Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-23 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christoph Böhme wrote: Elena of Valhalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:39 PM, Christoph Böhme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Marking of farm tracks which have generally have no names was never

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-23 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Dave Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since then the map has been expanded to cover everywhere (thanks to CloudMade), which is useful because the tracing problem exists in many other places. But it's also completely irrelevant in some areas. And frankly, if

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-22 Thread Lester Caine
Rory McCann wrote: Hi, What to do about a road that doesn't have a name comes up on the list frequently. There's a few options suggested. I've created a new proposed feature for this listing the available options (noname=yes, name:absent=yes, missing_tags=name, etc etc)

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Lester Caine wrote: Am I missing something here, or is the editing interface now CREATING a new problem? If something does not have a name why would you ADD a name=xx tag. No name tag = no name. I doubt that every trackway has a name so why ADD thousands of noname=yes when simply not

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-22 Thread Lester Caine
Frederik Ramm wrote: Lester Caine wrote: Am I missing something here, or is the editing interface now CREATING a new problem? If something does not have a name why would you ADD a name=xx tag. No name tag = no name. I doubt that every trackway has a name so why ADD thousands of noname=yes

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Lester Caine wrote: My comment still applies - if a item REALLY has no name then you do not ADD something - you leave out the name= tag? I refuse to repeat all that has been said. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-22 Thread Lester Caine
Elena of Valhalla wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] There was a suggestion for name=__NONAME__ but that is also wrong - what is needed is a SIMPLE name=__TODO__ where there is an item that we know HAS a name but we do not know what it is?

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-22 Thread Ed Loach
Christoph wrote: So far I followed the whole noname discussion quietly, but I am getting the feeling that nobody is advocating what I think is the only clean solution of the problem: Frederik's ignore_test suggestion. With the Mapnik layer this morning highlighting residential-without-name

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-22 Thread Ed Loach
I wrote: With the Mapnik layer this morning highlighting residential-without-name (orange edges), not-in-map_features (yellow edges), and a big red circle around nodes-on-same-spot (based on stuff I spotted just in the Wolverhampton area), the ignore_test suggestion begins to look like

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-22 Thread sergio sevillano
Lester Caine escribió: Rory McCann wrote: Hi, What to do about a road that doesn't have a name comes up on the list frequently. There's a few options suggested. I've created a new proposed feature for this listing the available options (noname=yes, name:absent=yes, missing_tags=name,

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-22 Thread Christoph Böhme
Gervase Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Christoph Böhme wrote: The other solutions made so far essentially suggest to add a negative image of the world to the database: Not only saying what is there but also what is not. Consequently this would mean to tag streets not only with the

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-22 Thread Christoph Böhme
Stefan Hirschmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: In case of routing, I think it is a big difference if you know, that the road has definitely no adress. The absense of the name is such a strange thing, that it should be mentioned. But what would you do differently in a routing application in

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-22 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:39 PM, Christoph Böhme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Marking of farm tracks which have generally have no names was never planned, I think. Just roads that usually should have a name like residential streets and for which this fact is tested. such farm tracks are

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-22 Thread Christoph Böhme
Elena of Valhalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:39 PM, Christoph Böhme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Marking of farm tracks which have generally have no names was never planned, I think. Just roads that usually should have a name like residential streets and for

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-22 Thread Lester Caine
Christoph Böhme wrote: Elena of Valhalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:39 PM, Christoph Böhme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Marking of farm tracks which have generally have no names was never planned, I think. Just roads that usually should have a name like

[OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-21 Thread Rory McCann
Hi, What to do about a road that doesn't have a name comes up on the list frequently. There's a few options suggested. I've created a new proposed feature for this listing the available options (noname=yes, name:absent=yes, missing_tags=name, etc etc)

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-21 Thread Christoph Böhme
Hi, thanks for putting this proposal together, Rory! So far I followed the whole noname discussion quietly, but I am getting the feeling that nobody is advocating what I think is the only clean solution of the problem: Frederik's ignore_test suggestion. The other solutions made so far

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-21 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Christoph Böhme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, thanks for putting this proposal together, Rory! So far I followed the whole noname discussion quietly, but I am getting the feeling that nobody is advocating what I think is the only clean solution of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

2008-09-21 Thread Gervase Markham
Christoph Böhme wrote: The other solutions made so far essentially suggest to add a negative image of the world to the database: Not only saying what is there but also what is not. Consequently this would mean to tag streets not only with the features they have but also with oneway:absent=yes,