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Mike Harris
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From: Robert Vollmert [mailto:rvollmert-li...@gmx.net]
Sent: 20 February 2009 11:25
To: Ed Loach
Cc: osm Openstreetmap
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?
On Feb 20, 2009, at 11:14, Ed Loach wrote:
> In the wiki,
On Feb 20, 2009, at 11:14, Ed Loach wrote:
> In the wiki, Relation:route[1] suggests network of uk_ldp for the UK
> long distance path network, but Walking_Routes[2] suggests
> iwn/nwn/rwn/lwn for network types. It looks like the uk_ldp goes
> back over a year to October 2007, so there are probabl
> I suspect 2009 will see the emergence of proper OSM
> walking/hiking maps so
> its time we got our act together.
>
> Please pull the page apart and add new stuff. Ideally try to
> keep content
> and ideas in the same sort of format as the Cycle Route ones so
> that we have
> some synergy and we
I don't think that the Pennine Bridleway is complete yet (they haven't
decided where the northern part of the route will go). Where I have
seen it signposted (from Derbyshire up towards Lancs) it seems to go in
the same direction is the Pennine Way but runs on mostly separate
bridleways. Thes
Frankie Roberto wrote:
> There also seems to be the Pennine Cycleway
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennine_Cycleway), which I've
> never seen signposted.
It's Sustrans National Route 68, the whole of which (well, except for two
alternative braids) is lovingly mapped on OSM, from Derby to
Berwi
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) <
ajrli...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> A relation should quite happily hold all of the bits and pieces for the
> Pennine Bridleway, it wouldn't really be doing its intended job if it
> didn't.
I've already done most of the Pennine W
Am 19.01.2009 14:17, Mike Harris:
> I have made some edits on your page as a starter for 10 - but feel that I
> should have probably put comments somewhere else. Could you advise me on
> protocol and procedure as I would be more than happy to contribute to this
> discussion.
Don't hesitate, just d
tended job if it
didn't.
Cheers
Andy
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>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wik
If it would help to tie the Cleveland Way relation together I can offer
a series of 300m-separated waypoints in OSGB format for the section
between Helmsley (actually from the spur at the bottom of White Horse
Bank) and Guisborough. No tracklog though - it is from an old GPS with
no data cable
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>Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?
>
>The UK-only page seems to have no text. Why don't we join the two pages
>into
>one and use Andy's new one, which does have some text on it and is more
>interna
19 January 2009 10:44
To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?
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> boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Andy Robinson (
I would be more than happy to contribute to this
discussion.
Thanks!
Mike Harris
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From: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [mailto:ajrli...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 19 January 2009 10:26
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?
I
Gregory Williams [mailto:gregory.willi...@purplegeodesoftware.co.uk] wrote:
>Sent: 19 January 2009 10:44 AM
>To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); talk@openstreetmap.org
>Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?
>
>> -Original Message-
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> Subject: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some w
I started a stub http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Walking_Routes based
upon the Cycle Routes page. I hope this doesn't duplicate anything but I
could not find a landing page on the wiki to cover long distance walking and
hiking routes generally.
Needs work to pull stuff together and the UK long
Hello everyone,
Have added experimental, prototype functionality to Freemap to allow users
to create walking routes by selecting multiple OSM ways.
If you go to
http://www.free-map.org.uk/freemap/index.php?lat=51.05&lon=-0.72&zoom=14
try clicking on footpaths with CTRL held down, and you'll be
Ben Laenen wrote:
> What about routes that don't follow roads? I've been on walking routes
> that send you straight through a grass field, or through a lot of trees
> with no visible path, just marks on the trees.
>
> Greetings
> Ben
>
>
highway = footway?
Igor
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On Jun 27, 2008, at 16:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>> a) Get the user to click each way in turn on the slippy map. Each
>>> way
>>> then
>>> gets highlighted (possible via OpenLayers Vector layer). When
>>> finished,
>>> user clicks "Done" and can add any further comments. This should be
On Friday 27 June 2008, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> a) Get the user to click each way in turn on the slippy map. Each way
> then gets highlighted (possible via OpenLayers Vector layer). When
> finished, user clicks "Done" and can add any further comments. This
> should be fairly easy to implement - and
At 03:57 PM 6/27/2008, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
>Hello everyone,
>
>Richard's comments the other day have got me strongly interested in
>implementing tightly-bound (to OSM ways) walking routes in Freemap. There
>are a couple of UI ways in which this could be implemented:
>
>a) Get the user to click ea
>> a) Get the user to click each way in turn on the slippy map. Each way
>> then
>> gets highlighted (possible via OpenLayers Vector layer). When finished,
>> user clicks "Done" and can add any further comments. This should be
>> fairly
>> easy to implement - and some of the code (detecting the cl
Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> Richard's comments the other day have got me strongly interested in
> implementing tightly-bound (to OSM ways) walking routes in Freemap. There
> are a couple of UI ways in which this could be implemented:
This would be a great thing to have. However it doesn't have to be
Hello everyone,
Richard's comments the other day have got me strongly interested in
implementing tightly-bound (to OSM ways) walking routes in Freemap. There
are a couple of UI ways in which this could be implemented:
a) Get the user to click each way in turn on the slippy map. Each way then
g
Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> This looks like a cool idea. One thing that's kind of been on my mind for
> some time is a custom walkers' application which makes use of OSM data -
> there are many proprietary/shareware apps designed for walkers (route
> planning, 3D terrain preview etc) which use propr
I have used the route tag which I think is approved.
route=Lanchester Valley Way
route=Battle of Neville's Cross
I saw some signs, I guess they are walking routes. They may be interesting
but I wouldn't say the best route to get to the end. How about
route_quality= (very muddy, maintained path, pav
On Jan 22, 2008, at 13:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Nick Whitelegg wrote:
>>>
>>> TBH I would be fairly dubious about tagging any non-waymarked
>>> walks/cycle rides as routes, let alone ones of my own devising. This
>>> is "interpretation" which should be kept out of the largely
>>> factual
> Robert Vollmert wrote:
> But for that purpose, people can use gps-tour.info, right? OSM would
> be interesting by allowing to present recommended walks, etc. as a
> sequence of OSM ways. But this data probably would better go into a
> separate database.
>
> I'm sure there's an opportunity f
On Jan 22, 2008, at 13:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Nick Whitelegg wrote:
>>
>> TBH I would be fairly dubious about tagging any non-waymarked
>> walks/cycle rides as routes, let alone ones of my own devising. This
>> is "interpretation" which should be kept out of the largely
>> factual OSM.
> Nick Whitelegg wrote:
>
> TBH I would be fairly dubious about tagging any non-waymarked
> walks/cycle rides as routes, let alone ones of my own devising. This
> is "interpretation" which should be kept out of the largely factual OSM.
The data might not fit into the OSM but its still useful.
On Jan 21, 2008 10:33 AM, Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think it's the latter, the same as for cycling "routes" being the
> meta, rather than the physical ("cycleway"). I've thought about this
> before but I never followed it through. I really think that they
> cycling stuff works well,
>In many countries footpaths are numbered (but a trip to the local library
is
>normally needed in the UK to get hold of them for public footpaths) so I
can
>see that following a method similar to the cycle network should work well
>but might be a little more difficult to visualise in the UK and p
Andy Allan wrote:
>Sent: 21 January 2008 10:34 AM
>To: Nick Whitelegg
>Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] walking routes?
>
>On Jan 21, 2008 10:19 AM, Nick Whitelegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> >Also walking routes? This would be good news.
On Jan 21, 2008 2:34 PM, Nick Whitelegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I mentally divide things into "objective" and "subjective", and stick
> >to the objective stuff for now. So if the walking routes are
> >signposted, that would be fine for me, but if they were just a route
> >that I knew, then
>I don't know what our end-game is with subjective stuff (e.g. rating
>pubs), maybe in the future it'll end up in OSM or a sister project.
Freemap perhaps if not OSM itself?
Nick
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>I mentally divide things into "objective" and "subjective", and stick
>to the objective stuff for now. So if the walking routes are
>signposted, that would be fine for me, but if they were just a route
>that I knew, then I'd leave it off.
Maybe we should make up our own walks, in places where it'
On Jan 21, 2008 12:33 PM, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nick Whitelegg wrote:
>
> > Talking of walking routes in a more general sense , i.e. not official long
> > distance paths but a favourite route/circuit e.g. the Old Dungeon
> > Ghyll-Pike o'Blisco-Crinkle Crags-Band-Old Dungeo
Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> Talking of walking routes in a more general sense , i.e. not official long
> distance paths but a favourite route/circuit e.g. the Old Dungeon
> Ghyll-Pike o'Blisco-Crinkle Crags-Band-Old Dungeon Ghyll route in the Lake
> District (excellent last day of last year's mapping
>I think it's the latter, the same as for cycling "routes" being the
>meta, rather than the physical ("cycleway"). I've thought about this
>before but I never followed it through. I really think that they
>cycling stuff works well, and it could easily be replicated into
>walking by using the idea o
Andy Allan wrote:
> On Jan 21, 2008 10:19 AM, Nick Whitelegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> Also walking routes? This would be good news. I started with
>>> walking (hiking) route around Nuremberg. What are the
>>> recommended relation tags for walking routes?
>>>
>> Do you mean walk
On Jan 21, 2008 10:19 AM, Nick Whitelegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Also walking routes? This would be good news. I started with
> >walking (hiking) route around Nuremberg. What are the
> >recommended relation tags for walking routes?
>
> Do you mean walking routes as in paths, or walking rou
>Also walking routes? This would be good news. I started with
>walking (hiking) route around Nuremberg. What are the
>recommended relation tags for walking routes?
Do you mean walking routes as in paths, or walking routes as in a specific
route you follow for a day's walk? The former would be
On Monday 21 Jan 2008 07:42, Karl Eichwalder wrote:
> > The same questions apply to cycle and walking routes, but they are
> > rendered already on Andy's map. I'll see what happens when two/three
> > routes use the same ways there.
>
> Also walking routes? This would be good news. I started with
Karl Eichwalder wrote:
>> The same questions apply to cycle and walking routes, but they are
>> rendered already on Andy's map. I'll see what happens when two/three
>> routes use the same ways there.
>>
>
> Also walking routes? This would be good news. I started with
> walking (hiking) route
> The same questions apply to cycle and walking routes, but they are
> rendered already on Andy's map. I'll see what happens when two/three
> routes use the same ways there.
Also walking routes? This would be good news. I started with
walking (hiking) route around Nuremberg. What are the
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