Is this the sort of thing you had in mind
(http://maps3.org.uk/tiles/historic_layers.html)?
That looks great, thanks for sharing!
Joseph
On 15 January 2012 22:44, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote:
This requires a renderer / display set up that allows the use to select
what
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
For something like this, where there is very limited overlap between past
and present, it makes sense to use a separate database. But in cases where
most of the features still exist, such as railways or Roman roads,
2012/1/16 John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
Agreed.
As long as the tagging used is such that things that no longer exist
are not normally rendered (and only show as thin outlines on standard
editors) I think including
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:28 AM, John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com wrote:
As long as the tagging used is such that things that no longer exist
are not normally rendered (and only show as thin outlines on standard
editors) I think including historic data shouldn't be a problem.
Compared with the
John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com
wrote:
For something like this, where there is very limited overlap between
past
and present, it makes sense to use a separate database. But in cases
where
most of the features still
Chillly o...@raggedred.net wrote:
John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com
wrote:
For something like this, where there is very limited overlap
between
past
and present, it makes sense to use a separate database. But
John F. Eldredge wrote:
It would make sense to have a separate render, and also to have a way to toggle
visibility of historical data in the editor. It would be useful if the state
of that toggle was saved, on a per-user basis, from one editing session to the
next.
A separate render is not
2012/1/16 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com:
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:28 AM, John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps those with an interest in historic mapping can do some initial
tests on the dev database? That would allow them to try something
right now and to refine the approach
Mick,
On 15 January 2012 00:54, mick bare...@tpg.com.au wrote:
One example of my long-term goals (I'll leave them to my Grandchildren ;)
) is to be able to take say an layer containing prehistoric monumental and
settlement features and look at the extent to which the Romans developments
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2012/1/14 Russ Nelsonnel...@crynwr.com:
Lester Caine writes:
yet there seems to be no way to create secondary databases of
information which can be used in parallel but separately hosted.
Yes, we need *more* OpenStreetMaps from which you can fetch different
This requires a renderer / display set up that allows the use to select
what features you want and filter out those you don't.
The rendrering engine will require significant enhancement to support
selectable layers unless I have missed something.
Hi Mick,
Is this the sort of thing you
mick writes:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 23:40:13 -0500
Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
So in this particular context, as long as there is still evidence of
the Roman road, even if the road no longer exists as a right-of-way,
it makes sense to add it to OSM.
Much Of what I am
mick wrote:
My goal was to create a 'Bastard Son of OSM' as a means to share my work with
those people of similar interest but, as OSM has no ability to offer user
selected layers I'm looking at other options.
To my mind this needs to be pushed up to a higher level of activity.
There are lots
Hi Mick,
On 14 January 2012 05:28, mick bare...@tpg.com.au wrote:
My goal was to create a 'Bastard Son of OSM' as a means to share my work
with those people of similar interest but, as OSM has no ability to offer
user selected layers I'm looking at other options.
Please let us know which
Lester Caine writes:
yet there seems to be no way to create secondary databases of
information which can be used in parallel but separately hosted.
Yes, we need *more* OpenStreetMaps from which you can fetch different
types of information. For example, any data which is externally
maintained
Russ Nelson wrote:
Lester Caine writes:
yet there seems to be no way to create secondary databases of
information which can be used in parallel but separately hosted.
Yes, we need*more* OpenStreetMaps from which you can fetch different
types of information. For example, any data which
2012/1/14 Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com:
Lester Caine writes:
yet there seems to be no way to create secondary databases of
information which can be used in parallel but separately hosted.
Yes, we need *more* OpenStreetMaps from which you can fetch different
types of information. For
On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:43:27 +
Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Mick,
On 14 January 2012 05:28, mick bare...@tpg.com.au wrote:
My goal was to create a 'Bastard Son of OSM' as a means to share my work
with those people of similar interest but, as OSM has no ability
Felix Hartmann writes:
The thing is - historic data that doesn't exist anymore is inappropriate
because it is confusing for anyone contributing to OSM.
Yes and no. When you have buildings laid out in a rectangular grid,
but there are triangular bits cut out of them, that begs for an
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 23:40:13 -0500
Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
Felix Hartmann writes:
The thing is - historic data that doesn't exist anymore is inappropriate
because it is confusing for anyone contributing to OSM.
Yes and no. When you have buildings laid out in a rectangular
On 03.01.2012 11:36, Lester Caine wrote:
Pieren wrote:
If someone does this in my area, I'll revert the deletion as vandalism.
Funny. I also consider adding non-existing stuff as vandalism. I
hope we will never contribute on the same areas...
This is the current reason *I* have been unable
Felix Hartmann wrote:
If someone does this in my area, I'll revert the deletion as vandalism.
Funny. I also consider adding non-existing stuff as vandalism. I
hope we will never contribute on the same areas...
This is the current reason *I* have been unable to contribute to OSM in the
last
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
This is the area that we still need to get some agreement on :(
Current rendering does not take any notice of start and stop dates ...
These tags have been created for periodic events, not for stuffs that
disappeared. To be
Pieren wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Lester Caineles...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
This is the area that we still need to get some agreement on:(
Current rendering does not take any notice of start and stop dates ...
These tags have been created for periodic events, not for stuffs that
On 1/3/2012 4:25 AM, Pieren wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Lester Caineles...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
This is the area that we still need to get some agreement on :(
Current rendering does not take any notice of start and stop dates ...
These tags have been created for periodic events,
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Nathan Edgars II
If someone does this in my area, I'll revert the deletion as vandalism.
Funny. I also consider adding non-existing stuff as vandalism. I
hope we will never contribute on the same areas...
Pieren
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On 1/3/2012 5:04 AM, Pieren wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Nathan Edgars II
If someone does this in my area, I'll revert the deletion as vandalism.
Funny. I also consider adding non-existing stuff as vandalism. I
hope we will never contribute on the same areas...
Live and let
Pieren wrote:
If someone does this in my area, I'll revert the deletion as vandalism.
Funny. I also consider adding non-existing stuff as vandalism. I
hope we will never contribute on the same areas...
This is the current reason *I* have been unable to contribute to OSM in the last
few
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
So don't remove legitimate data (which includes
historic features) in the name of reverting vandalism, or you too will
eventually get burned.
Then many, many people will be burned. It's happening daily in OSM
when
On 1/3/2012 7:08 AM, Pieren wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote:
So don't remove legitimate data (which includes
historic features) in the name of reverting vandalism, or you too will
eventually get burned.
Then many, many people will be burned.
On 1/3/12 7:00 AM, talk-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote:
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Hi,
On 01/03/2012 08:10 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
HISTORY
of changes is already being logged ... so the information IS already in
the database ... it is how we access it that is the only technical
question.
Careful here. These are two totally different axes. We record the edit
history - when
Frederik Ramm wrote:
HISTORY
of changes is already being logged ... so the information IS already in
the database ... it is how we access it that is the only technical
question.
Careful here. These are two totally different axes. We record the edit history -
when something was added, changed,
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 19:10:25 +
Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Vladimir Vyskocil wrote:
I agree 100% with you, the main OSM database couldn't be used for
everything, it has been designed to map the existing world (one road after
one) not the whole history !
There would be
On 2 January 2012 09:49, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote:
**
I've been using historic=roman_road but will be switching to
historic=road, culture=roman as per an excellent tagging schema proposed by
Francesco de Virgilio at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11/prove2 , as
the main thing that is missing from it is a list of 'cultures' or
'civilizations' that we can all use.
In the UK at least there's a defined and well used list of periods
provided by the Archaeology Data Service:
http://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/Imagebank/period.jsf
In short, is something
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:02:59 +
Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote:
I must have had a blond moment when I tried searching for start_date
as I got no results there.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:start_date
The idea would be to include start_date and end_date keys to
On 2 January 2012 11:58, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote:
the main thing that is missing from it is a list of 'cultures' or
'civilizations' that we can all use.
In the UK at least there's a defined and well used list of periods
provided by the Archaeology Data Service:
Graham Jones wrote:
I agree - the historic:civilization
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:historic:civilization page has
recommendations for different regions, so we would just need to add a suitable
UK (or British Isles?), scheme to it. My concern was more about using
'culture' rather
On 2 January 2012 15:47, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Historic mapping wiki page has yet to be created, but start_date and
end_date would seem to replace the need for Key:historic:period if accurate
data is available.
I think the issue is availability of accurate data - I am pretty
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 15:47:15 +
Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
The only question that still has not been addressed is one that covers a lot
of
parallel data. SHOULD it be uploaded to the main database, or should we have
a
working method for linking secondary databases into the
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
What is difficult to separate is where an object IS still on the ground but
now has a different designation.
Or still there but not visible (e.g. underground).
Pieren
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talk
Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 January 2012 15:47, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Historic mapping wiki page has yet to be created, but start_date and
end_date would seem to replace the need for Key:historic:period if
accurate
data is available.
I think the
John F. Eldredge wrote:
As far as rendering is concerned, it would be useful to be able to set starting
and ending dates for a given renderiing, so that eventually you compare a
series of maps and see patterns of changes. In some cases, you might want to
show only the time period of
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