Waffle Love: The only reason that I am on Twitter is that I told two kids
in a food truck about OSM. The only way I had to communicate with them was
via Twitter. The grand experiment was to create a node with their
information. Once I paved the way, then the Waffe Love Van's node would be
moved
On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 3:52 AM, Dave F wrote:
> There's an irony in these latest communication channels (loomio?) being
> called 'collaborative'. The more that are used within OSM the more
> fractured the communication becomes.
>
> It wouldn't be so bad if any conclusions were broadcast, but incr
One thing I find annoying about most wikis is that conversation threads are
listed in order of which thread most recently received a reply, not by
subject. In wikis with large numbers of threads, this means having to guess
which search terns to use. Sorting by what message replied to what makes
I think we are talking different things and they are best suited to
different needs.
Personnally I hate being interupted, so Slack or something like it that
waves at me and says look at this pretty picture doesn't work well for me.
Neither does IRC to be honest. It is reasonably complex to set up
> El 2 abr 2016, a las 13:48, Blake Girardot escribió:
>
> It is very easy to log, anyone can do it, there is no secret anything. If you
> have a machine that is always on, like my desktop, you just log in and you
> have the transcript/log of whatever goes on. There are literally 100's of
> p
IRC is open, public and transparent.
It is very easy to log, anyone can do it, there is no secret anything.
If you have a machine that is always on, like my desktop, you just log
in and you have the transcript/log of whatever goes on. There are
literally 100's of people that do that in the #O
On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 11:52:36 +0100,
Dave F wrote:
> IRC, due to its exclusiveness does nothing to promote a "community"
> which many wish to attain.
Mainly due to IRC I met several high profile quality mappers and have a
chat with them now and then which I never would have on any other
medium.
On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:23:29 +0100,
Dave F wrote:
> > Do really want to read the full log of a chat room?
> If there were a record, many IRC discussions wouldn't occur.
Is that so?
Despite OSM forum, wiki and help there are a lot of people who ask
questions which are already answered.
It doesn
You want to ban meetups and irl friendships too?
/Andreas
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> 2 apr. 2016 kl. 12:52 skrev Dave F :
>
> There's an irony in these latest communication channels (loomio?) being
> called 'collaborative'. The more that are used within OSM the more fractured
> the communicati
There's an irony in these latest communication channels (loomio?) being
called 'collaborative'. The more that are used within OSM the more
fractured the communication becomes.
It wouldn't be so bad if any conclusions were broadcast, but
increasingly they're not.
IRC, due to its exclusiveness
You're wrong, plain and simple... Your conspiracy theory is silly and makes no
sense.
/Andreas
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> 2 apr. 2016 kl. 01:21 skrev Dave F :
>
>
>> On 30/03/2016 22:20, Ian Sergeant wrote:
>>
>> I've never seen it as a hotbed of uncountered policymaking.
>
> This is another
On 30/03/2016 22:20, Ian Sergeant wrote:
I've never seen it as a hotbed of uncountered policymaking.
This is another case which confirms my point: As there's no record,
unless you're on it 24/7, you'll have no idea what it's being used for,
or when.
On a couple of occasions I've been tol
On 29 March 2016 21:20:01 GMT+01:00, Tom Hughes wrote:
>On the flip side who is included by IRC that is excluded by Slack?
One big downside with slack-like mediums is the need to sign up and setup.
Compared to irc where you can join in no questions asked, even anonymously if
you wish, Slack h
On 30 Mar 2016 10:24 pm, "Dave F" wrote:
> If there were a record, many IRC discussions wouldn't occur. It's often
used by the weak/arrogant who are too scared/self-important to have their
opinions verified & countered.
This is a bit harsh.
In my experience it's used by people wanting a bit of
Martijn,
I think your approach on this issue is spot on.
I personally think that when a project like OSM supports non-Free software,
especially ones run by external entities, it sends absolutely the wrong
message. Worse still is if we force users to use these gatekeepers to
interface with our com
Hi Michael
On 29/03/2016 21:58, Michael Reichert wrote:
Hi Dave,
Am 29.03.2016 um 22:45 schrieb Dave F:
Because IRC works in real time. Contributors have to be in the same time
zone (or stay up really late/ get up really early). It's biased towards
densely populated zones ie Northern Europe or
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:59:02 -0700,
Ben Discoe wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Michael Reichert
> wrote:
> >> I find this a really worthwhile conversation to have. IRC is still
> >> great for some but it’s hardly inclusive.
> >
> > Is http://irc.openstreetmap.org/ no web interface?
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Dave F wrote:
>
> On 29/03/2016 21:20, Tom Hughes wrote:
>
>> On 29/03/16 20:52, Martijn van Exel wrote:
>>
>> I find this a really worthwhile conversation to have. IRC is still great
>>> for some but it’s hardly inclusive.
>>>
>>
>> In what way is it not inclusiv
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Michael Reichert wrote:
>> I find this a really worthwhile conversation to have. IRC is still great for
>> some but it’s hardly inclusive.
>
> Is http://irc.openstreetmap.org/ no web interface?
I have tried (every year for the past ~20 years) to get IRC to work.
Hi Dave,
Am 29.03.2016 um 22:45 schrieb Dave F:
> Because IRC works in real time. Contributors have to be in the same time
> zone (or stay up really late/ get up really early). It's biased towards
> densely populated zones ie Northern Europe or East coast if North America.
You will face this prob
On 29/03/2016 21:20, Tom Hughes wrote:
On 29/03/16 20:52, Martijn van Exel wrote:
I find this a really worthwhile conversation to have. IRC is still great
for some but it’s hardly inclusive.
In what way is it not inclusive?
Because IRC works in real time. Contributors have to be in the sam
On 29/03/16 20:52, Martijn van Exel wrote:
I find this a really worthwhile conversation to have. IRC is still great
for some but it’s hardly inclusive.
In what way is it not inclusive?
Who does it exclude that is included by Slack?
On the flip side who is included by IRC that is excluded by
Hi Martijn,
Am 29.03.2016 um 21:52 schrieb Martijn van Exel:
> I find this a really worthwhile conversation to have. IRC is still great for
> some but it’s hardly inclusive.
Is http://irc.openstreetmap.org/ no web interface? I might lack some
advertisment (and maybe an modern styling). If you ju
I find this a really worthwhile conversation to have. IRC is still great for
some but it’s hardly inclusive. I like Slack and started using it early on. We
set up an OSM US Slack, initially just for the board to coordinate, but we
extended it to be open for all soon. They even give us free stuff
Hi,
On 03/29/2016 07:33 PM, Luis Villa wrote:
> +1 to this. OSM should be seeking to broaden the base of potential
> mappers, and that means making sure that gateways to the community are
> user-friendly - which these days includes good UX/onboarding experience
> and mobile apps. Slack is a clear
I have set up a Slack bot using some software[1] that relays messages
between a slack channel and an IRC channel. It is listening in #osm on
OFTC and the #irc slack channel in Steve's team.
I love my irssi+screen IRC setup however it kind of breaks down when
it comes to a phone-friendly interface.
Slack offers an irc gateway if you'd prefer to connect to slack from your
irc client. Just sign up for the slack team and look in the "integrations"
section for information about how to connect your irc client.
On Mar 29, 2016 11:33 AM, "Toby Murray" wrote:
> I have set up a Slack bot using some
Hi Steve and list members,
OSM US already set up a Slack that has a few dozen people on it. Originally
the board used it solely for internal communications but now there are
plenty of folks hanging out talking about OSM in general (not just OSM US).
One particular nicety of our Slack team is that
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