Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-29 Thread Janko Mihelić
Your question is the same as if someone asked why isn't there an official Linux; not Ubuntu, not Mint, not Debian, but simply official Linux distribution. Open source and open data don't work that way. A healthy ecosystem with lots of apps is the goal. Janko

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-29 Thread Parveen Arora
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: Your question is the same as if someone asked why isn't there an official Linux; not Ubuntu, not Mint, not Debian, but simply official Linux distribution. No doubt this is a good approach, but the moment when you will ask

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-29 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 17:00 +0530, Parveen Arora wrote: But someone on this thread told me that OSM is a loose community so I wondered why its like that, Can't we come as a strong community or organisation. not possible given the size of the community and the wildly varying viewpoints of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-29 Thread Parveen Arora
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 5:08 PM, kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: not possible given the size of the community and the wildly varying viewpoints of the members. Remember OSM has a very low threshold for membership - and the lower the threshold, the looser the community. Then

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-29 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 29.11.2011 12:30, schrieb Parveen Arora: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Janko Mihelićjan...@gmail.com wrote: Your question is the same as if someone asked why isn't there an official Linux; not Ubuntu, not Mint, not Debian, but simply official Linux distribution. No doubt this is a good

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-29 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 17:26 +0530, Parveen Arora wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 5:08 PM, kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: not possible given the size of the community and the wildly varying viewpoints of the members. Remember OSM has a very low threshold for membership - and

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-29 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 29/11/2011 12:30, Parveen Arora wrote: the moment when you will ask some one to recommend any of one among all there will be lot of different opinions, and there are approximately 500 distros of Linux available which I think is not required and is wastage of resources, time and energy. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-29 Thread yvecai
On 29. 11. 11 13:01, kenneth gonsalves wrote: we can live with it - according to me it is a good situation as this is how open source works. (and works well). You can ask the actual devs from all these already existing apps to let their baby to contribute to an official one, or simply bet on

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-29 Thread Parveen Arora
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: A nice one would not simply give you one specific distribution, because you want to use Linux. Instead there would be some questions: what do you want to do with it? use it as a windows replacement for office

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-29 Thread Parveen Arora
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:01 AM, yvecai yve...@gmail.com wrote: You can ask the actual devs from all these already existing apps to let their baby to contribute to an official one, or simply bet on the best horse and collaborate to make it the de-facto standard. Yes, this can be the one of

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-28 Thread Nick Whitelegg
It worked well.  It planned a route to the bus terminal in Seoul, which generally matched the route the bus actually took (naturally, I had no influence over the route the driver took).  The moving map is quite mesmerising and all drawn from OSM vector data in real time. Incidentally do any of

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-28 Thread Parveen Arora
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: I understand your desire to have an official application. If you'll notice, though, there is no official OSM editor. Instead, there's Potlatch for in-browser editing Ohh, Yes there are different tools combined together to

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-28 Thread Etienne Trimaille
I tried Navit a few weeks ago, and I keep using it. Offline vector maps, no internet access needed, the search engine isn't bad, ...Thanks to the xml file navit.xml, we can customize the app (ui, vehicle with no toll, stylesheets for maps, ...). It's free and opensource. However, the ui is not

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-28 Thread Parveen Arora
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: Navit is available for Android, and it's probably very easy for you to try it out.  It's still 'under development', so not as slick as you might expect, but it does work. Yes I have installed Navit, but

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-28 Thread yvecai
On 28. 11. 11 09:18, Nick Whitelegg wrote: It worked well. It planned a route to the bus terminal in Seoul, which generally matched the route the bus actually took (naturally, I had no influence over the route the driver took). The moving map is quite mesmerising and all drawn from OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-28 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Parveen Arora m...@parveenarora.in wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: I understand your desire to have an official application. If you'll notice, though, there is no official OSM editor. Instead, there's Potlatch for

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-28 Thread Parveen Arora
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure how you propose that OSM write an application. First of all, would it be a map display/use app or a map data editing app? It should be just a map display with basic features(not all in one) which should only

[OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread Parveen Arora
Hi all, Please let me know some good application to use vector data of osm on android phone becase tiles needs a lot of bandwidth to access the maps easily. I have tried many applications but not found any satisfactory applocation till now. All the applications availble are third party

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread Matthias Meißer
Hi Parveen, no there is no offical App as OSM is just a loose community, there exist a lot of Apps there are somewhat related to OSM and open source or at least free to use: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Android bye Matthias (user:!i!) Am 27.11.2011 09:24, schrieb Parveen Arora: Hi

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread Parveen Arora
On 27 Nov 2011 14:04, Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de wrote: Hi Parveen, no there is no offical App as OSM is just a loose community, Is it really? I think there are number of developers so I wonder how it is a loose application. there exist a lot of Apps there are some what related to OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 16:21 +0530, Parveen Arora wrote: Hi Parveen, no there is no offical App as OSM is just a loose community, Is it really? I think there are number of developers so I wonder how it is a loose application. loose community -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread Parveen Arora
On 27 Nov 2011 16:21, Parveen Arora m...@parveenarora.in wrote: I think there are number of developers so I wonder how it is a loose application. Sorry for typo in above line. s/application/community -- Parveen Arora From my phone. ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread David Paleino
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:54:14 +0530, Parveen Arora wrote: Please let me know some good application to use vector data of osm on android phone becase tiles needs a lot of bandwidth to access the maps easily. I have tried many applications but not found any satisfactory applocation till now.

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread Yves
Actually it is worth to notice that Osmand is free and open-source. Osmand+ is the ' donation' version, and night ly build is also available for free from google-code. Digging a little, you'll also find ski map and contour lines for Osmand :) Yves -- Envoyé de mon téléphone Android avec K-9

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread Matthias Meißer
Am 27.11.2011 11:51, schrieb Parveen Arora: On 27 Nov 2011 14:04, Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de mailto:dig...@arcor.de wrote: Hi Parveen, no there is no offical App as OSM is just a loose community, Is it really? I think there are number of developers so I wonder how it is a loose

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread David Paleino
(no need to CC me, thanks :)) On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 12:17:25 +0100, Yves wrote: Actually it is worth to notice that Osmand is free and open-source. Yup, forgot that, it's important to me too :) Osmand+ is the ' donation' version, and night ly build is also available for free from google-code.

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread Parveen Arora
On 27 Nov 2011 16:34, David Paleino da...@debian.org wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:54:14 +0530, Parveen Arora wrote: Please let me know some good application to use vector data of osm on android phone becase tiles needs a lot of bandwidth to access the maps easily. I have tried many

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread David Paleino
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 16:54:43 +0530, Parveen Arora wrote: Yes i am also using this OSMand and almost all the applications mentioned on the wiki page of osm for android. Only osmand+ is having the facility to use vector data not the free version of it and I have also not found any other freely

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread Parveen Arora
-- Parveen Arora From my phone. On 27 Nov 2011 17:08, David Paleino da...@debian.org wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 16:54:43 +0530, Parveen Arora wrote: Yes i am also using this OSMand and almost all the applications mentioned on the wiki page of osm for android. Only osmand+ is having the

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 09:24, Parveen Arora m...@parveenarora.in wrote: Hi all, Please let me know some good application to use vector data of osm on android phone becase tiles needs a lot of bandwidth to access the maps Just a question how does Kothic-JS work on Android. It takes about

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread Parveen Arora
On 27 Nov 2011 17:08, David Paleino da...@debian.org wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 16:54:43 +0530, Parveen Arora wrote: Yes i am also using this OSMand and almost all the applications mentioned on the wiki page of osm for android. Only osmand+ is having the facility to use vector data not

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread Jo
Did you see this presentation from SOTM 2011 in Denver? http://fosslc.org/drupal/content/building-efficient-map-apps-using-osm-vector-source-data That looks like an awesome application. What I don't understand completely, if it actually exists as an application, or whether it's simply a basis

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread John F. Eldredge
Parveen Arora m...@parveenarora.in wrote: Hi all, Please let me know some good application to use vector data of osm on android phone becase tiles needs a lot of bandwidth to access the maps easily. I have tried many applications but not found any satisfactory applocation till now.

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread Russ Nelson
Jo writes: Did you see this presentation from SOTM 2011 in Denver? http://fosslc.org/drupal/content/building-efficient-map-apps-using-osm-vector-source-data That looks like an awesome application. What I don't understand completely, if it actually exists as an application, or whether

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread yvecai
On 27. 11. 11 22:20, John F. Eldredge wrote: Parveen Aroram...@parveenarora.in wrote: Hi all, Please let me know some good application to use vector data of osm on android phone becase tiles needs a lot of bandwidth to access the maps easily. I have tried many applications but not found any

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread Russ Nelson
Parveen Arora writes: One more thing about all third party applications is that their tile rendering is blocked at higher zoom levels that's why i want osm's own application without using any third party. I understand your desire to have an official application. If you'll notice, though,

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread Mike N
On 11/27/2011 4:30 PM, yvecai wrote: Unless you are talking about a very small area, say just a kilometer or so across, I don 't think you are likely to get good results trying to render maps directly on the phone. Phones are rather limited in memory and CPU speed compared to even a low-end

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread Andrew Errington
This weekend I took a bus trip to Seoul. I installed Navit and gpsd on my netbook, plugged in a USB gps receiver, and downloaded OSM data for all Korea using Navit's download tool. It worked well. It planned a route to the bus terminal in Seoul, which generally matched the route the bus

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector maps for Android

2011-11-27 Thread John F. Eldredge
Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 11/27/2011 4:30 PM, yvecai wrote: Unless you are talking about a very small area, say just a kilometer or so across, I don 't think you are likely to get good results trying to render maps directly on the phone. Phones are rather limited in memory and