pull tiles from OSM. I'm aware of > concerns re the latter, and we'll certainly honor those. Have you looked at OSMAnd? It's an Android application which uses down

[OSM-talk] Parks & Trails NY is now using OSM

Parks & Trails NY is now using OSM via Leaflet and Mapquest: http://geoserving.net/ctec/ -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog

Re: [OSM-talk] Bad (wrong?) OSM publicity?

Jonathan Bennett writes: > It is not the NYT making that statement, but reporting the fact that > someone else made it. Whatever we think of its accuracy, Mapion's > spokesman did actually say that, so the NYT has made no factual error > that needs correcting. At best we could expect a right to

Re: [OSM-talk] Bad (wrong?) OSM publicity?

woll writes: > The New York Times has not amended the article, so it still contains the > statement that: > > "The biggest problem with Apple’s map...is that much of its data appears to > be drawn from OpenStreetMap, a Wikipedia-like service that contains a lot of > incorrect and outdated in

Re: [OSM-talk] Bad (wrong?) OSM publicity?

woll writes: > The New York Times has not amended the article, so it still contains the > statement that: They've amended it as of 5PM yesterday. It's quite good now, and it quotes you. Rest easy, my friend. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software

Re: [OSM-talk] About attribution to authors

Mike writes: > but there should be some way to give proper attribution to real > persons who contribute to OpenStreetMap. We have a wiki, I think. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/credits is currently empty, but we can certainly put in a mapping from "real person" to OSM username. I won't be

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging the source

Martin Koppenhoefer writes: > yes, but often when something is wrong, the source-tag is as well ;-). > I have seen lots of source=PSG (coastline) where the data obviously > was far too detailed to be from PSG, it is because people hardly > remove those (meanwhile unvalid) source-tags. And I ne

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] Import guidelines proposal update

Pieren writes: > Could you please point out in archives (wiki or mailing list) where > the separate account became generaly agreed ? It's always been generally agreed upon as far as I know. You could look at the wiki and see when the text was first edited to suggest a separate account. I would d

Re: [OSM-talk] horrible job in gjilan,kosovo

Mike Dupont writes: > I am not threatening here at all. Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:12:02 -0500 Mike Dupont writes: > I am going to post this one last time. > You have permission to re license all my work outside of kosovo and albania. > Please stop sending me so many messages, I am getting 10

Re: [OSM-talk] Neocartography

Robert Scott writes: > Sorry list, that was meant to be a private reply. > > /me continues with normal level of incompetence. Not your fault. http://russnelson.com/rt.html -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-6

Re: [OSM-talk] shameless copying: still going on !!

Why are you whinging at us rather than at the appropriate committee of the OSMF? It was their stupid idea in the first place; they should be dealing with the fallout. Please leave us out of it. If, then, a warning about cutting-and-pasting needs to occur, it can come from them. And to make sure th

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines review

Phil! Gold writes: > I can only speak for myself, but I'm happy that TIGER was imported. I > grumble about its quality problems and quirks all the time, usually while > I'm fixing them, but I think the US is much better off with that import > than it would have been without it. Me too. I thin

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines review

Worst Fixer writes: > Hello Frederik, You mean "Hallo". > I see. You mean "Ich see." > I would not expect that. You mean "Ich would nicht expect that." Suddenly, your English becomes better once your trolling becomes successful and people start to oppose you directly. Odd how that happens.

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters

Worst Fixer writes: > > Persuade people to map just one way, THEN once they're doing that, go > > back and get rid of the old way. > > Sane people use type= for relation types. > They use water= tag to express whether it is lake, pond, river or > stream. Not how often it flows. You seem not

Re: [OSM-talk] An indoor airport

Toby Murray writes: > I pointed out this error before the edit was made but apparently > community feedback was not respected before the automated edit was > run... > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2012-May/063021.html Okay, Worst Fixer, you said that you wouldn't make the e

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters

Frederik Ramm writes: > 2. I don't think you should continue to make mass edits under the > username "WorstFixer" because that implies that before you "fixed" > things they were among the "worst" which has the potential to offend people. I always thought it meant that he was the worst person

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters

Worst Fixer writes: > Just removed stream=fixme. Why? > Removed all id-like tags. Why? > If no valid objections will be raised, I upload this change on 2012-06-12. Don't. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315

Re: [OSM-talk] Import of buildings in Chicago

Worst Fixer writes: > I want know why importer uses following tags: > > * chicago:building_id (314 330 objects, used by 2 users). Very likely it's the database number in the source database. This is Yet Another import from a database being maintained by someone else. This is why we need a "cl

Re: [OSM-talk] TTTracklog and TomTom core 9.4

Philip Barnes writes: > Since updating my TomTom Go 720 to Navcore version 9.4 TTTracklog no > longer works and I could really use some new GPS traces for OSM mapping. > > Google doesn't help, beyond confirming I am not the only one. Has anyone > any pointers to getting it working, or to an a

Re: [OSM-talk] handheld gps unit

Philip Barnes writes: > I can imagine it could be annoying if you are stopped in a tunnel and it > switches off and later logs are then lost. It sleeps until you start moving again. Martijn van Exel writes: > I've been eying the Columbuses. Do you know what the difference is between > the V

Re: [OSM-talk] handheld gps unit

kenneth gonsalves writes: > On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 16:52 +1000, Steve Bennett wrote: > > What do you want to use it for? What's your budget? What features do > > you need? Any special requirements? > > an NGO is constructing toilets over an area. They need to map the > locations and state of

Re: [OSM-talk] handheld gps unit

kenneth gonsalves writes: > hi, > > what are recommendations for a handheld reasonably priced gps unit? I still enjoy my Columbus/Visiontac V-900. It's a GPS data logger which records georeferenced audio notes. It's quite compact, and the battery lasts from morning to night (rechargable). --

Re: [OSM-talk] Imagery parallax error in high altitude areas

Nathan Edgars II writes: > It's not as bad as it seems. Imagery is adjusted using an elevation > dataset. Since this data doesn't (and shouldn't) include buildings and > bridges, these appear distorted. You'll also see problems where recent > heavy construction has caused changes in topograp

Re: [OSM-talk] Truth about media hype in Microsoft lending big support and big dollars to OSM ?

Pieren writes: > Where is the truth here ? Is the "big support and big money" the > access of Bing aerial imagery ? Is that all ? Hey, that's enough for me. I LOVES the Bing aerial imagery. Microsoft is welcome to take all the credit for helping us that they want to take. -- --my blog is at

Re: [OSM-talk] No Data overlay on OpenStreetmap.org

Martin Koppenhoefer writes: > Am 2. April 2012 12:48 schrieb andrzej zaborowski : > > +1 for putting it back in the layer switcher. > > > +1 +1. I've told people how to find data in OSM so they can share a reference to it to other people. Currently those instructions are broken. -- --my b

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL-clean Coastlines

David Groom writes: > > But all theories of law aside, as a practical matter, if someone > > hasn't bothered to decline, they're not going to bother to sue. You > > The argument "hey, we understand we don't know if we have any right to use > this data, buts lets leave it in and hope no one

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL-clean Coastlines

Paul Norman writes: > > It's particularly galling that anonymous users who haven't accepted or > > declined are having their copyright respected. If you don't post your > > land *with your name and address* in New York State, you cannot > > successfully pursue a claim of trespass. > > Copyri

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL-clean Coastlines

Stephan Knauss writes: > Users not agreeing or not responding have to be treated the same way, > regardless of their nick known or not. Non-responsive. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 1

Re: [OSM-talk] Database Rebuild scheduled to start on the 27th of March 2012

Simon Poole writes: > http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/We_Are_Changing_The_License#What_Are_The_Choices.3F What if someone refuses to choose? What is the policy there? "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice", and the implications of that choice are not described. >

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL-clean Coastlines

David Groom writes: > more error free. Had I now been a CT decliner I see no legal difference > between the resulting data in this instance and data which "If it was > subsequently edited by a decliner, well, that's different". How would we ever know? They're anonymous. If they want to come f

Re: [OSM-talk] Database Rebuild scheduled to start on the 27th of March 2012

Simon Poole writes: > We've been through this multiple times, but here we go again: Obviously not enough times, because I hadn't heard of this before. I was under the impression that when I said that my edits were in the public domain, everybody believed me. I think other people probably think th

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL-clean Coastlines

Paul Norman writes: > I have been running a nightly coastline generation on my server, using the > latest data from my jxapi server. Tonight I switched it over to filter out > data that WTFE reports as dirty. This is somewhat more aggressive than the > rebuild will be, but the results are worri

Re: [OSM-talk] Database Rebuild scheduled to start on the 27th of March 2012

Frederik Ramm writes: > I don't believe that this schedule will work; it is a schedule that was > basically created backwards: "We want to finish by April 1st, then > what deadlines do we have to make for that to work". I agree with Frederik. The rebuild code contains neither the word "public"

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

Stephan Knauss writes: > ... displaying landuse which we typically import from somewhere. Careful with that "we" Eugene[1]! Some of us typically enter landuse[2] from our knowledge of the use of the land. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Careful_with_That_Axe,_Eugene [2] http://www.openstreetma

Re: [OSM-talk] Wind turbines no longer rendered on mapnik layer

Morten Kjeldgaard writes: > The result is that wind turbines are no longer rendered on the mapnik > layer. That's only because generator:source=wind doesn't cause them to be rendered. It's a separate problem that the person deleted power_source=wind without adding generator:source=wind. -- -

Re: [OSM-talk] Recommendations for cheap "passive GPS trackers" / vehicle mountable GPS loggers?

Jaakko Helleranta.com writes: > There was a thread a while ago on GPS loggers but I'd have a slightly > modified question on the same field: > > Could someone recommend essentially GPS logger solutions that would be > temporarily installed in vehicles for gathering information for preferrab

Re: [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

Chris Hill writes: > I find this lack of respect for people's work, and for copyright law > rather surprising and out-of-keeping with an Open project. Of course we > cannot just take people's work just because they have not replied to an > email or two. You can't defend somebody else's copy

Re: [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

David Earl writes: > It would help to know that email is bouncing. We should put out a press release stating that if anyone values their copyright so little that they have not maintained a working email address, their copyright interest will be transferred to the OSMF (yes, I realize, creator's r

Re: [OSM-talk] Attention, mappers in Halland, Sweden

pec...@gmail.com writes: > There's no big problem to get some locations where OSM lacks comparing > to GM (at least visually as it seems so). I actually care about > overall quality. Not to brag, but between Richard Welty, NE2, and I, we have New York State is pretty darned good shape. The rail

Re: [OSM-talk] Critical Mass for license change-over

Michael Collinson writes: > anon edits 560?467 (may be too high as some previous anon Why are we defending the copyright of people who are unwilling to fill in the question mark in their copyright declaration: "Copyright 200X,?". The U.S. courts won't defend your copyright if you

Re: [OSM-talk] Critical Mass for license change-over

Michael Collinson writes: > The question I ask you is, do you agree that we have reached critical mass? As others have pointed out, we don't know if we've reached critical mass until the units of the mass have been settled upon. Pounds? Stone? Kilograms? > Here is our report. I don't see any i

Re: [OSM-talk] Mixing OSM and FOSM data

Martin Koppenhoefer writes: > In my perception legal-talk is not meant to be a ghetto but it is an > attempt to sort things thematically to keep talk readable I just want to edit, and I want to know that I'm protected from some random deleting my edits just because they don't like somebody who t

Re: [OSM-talk] Mixing OSM and FOSM data

Nathan Edgars II writes: > On 1/15/2012 3:00 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > > Frederik Ramm writes: > > > I am amazed at the constant disregard of legal-talk, a list that was > > > created *precisely* for license questions. > > > > These questio

Re: [OSM-talk] Mixing OSM and FOSM data

Frederik Ramm writes: > I am amazed at the constant disregard of legal-talk, a list that was > created *precisely* for license questions. These questions have nothing to do with the law, and everything to do with how the community edits. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for Romano-British features

Lester Caine writes: > yet there seems to be no way to create secondary databases of > information which can be used in parallel but separately hosted. Yes, we need *more* OpenStreetMaps from which you can fetch different types of information. For example, any data which is externally maintained

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for Romano-British features

mick writes: > On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 23:40:13 -0500 > Russ Nelson wrote: > > > So in this particular context, as long as there is still evidence of > > the Roman road, even if the road no longer exists as a right-of-way, > > it makes sense to add it to OSM. >

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for Romano-British features

Felix Hartmann writes: > The thing is - historic data that doesn't exist anymore is inappropriate > because it is confusing for anyone contributing to OSM. Yes and no. When you have buildings laid out in a rectangular grid, but there are triangular bits cut out of them, that begs for an explana

Re: [OSM-talk] Things People Say (also Piwik)

Michal Migurski writes: > Where's a larger version of Steve's? I seem to remember this from a long > time ago. This page works, with cookies now: http://wifi.jfdi.org I don't have a way to unset the cookie, so once you click save, you've decided. > they have to be built, which means effo

Re: [OSM-talk] Things People Say

> http://mike.teczno.com/img/osm-homepage-sketch.jpg How many of these have we seen? Maybe we need to just make these pages live, and change the default page to simply: We're testing various front pages. Please check them out, and keep visiting the one you like (feel free to bookmark it and

Re: [OSM-talk] Things People Say

Frederik Ramm writes: > For me, the idea of a user friendly map portal (with a nice brand name > and matching apps, with maps, routing, geocoding, aerial imagery, > streetview imagery and all) is not a *bad* idea, and if someone made > such a portal they should certainly be encouraged to use

Re: [OSM-talk] New rules for OSMI license change view

Frederik Ramm writes: > In this case however, there's a sequence of about 20 nodes that was > created by the initial user and even though these may all have been > individually moved and therefore the individual nodes are considered > "clean", the fact that these 20 nodes in this sequence fo

Re: [OSM-talk] New rules for OSMI license change view

Frederik Ramm writes: > * treat untagged nodes as clean if moved by an agreeing mapper > * treat any tags contributed by a non-agreeing mapper as harmless if >these tags are not present any more in the current version > * treat any nodes added to a way by a non-agreeing mapper as harmless

Re: [OSM-talk] Splitting a way may completely hide a taint

Toby Murray writes: > The second easiest is to make use of the odbl=clean tag that the OSM > inspector allows. Assuming of course that this tag will also be > respected in the final process on April 1. In this particular instance, although OSMInspector labels them as tainted, there is nothing l

Re: [OSM-talk] Splitting a way may completely hide a taint

Russ Nelson writes: > Easiest fix is for r_coastlines to accept. Wait a second ... there is no such user. What's going on here? -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 |

Re: [OSM-talk] Splitting a way may completely hide a taint

Nathan Edgars II writes: > On 12/21/2011 8:01 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Sounds like a policy decision to me - you can either be too cautious or > > too careful but probably never do it exactly right. > And we really need to know how the OSMF is treating these common cases > before we start

Re: [OSM-talk] Permission for my work

Mike Dupont writes: > I am going to post this one last time. > You have permission to re license all my work outside of kosovo and albania. > Please stop sending me so many messages, I am getting 10 a day. I have > created a new user that accepted the license terms, but my old user I > will n

Re: [OSM-talk] Harming the community

Serge Wroclawski writes: > It seems every six months or so, a new set of license troll > "discussions" come up. I wasn't trolling. You are. Stop it. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676

Re: [OSM-talk] Transition to CC-4 instead of destroying data

Nathan Edgars II writes: > I've read through many discussions, and the only reasons I've seen for > changing the license ASAP are based on the fear of someone "ripping off" > our work and our being powerless to do anything. That is my understanding as well. I've been against relicensing from

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker gets a UI overhaul

Tobias Knerr writes: > For people who are primarily motivated by applications they can use > today, rather than the potential for future applications, we're just not > that attractive - at least as far as "mainstream" applications are > concerned. OSMAnd. Offline vector maps. Google Maps can't

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] License Change View on OSM Inspector

Nathan Edgars II writes: > I have done many edits of this sort over the years. It has been standard > practice for a long time. Any tainting has already happened. I agee with Nathan. I do this all the time. Mostly it's to GNIS POIs, but the principle remains: some "tainting" of information cann

Re: [OSM-talk] USGS Topo maps

Taru Ani writes: > I am sure this has already been discussed, but I couldn't find definitive > reference to it on the forums: USGS topo maps are in the public domain ( > http://www.usgs.gov/laws/info_policies.html), but must give credit to the > USGS. Does this mean that we can use information

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

Parveen Arora writes: > One more thing about all third party applications is that their tile > rendering is blocked at higher zoom levels that's why i want osm's own > application without using any third party. I understand your desire to have an "official" application. If you'll notice, though

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

Jo writes: > Did you see this presentation from SOTM 2011 in Denver? > > http://fosslc.org/drupal/content/building-efficient-map-apps-using-osm-vector-source-data > > That looks like an awesome application. What I don't understand completely, > if it actually exists as an application, or wh

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS Logger

Sajjad Anwar writes: > I've been trying to find out a basic GPS data logger. A friend used > the Holux m-241 > http://www.holux.com/JCore/en/products/products_content.jsp?pno=341 > Are there any other similar best buy devices that someone here has come > across? I love my Columbus / Visionta

Re: [OSM-talk] Jerusalem name tag - Mediation

Ian writes: > we are here to create map *data* for the world. The slippy map > sitting at openstreetmap.org is a tool to achieve that goal, not > the end goal itself. Here, here! Maybe, towards that end, we should remove the slippy map from the front page, and instead have a list of pointers t

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixme: A proposal

Pieren writes: > This tag is only really acceptable as a temporary personal reminder. I disagree. I've seen FIXMEs on railroads. I treat them as a plea for help from an expert (that would be me). I'll go do the research and fix it. And I leave a FIXME for other editors from time to time, too, an

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming dispute over Jerusalem - OSM failure

Please forgive if I cut Dimka's email down to two sentences. dimka israeli writes: > Three months ago, several people who never before made edits to OSM, claimed > that they cannot identify themselves with the map (and as a result, are not > ready to contribute to it), because the name of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Using photographed evacuation plans for indoor modeling?

Richard Weait writes: > Copyright is earned in a work regardless of the existence of a > copyright symbol on the work. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright That's the Berne Convention at work. Not every country has signed it. And at least in the U.S., you cannot copyright a fact of the

Re: [OSM-talk] How to start to remove non-CT compliant data..

Simon Poole writes: > It is clearly the easier, pragmatic and sensible thing to do to simply > accept the CTs. It is clearly the easier, pragmatic,[1] and sensible thing to simply accept public domain contributions to OSM. We've accepted them in the past (and relicensed under CC-By-SA). What is

Re: [OSM-talk] How to start to remove non-CT compliant data..

Robert Whittaker (OSM) writes: > This ambiguity is presumably at least one of the reasons why LWG don't > feel they're able to accept arbitrary PD declarations. If they can't accept a PD declaration, then they can't accept the CT. If they can't accept "This data is in the public domain", then th

Re: [OSM-talk] How to start to remove non-CT compliant data..

Richard Fairhurst writes: > [follow-ups should be to legal-talk yadda yadda] > > Russ Nelson wrote: > > What about the people who didn't agree to the CT, but whose data is > > in the public domain? > > See > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail

Re: [OSM-talk] How to start to remove non-CT compliant data..

Ian Sergeant writes: > To address your question specifically, what happens to data placed in the > public domain by the author on the wiki, who then specifically declines > the CT? Well in the first case, if the edits are just a trivial > modification to a fully CT-compliant version - I'd s

Re: [OSM-talk] V1 OBJECTS ODBL STATISTICS

Simon Poole writes: > As I previously announced (If you already saw this in talk-de or on > legal-talk, I apologize) , I'm generating some numbers (see > http://odbl.poole.ch) on contributor term acceptance for version one > objects and their creators. > > The numbers are mainly interesti

Re: [OSM-talk] How to start to remove non-CT compliant data..

John Smith writes: > On 31 August 2011 10:19, Ian Sergeant wrote: > > > > I think the strategy to remove all non-CT compliant data in one big bang is > > What about the people that agreed to the CTs that had data compatible > with the current license, cc-by-sa ? What about the people who d

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