On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Anthony wrote:
>
> Another possible solution would be if we could mark ways as obsolete or
> historical rather than deleting them. But I checked the wiki and apparently
> this was proposed and rejected. And I kind of see the argument against it.
> I don't know.
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:52 AM, John Smith wrote:
> 2009/9/9 Anthony :
>
> > If the way lines up with the GPS trace, the GPS trace was used as the
> source
> > of data. If it doesn't, it wasn't (or it has been changed).
> >
> > Am I missing some reason that's not correct?
>
> You're assuming only
Shaun McDonald wrote:
> I'm not going to waste my time updating a source tag on every
> node, way or relation that I touch.
For ways, in Potlatch, just press B (short for "Background tag") and it'll
add the source tag corresponding to the currently selected background;
source=Yahoo, source=NPE,
2009/9/9 Anthony :
> If the way lines up with the GPS trace, the GPS trace was used as the source
> of data. If it doesn't, it wasn't (or it has been changed).
>
> Am I missing some reason that's not correct?
You're assuming only one type of source was used to generate a way,
when multiple sourc
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:04 PM, John Smith wrote:
> 2009/9/9 Anthony :
> > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:26 PM, John Smith
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> it would be nice to tag things like GPS model, not just that it was
> >> from a GPS, some models are better than others and so on and so forth.
> >
> > In wh
2009/9/9 Anthony :
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:26 PM, John Smith
> wrote:
>>
>> it would be nice to tag things like GPS model, not just that it was
>> from a GPS, some models are better than others and so on and so forth.
>
> In which case you ought to just upload the GPS data, right? GPX supports
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Valent
Turkovic wrote:
>
> Do you use source tag? Why and how, please explain? I read the wiki page
> but I don't see many people use it and I'm wondering why.
Whenever I add a tag, e.g. TAG (could be name, or amenity for example)
to a node/way/relation, I also tag
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:26 PM, John Smith wrote:
>
> it would be nice to tag things like GPS model, not just that it was
> from a GPS, some models are better than others and so on and so forth.
In which case you ought to just upload the GPS data, right? GPX supports
identifying the GPS model as
2009/9/9 d f :
> Yes I would. In Potlatch if I press G or click the GPS icon it display all
> uploaded traces.
It's a hypothetical and the GPS traces were not uploaded so you
wouldn't be able to download anything.
> I don't. But I take the average of all the traces available. i thought this
> is
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Valent
Turkovic wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:43:22 +0200, Lennard wrote:
>
>> why you'd say it doesn't support source=*. You're not always, every
>> time, relying only on built in presets, are you?
>
> Presets speedup many things, so it would be nice to have also
From: Donald Allwright
To: d f
Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Tuesday, 8 September, 2009 16:25:41
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] source=(survey, yahoo, gps...)
>If there are 10 traces by GPS for a way & I think it's out of alignment from
>the
>You don't have access to the 10 traces,
Yes I would. In Potlatch if I press G or click the GPS icon it display all
uploaded traces.
I should have said assuming
none uploads the information how do you know your information is any
better than what already
2009/9/9 Mike N. :
> There are some odd cases where even GPS averaging is not accurate enough to
> 'micro adjust' a way by 1-3 meters. One of which is where the sensor is
> inside a vehicle (not rooftop mounted) on some curves. I observe this by
> comparing multiple traces from multiple units
fact that they do not
converge on a very good aerial image - even though the entry and exit traces
match very well.
From: d f
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:08 AM
Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] source=(survey, yahoo, gps...)
> ...without the right information being
2009/9/9 d f :
>
>
>> ...without the right information being presented to later users.
>
> Not sure what you men by that. However...
>
> If there are 10 traces by GPS for a way & I think it's out of alignment from
> the average of them, then I would move it.
> Irrelevant of what the source tag for
>If there are 10 traces by GPS for a way & I think it's out of alignment from
>the average of them, then I would move it.
>Irrelevant of what the source tag for the way.
Please don't do this unless you have clear evidence it's wrong, you could well
be messing up perfectly accurate data.
What
> ...without the right information being presented to later users.
Not sure what you men by that. However...
If there are 10 traces by GPS for a way & I think it's out of alignment from
the average of them, then I would move it.
Irrelevant of what the source tag for the way.
Cheers
Dave F.
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From: John Smith
To: Valent Turkovic
Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Tuesday, 8 September, 2009 11:42:24
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] source=(survey, yahoo, gps...)
2009/9/8 Valent Turkovic :
> Hi,
> I can see that Potlach support source tag but JOSM doesn't.
>
> You can see th
2009/9/9 d f :
> John
>
> Surely if a way needs shifting, it needs shifting, irrelevant of what the
> source was?
Is you GPS more accurate than mine?
If you answer yes to the above how do you know this?
If 10 people do a GPS trace of the same way, the way could move 10
times without the right in
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/newbies/2007-October/000625.htmlmay
be of interest - if it isn't in the wiki.
just discovered this myself now too.
k.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Lennard wrote:
> Valent Turkovic wrote:
>
> > Presets speedup many things, so it would be nice to have a
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 12:22:48PM +, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:06:28 +1000, Liz wrote:
>
> > It's actually quite easy in JOSM
> > you mass select them and add the tag
>
> I know it is possible, but I would love if JOSM would offer options like
> Potlach does.
Its easy
Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Presets speedup many things, so it would be nice to have also presets for
> source= tag.
Then create your own presets for your desired source=* tags.
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:06:28 +1000, Liz wrote:
> It's actually quite easy in JOSM
> you mass select them and add the tag
I know it is possible, but I would love if JOSM would offer options like
Potlach does.
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Liz wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Shaun McDonald wrote:
>> I'm not going to waste my time updating a source tag on every node,
>> way or relation that I touch. However I'm happy to add ti to the
>> changeset where it belongs.
>
> It's actually quite easy in JOSM
> you mass select them and add t
On 08/09/2009 13:06, Liz wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Shaun McDonald wrote:
>> I'm not going to waste my time updating a source tag on every node,
>> way or relation that I touch. However I'm happy to add ti to the
>> changeset where it belongs.
>
> It's actually quite easy in JOSM
> you mass
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Shaun McDonald wrote:
> I'm not going to waste my time updating a source tag on every node,
> way or relation that I touch. However I'm happy to add ti to the
> changeset where it belongs.
It's actually quite easy in JOSM
you mass select them and add the tag
_
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:43:22 +0200, Lennard wrote:
> why you'd say it doesn't support source=*. You're not always, every
> time, relying only on built in presets, are you?
Presets speedup many things, so it would be nice to have also presets for
source= tag.
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On 8 Sep 2009, at 12:21, Someoneelse wrote:
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:
El Martes, 8 de Septiembre de 2009, John Smith escribió:
2009/9/8 Iván Sánchez Ortega :
It would be very nice to have JOSM add a source tag to the
changeset if a
WMS layer has been used during editing, though. Would make
At 11:40 08/09/2009, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>Do you use source tag? Why and how, please explain? I read the wiki page
>but I don't see many people use it and I'm wondering why.
I try to put it on everything I map. It shows fellow mappers how
accurate my contribution is. They can make a more intel
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:
> El Martes, 8 de Septiembre de 2009, John Smith escribió:
>> 2009/9/8 Iván Sánchez Ortega :
>>> It would be very nice to have JOSM add a source tag to the changeset if a
>>> WMS layer has been used during editing, though. Would make my life a lot
>>> easier and not forge
2009/9/8 Iván Sánchez Ortega :
> And, for example, I may draw a street using Y!, but somebody may modify just
> the name of the street during a mapping party. No need to delete the
> source=yahoo of the previous changeset.
which is why you use source:name=*
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El Martes, 8 de Septiembre de 2009, John Smith escribió:
> 2009/9/8 John Smith :
> > 2009/9/8 Iván Sánchez Ortega :
> >> It would be very nice to have JOSM add a source tag to the changeset if
> >> a WMS layer has been used during editing, though. Would make my life a
> >> lot easier and not forget
2009/9/8 John Smith :
> 2009/9/8 Iván Sánchez Ortega :
>
>> It would be very nice to have JOSM add a source tag to the changeset if a WMS
>> layer has been used during editing, though. Would make my life a lot easier
>> and not forget about those source=yahoo tags.
>
> What if they use GPX files an
El Martes, 8 de Septiembre de 2009, John Smith escribió:
> 2009/9/8 Iván Sánchez Ortega :
> > It would be very nice to have JOSM add a source tag to the changeset if a
> > WMS layer has been used during editing, though. Would make my life a lot
> > easier and not forget about those source=yahoo tag
2009/9/8 Iván Sánchez Ortega :
> It would be very nice to have JOSM add a source tag to the changeset if a WMS
> layer has been used during editing, though. Would make my life a lot easier
> and not forget about those source=yahoo tags.
What if they use GPX files and a WMS layer?
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El Martes, 8 de Septiembre de 2009, Valent Turkovic escribió:
> Do you use source tag? Why and how, please explain? I read the wiki page
> but I don't see many people use it and I'm wondering why.
JOSM dev version being able to tag changeset + source tag = win.
It would be very nice to have JOSM
Valent Turkovic wrote:
> I can see that Potlach support source tag but JOSM doesn't.
> Do you use source tag? Why and how, please explain? I read the wiki page
> but I don't see many people use it and I'm wondering why.
JOSM supports addition of any tag, provided you can type, so I don't see
wh
2009/9/8 Valent Turkovic :
> Hi,
> I can see that Potlach support source tag but JOSM doesn't.
>
> You can see the example here:
> http://bayimg.com/image/dadjnaacm.jpg
>
>
> Do you use source tag? Why and how, please explain? I read the wiki page
> but I don't see many people use it and I'm wonder
Hi,
I can see that Potlach support source tag but JOSM doesn't.
You can see the example here:
http://bayimg.com/image/dadjnaacm.jpg
Do you use source tag? Why and how, please explain? I read the wiki page
but I don't see many people use it and I'm wondering why.
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