Re: [OSM-talk] Foursquare and OSM Note Instructions

2014-03-28 Thread Toby Murray
I would say that missing data is a form of error in OSM and I have used notes to indicate such things before. The only problem with adding things based only on notes is that we don't know the source or accuracy of the information, especially from anonymous notes. We get a lot of notes from

Re: [OSM-talk] Foursquare and OSM Note Instructions

2014-03-28 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi, IMHO missing stuff is some kind of error and it might be correct to store that information in a note. But it's more complex than just add a note and we'll do the rest. Adding a note even as a personal note for adding it later is a valid action, if e.g. don't have the time to do more now or

Re: [OSM-talk] Foursquare and OSM Note Instructions

2014-03-28 Thread Steve Doerr
If you create a new note at openstreetmap.org, you get a prompt that begins: 'Spotted a mistake or something missing?' So I think your understanding of what is a valid note is at fault. -- Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Foursquare and OSM Note Instructions

2014-03-28 Thread JB
Err, some thoughts after some heavy note-closing in France. Le 28/03/2014 09:14, Peter Wendorff a écrit : Adding a note even as a personal note for adding it later is a valid action, if e.g. don't have the time to do more now or don't have an editor at hand - provided I'm going to resolve that

Re: [OSM-talk] Foursquare and OSM Note Instructions

2014-03-28 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
Perhaps it is because English is not my native language but I understand a Note to be a comment, whether about missing data or wrong data or in fact, as I've sometimes done, a note about imagery missing for a future imagery refresh. I mapped my hometown last summer and one part of it was

Re: [OSM-talk] Foursquare and OSM Note Instructions

2014-03-28 Thread SomeoneElse
JB wrote: Dos and don'ts section does not validate this in the wiki : « Don't use it to put your personal notes here. ». Rather use personal stuff like gpx files or whatever. Many personal notes just get forgotten (where is this filtering tool showing /my/ notes? Ha, doesn't exist, I

Re: [OSM-talk] Foursquare and OSM Note Instructions

2014-03-28 Thread JB
Didn't know that. Is it documented somewhere? Not on the wiki about the api (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6#Map_Notes_API). Good to know, anyway, but still unusable for the basic contributor (even I would not use it easily). JB. Le 28/03/2014 10:25, SomeoneElse a écrit : JB

Re: [OSM-talk] Foursquare and OSM Note Instructions

2014-03-28 Thread SomeoneElse
JB wrote: Didn't know that. Is it documented somewhere? Not on the wiki about the api (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6#Map_Notes_API). Good to know, anyway, but still unusable for the basic contributor (even I would not use it easily). JB. Sorry - my fault - it's not. I had to

Re: [OSM-talk] Foursquare and OSM Note Instructions

2014-03-28 Thread Peter Wendorff
Well, it's not errors only, but notes of course. My argument goes into: it might be useful to add a note *about* an error, too. It's best to fix errors immediately, of course; but it's better to document them for later to fix than to do nothing and forget about it. Therefore notes are like an

Re: [OSM-talk] Foursquare and OSM Note Instructions

2014-03-28 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2014-03-28 08:32, JB wrote: Err, some thoughts after some heavy note-closing in France. Le 28/03/2014 09:14, Peter Wendorff a écrit : Adding a note even as a personal note for adding it later is a valid action, if e.g. don't have the time to do more now or don't have an editor at hand -

Re: [OSM-talk] Foursquare and OSM Note Instructions

2014-03-28 Thread JB
Ok, as long as it can be understood by anybody. It is not always the case. As for the page on your profile, have you ever tried to use it after contributing to more than 20 notes? 50 notes? 1000 notes? Very rapidly unusable. JB. Le 28/03/2014 12:59, Craig Wallace a écrit : On 2014-03-28

Re: [OSM-talk] Foursquare and OSM Note Instructions

2014-03-27 Thread Alex Barth
Hey Jason - I'm not sure I follow as Foursquare's page says: If you just want something small fixed but don't have the time to sign up and edit, it's easy to add a note. Which seems to be in line with how you're using notes (reporting errors). What am I missing? On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:50

Re: [OSM-talk] Foursquare and OSM Note Instructions

2014-03-27 Thread Jason Ward
Hi Alex, Good question and I have since figured out how to access notes I have touched/resolved to demonstrate my point. My treatment of notes is probably the problem. :) I see this note [1] as being a legitimate use case for them in that there used to be a roundabout there and not the

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-07 Thread Simon Poole
There will probably be a heads up immediately before work on the DB starts. If you are concerned about the effects of the change, it would be best to simply stop consuming the diffs at that point in time and reimport the planet after the changeover, when you feel that is appropriate (note: that

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-07 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: If this actually happens, it will be by far the stupidest thing OSM has ever done. But maybe I'm misunderstanding the meaning of that phrase about

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-07 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steve Bennett wrote: I can't speak for other countries, but in my city (Melbourne, population 4 million, second biggest in Australia), parts of the largest freeway, right near the centre of town, are currently on the chopping board. That's a lot worse than any other everyday missing roads,

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-07 Thread Joseph Reeves
An interesting article on the value (or issues) of FourSquare generated spatial data: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/06/spatial_junk/ Joseph On 5 March 2012 11:22, Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com wrote: In their blog they made some cryptic comments about helping OSM with data... No

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-07 Thread Steve Bennett
Replying to a few messages at once here: Toby Murray: On the other hand, this license change has been ongoing since before I joined the project and drawing it out even longer is going to be painful too... IMHO, the pain is over and done with. The decision is made, and the decliners have, by

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-07 Thread yvecai
Le 07/03/2012 22:38, Steve Bennett a écrit : Simon Poole: There is one issue currently and that is that we have no way of reaching out to data consumers and keeping them informed I was surprised that I couldn't find anything much about the April 1 cutover on osmfoundation.org. Certainly no

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-06 Thread Steve Bennett
So at the risk of pointing out the obvious: aren't we about to start purging data from decliners? Last I heard, we're begin[ning] the process of database re-building and hope to complete by 2012-04-01. Are we about to start inflicting maps with big holes, missing roads etc on these big sites that

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-06 Thread Joseph Reeves
Or will the intermediary service provided by MapBox etc somehow protect them? MapQuest is updated minutely? So changes to the database are going to be felt by FourSquare, Nestoria, et al pretty immediately. This is pretty off topic, of course... Presumably the good folks behind the license

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-06 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: Presumably the good folks behind the license change will say that any short-term damage to OSM caused by removing data is outweighed by the benefits of a new license; the ODbL even, possibly, makes data exchange with

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-06 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: If this actually happens, it will be by far the stupidest thing OSM has ever done. But maybe I'm misunderstanding the meaning of that phrase about database rebuilding? Since I'm getting some off-list snark about this, let

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-06 Thread sabas88
2012/3/7 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: If this actually happens, it will be by far the stupidest thing OSM has ever done. But maybe I'm misunderstanding the meaning of that phrase about database rebuilding?

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-06 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 07.03.2012 05:23, Steve Bennett wrote: 3) I'm questioning deleting large amounts of data from our map on the self-imposed deadline of April 1 Would it be even more clever for map tile providers like mapquest so simply stop updates for a week (or probably serve static tiles as of march 31)

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-05 Thread Janko Mihelić
Would it be possible for Foursquare to let us use the information users type in (restaurant names, addresses)? There is a lot of good information there. Janko ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-05 Thread Frans Thamura
mmm i want to know deeply about POI inside 4SQ and OSM, will 4SQ share with OSM database for POI? F On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: Would it be possible for Foursquare to let us use the information users type in (restaurant names, addresses)? There is a

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-05 Thread Thomas Davie
In their blog they made some cryptic comments about helping OSM with data... No idea what they actually meant though, could just be helping direct users to OSM, could be employing people to map stuff... who knows. Bob if (*ra4 != 0xffc78948) { return false; } On 5 Mar 2012, at 11:17, Joseph

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-05 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 5:22 AM, Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com wrote: In their blog they made some cryptic comments about helping OSM with data... No idea what they actually meant though, could just be helping direct users to OSM, could be employing people to map stuff... who knows. They

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-02 Thread Toby Murray
Frousquare is not using any OSM API. They are just using map tiles provided by MapBox with the leaflet library to display it in the browser. Toby On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all we have great news that foursquare using OSM now anyone working

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-02 Thread Frans Thamura
does this mean that OSM API is not usefull for integration? F On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Frousquare is not using any OSM API. They are just using map tiles provided by MapBox with the leaflet library to display it in the browser. Toby On

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-02 Thread Tom MacWright
The OSM API(s) are certainly useful for integration, but a different kind - if they were pulling small chunks of data, etc., then they'd be using an API, but at this point they're mainly using tiles. More to come, but at this point the process looks like OSM Planet + update chunks - TileMill

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-02 Thread Frans Thamura
i wish OSM can provide like what GMAP API can :0 rather using this model. API wrapper to TILE will be interesting F On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org wrote: The OSM API(s) are certainly useful for integration, but a different kind - if they were pulling small

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-02 Thread Chris Hill
On 02/03/12 22:07, Frans Thamura wrote: i wish OSM can provide like what GMAP API can :0 rather using this model. API wrapper to TILE will be interesting I think you are confusing what Google call their API with what OSM call our API. They are not the same thing. What Google call their API

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-02 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 2 March 2012 23:00, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: does this mean that OSM API is not usefull for integration? What Toby says is they don't need to use the API. They source the tiles from mapbox, who in turn use the OSM planet files or diffs as their interface to OSM. And they use

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-02 Thread Frans Thamura
hehe, i see my self was brainwashed by API jargon :0 F On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 5:51 AM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.comwrote: On 2 March 2012 23:00, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: does this mean that OSM API is not usefull for integration? What Toby says is they don't need to