Re: [OSM-talk] Microsoft Buildings vs. OpenStreetMap visualization

2019-08-02 Thread AntiCompositeNumber
In my area, it also appears that the detection rate is fairly good. In my brief look through I found one building where there is no building and a few buildings that the AI did not find. The rotation issue was fairly common as well as a general offset from the imagery (This may be on the Mapbox

Re: [Talk-it] Comuni sparsi - label non visibili

2019-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 2. Aug 2019, at 19:18, Fintocubano wrote: > > I comuni (definizione ISTAT) di Fagnano Alto, Lucoli e Ocre sono composti di > frazioni sparse che hanno nomi diversi ed alcune di esse sono capoluoghi del > comune stesso, per esempio Vallecupa per Fagnano Alto. Il problema

Re: [OSM-talk] Microsoft Buildings vs. OpenStreetMap visualization

2019-08-02 Thread Jmapb
On 8/2/2019 7:24 AM, Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski wrote: Here's a demo by azavea showing how 125 Million AI-mapped buildings relate to 33 Million buildings currently in OpenStreetMap in the same region. https://demos.azavea.com/building-footprint-comparison/#4.4/38.67/-93.93 Thanks, this is

Re: [OSM-talk] Sharing, Facebook, mapwithai_feedback

2019-08-02 Thread stevea
Re-threading from the rather messy previous one. Mike: Thank you for telling us of the #mapwithai_feedback Slack channel, truly. It is true that some of us choose not to use Slack. I ask Facebook to meet the OSM community about these issues "on our turf" by participating here. That would

Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it nice to share?  | Re: Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaborati =?utf-8?q?on_with_OpenStreetMap

2019-08-02 Thread Michal Migurski
Hi, The OSM US Slack has a dedicated channel called #mapwithai_feedback where members of the FB team are generally available to answer questions: https://app.slack.com/client/T029HV94T/CK3BZ8FC0 -mike.

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] August meetup

2019-08-02 Thread Rob Nickerson
I have a feeling that we talked about changing August to a Saturday, but then time has slipped past and August is now on top of us. What do you think - should we look for a rescheduled Saturday meeting? *Rob* On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 at 16:51, Eike Ritter via Talk-gb-westmidlands <

Re: [Talk-at] Waymarked Trails gebrochen?

2019-08-02 Thread Robert Grübler
Tatsächlich - das hilft. Manches mal, leider nicht immer. LG Robert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Carl von Einem [mailto:c...@einem.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 2. August 2019 22:30 An: OpenStreetMap AT Cc: Betreff: Re: [Talk-at] Waymarked Trails gebrochen? Hatte heute vormittag auch

Re: [Talk-at] Waymarked Trails gebrochen?

2019-08-02 Thread Carl von Einem
Hatte heute vormittag auch mal Schwierigkeiten blöde Fehlermeldung, aber nach stärkerem reinzoomen kamen plötzlich die benötigten Relationen. Grüße, Carl Am 02.08.2019 um 21:40 schrieb Robert Grübler : > Hallo Leute, > bei mir funktioniert Waymarked Trails >

Re: [Talk-es] Cómo mapear una plaza de toros

2019-08-02 Thread dcapillae
Si en unos días nadie más tiene algo que añadir, cambio «building=stadium» por «building=bullring» y me olvido del tema. [1] [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Espa%C3%B1a/C%C3%B3mo_mapear_un#Plaza_de_toros -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Spain-f5409873.html

Re: [Talk-transit] Long bus routes

2019-08-02 Thread Tijmen Stam
On 02-08-19 15:35, Janko Mihelić wrote: A user in Europe started adding long bus lines some time ago. These routes are crossing several countries and mostly drive along motorways. Here is a piece of motorway between Berlin and Dresden: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/313980637 it has two

Re: [Talk-es] Cómo mapear una plaza de toros

2019-08-02 Thread dcapillae
Buenas tardes. No me importa que se mencionen conversaciones que se mantienen en otros canales. Pero si se mencionan, que se mencionen correctamente, sin faltar a la verdad. Ya había respondido a la misma pregunta allí, y no acepto que se me acuse de proponer una única opción cuando es

[Talk-at] Waymarked Trails gebrochen?

2019-08-02 Thread Robert Grübler
Hallo Leute, bei mir funktioniert Waymarked Trails (https://cycling.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=13!47.0578!15.3974 ) nicht mehr. Beispiel Karte von Graz: • Klick auf R23-Symbol: „Keine Einzelheiten für dieses Objekt gefunden“ • Klick auf R52-Symbol: „Fehler beim Verbinden zum Server“ • Klick auf

Re: [Talk-se] openstreetmap download issues

2019-08-02 Thread Grigory Rechistov via Talk-se
Hi Ivana, A recommended way to get bigger regions of the map is the following. - Download a data extract covering the country/region you are interested in as an OSM.BZ2 file. You can get it here, for example for Sweden [1]. - Use osmconvert [2] to clip a desired region from the export file. For

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing question

2019-08-02 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 02 August 2019, Tom Lee via legal-talk wrote: > [...] If you > replace "pixels" with "triangles", the exact same thing can be said > of the 3D objects being rendered here for use by the Flight Gear > simulator. And if you replace 'pixel' with node the exact same thing can be said about

Re: [Talk-es] Cómo mapear una plaza de toros

2019-08-02 Thread Lanxana .
Buenas tardes, ciertamente al final quien se va a abstener de participar en los debates o intentar mediar en discusiones voy a ser yo... y perdonar esta primera parrafada de pataleta. Esta mañana, Daniel, has escrito refiriéndote que otro usuario te ha dicho que no iba a respetar tu criterio,

[Talk-se] openstreetmap download issues

2019-08-02 Thread Ivana Tasic
To whom it may concern, I am a recent OSM user and am having trouble downloading an OSM file due to its size. The selected region is exactly as follows: With the URL: https://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/map?bbox=11.76,57.63,12.14,57.74 I was wondering if I can get any help from you in order

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing question

2019-08-02 Thread Tom Lee via legal-talk
> if the way you use the data is more in a database-like fashion or more in the form of a finished product ready for human consumption This raises more questions, doesn't it? I think everyone agrees that a map contained by a PNG file is a produced work. But such a file is merely a collection of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing question

2019-08-02 Thread Christoph Hormann
To avoid you drawing the wrong conclusions based on the (rather abstract) explanations made by others - based on a quick look at the documentation on http://wiki.flightgear.org/Osm2city.py https://osm2city.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ that tool seems mainly a geometry data conversion program for

[Talk-it] Comuni sparsi - label non visibili

2019-08-02 Thread Fintocubano
Vorrei sottoporvi un problema di map rendering che ho notato su alcuni nomi di comuni sparsi in Abruzzo. I comuni (definizione ISTAT) di Fagnano Alto, Lucoli e Ocre sono composti di frazioni sparse che hanno nomi diversi ed alcune di esse sono capoluoghi del comune stesso, per esempio Vallecupa

Re: [Talk-GB] TfL cycle data published

2019-08-02 Thread Martin - CycleStreets
I've sent a follow-up e-mail to the OSMF Licensing Working Group, which compiles all the various statements from Transport for London, and includes various e-mails where these statements were originally made, so that the LWG will hopefully be able to give a clear judgement now. In

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing question

2019-08-02 Thread Kathleen Lu via legal-talk
Agreed, my opinion is that generally a scenery generating program should be considered a produced work. It's possible the program reads from a derived database, depending on whether map features were added, but that *database* could be made available under ODbL. The program being GPL shouldn't

Re: [Talk-es] Cómo mapear una plaza de toros

2019-08-02 Thread dcapillae
Resuelvo otra duda que planteaba Jordi. Una plaza en desuso se puede mapear como cualquier otra característica en desuso, haciendo uso de los prefijos de ciclo vital [1]: disused:leisure=stadium Para el edificio, lo mismo: disused:building=stadium O si se prefiere:

Re: [Talk-es] Cómo mapear una plaza de toros

2019-08-02 Thread dcapillae
Hola, Jordi. Gracias por tu comentario. Fíjate lo que comentaba yo en un mensaje anterior: dapillae wrote > Dudo de si el par de etiquetas «leisure=stadium» y «sport=bullfighting» es > suficiente para identificar una plaza de toros en cuanto tal. Un > «stadium=bull_ring» (o «bullring»), sin

Re: [Talk-transit] Long bus routes

2019-08-02 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
Fundamentally this isn't that different from long-distance train services. In practice, at least in Germany, Flixbus is one of very few bus operators that have 1) daily/weekly schedules and 2) tickets they sell to anyone (rather than a charter service). However I am aware elsewhere this might not

[Talk-transit] Long bus routes

2019-08-02 Thread Janko Mihelić
A user in Europe started adding long bus lines some time ago. These routes are crossing several countries and mostly drive along motorways. Here is a piece of motorway between Berlin and Dresden: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/313980637 it has two road routes, and 13 Flixbus bus routes. I

Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

2019-08-02 Thread scratera
...non voletemene ma non ho ancora capito come comportarsi a riguardo della domanda dellla discussione ...anche se condivido appieno quanto scritto da Francesco Francesco Pelullo wrote > Il ven 26 lug 2019, 08:28 Andrea Albani > aobani@ > ha scritto: > >> >> >> >> Ok... Cosa proponi di

Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

2019-08-02 Thread Andrea Musuruane
Ciao, On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 3:08 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > On 31. Jul 2019, at 14:04, Andrea Musuruane wrote: > > Martin, mi puoi dare la tua definizione di indirizzo? > > > > cito la wikipedia italiana, mi sembra abbastanza giusto: > > L'*indirizzo* è la

[OSM-talk] erm... imports still go on | Re: Isn't it nice to share?  | Re: Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-08-02 Thread Rory McCann
There have been, and continue to be, data imports, automated editing,and AI type things (like this Facebook). Yes some are unhappy about this, but it does _happen_. Facebook fights you in court for a copy of your own personal data, which is a fundamental right. They're bound to hold on to

Re: [Talk-dk] Nogen aktive i Vallekilde?

2019-08-02 Thread Jørgen Elgaard Larsen
Højskolevej har været i OSM siden marts 2011: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/103230784 Jeg ved ikke, hvorfor din navigator ikke kan finde den. Det må være en fejl i din navigator. Flere programmer har problemer med danske adresser, fordi de ikke bruger postnumre/byer fra adressenoder,

[Talk-dk] Nogen aktive i Vallekilde?

2019-08-02 Thread John Plate
Hej Jeg var for nyligt i Vallekilde, men min navigator kendte ikke "Højskolevej", som ellers har vejskilt osv. Det må være en fejl. Nogen, som kan klare sagen? Mvh John ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-es] Cómo mapear una plaza de toros

2019-08-02 Thread dcapillae
Buenos días. A mí me interesaba únicamente tener un etiquetado común para las plazas de toros. Yo no he propuesto un nuevo etiquetado en Telegram. Eso es falso, como otras cosas que se han dicho aquí. Escribí en primer lugar a esta lista, como corresponde cuando se quiere debatir cuestiones que

Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it nice to share?  | Re: Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaborati =?utf-8?q?on_with_OpenStreetMap

2019-08-02 Thread Nuno Caldeira
Good luck with trying to dialogue with them (can you get any of their emails?). I tried asking simple stuff like complying with license, OSM principles and OSMF guidelines. they stopped replying and keep being acting in a disrespectful way towards our community and OSMF objects. This behavior does

Re: [Talk-es] Cómo mapear una plaza de toros

2019-08-02 Thread yo paseopor
Creo que debo responder este mensaje ya que , por lo que se ve, soy el causante de ese debate. Y digo debate porque tengo la sensación de que a la que se expone una realidad contraria pero palmaria la gente puede sentirse ofendida de una manera que no es objetivo de ningún grupo de OSM, pasando a

Re: [Talk-es] Cómo mapear una plaza de toros

2019-08-02 Thread Jordi MF
Hola, Se agradece intentar homogeneizar las plazas de toros. La verdad es que son un caos... Las diferentes propuestas de etiquetado que ha hecho dcapillae son un buen punto de partida. Por mi parte, necesitaría tener claro que significa la etiqueta "sport=*". Si se usa para indicar que un

Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it nice to share?  | Re: Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaborati =?utf-8?q?on_with_OpenStreetMap

2019-08-02 Thread Valor Naram
The time is now to get into dialogues with Facebook's RaID team instead of discussing further what Facebook did/does wrong, how they can improve their AI, how they can improve their communication with the community and what their intentions are.Discussing with Facebook's RaID team is better and

Re: [Talk-es] Cómo mapear una plaza de toros

2019-08-02 Thread dcapillae
Buenos días. Para los que no siguen el debate en otro canal, diré que ya he explicado que el etiquetado no es excluyente. Por supuesto que una plaza de toros se puede usar para otra cosa. Si se usa como teatro, se etiqueta como teatro. Si se usa como museo, como museo. Se se usa como atracción

Re: [Talk-it] Foce waterway

2019-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 2. Aug 2019, at 09:03, solitone wrote: > > In effetti, l’ultimo nodo, dove il fiume sfocia in mare, non è collegato a > nulla. Va bene così o devo aggiungere qualcosa? va connesso alla coastline Ciao Martin ___ Talk-it

Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it nice to share?  | Re: Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-08-02 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Facebook probably shouldn't import all of their POIs directly into OSM. I understand that this could cause problems. But they could make available all sorts of useful data, including a separate overlay or service that allowed us to see where facebook POIs are located, and manually import them

Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it nice to share?  | Re: Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-08-02 Thread Marc Gemis
This "self appointed police of OSM" will probably question - how did those companies receive the data, under which copyright? - how did they geocode the POIs, using Google's geocoder ? (a big no-no) - how up-to-date is this data ? Will you reimport POIs that have been rightfully removed in OSM ?

Re: [Talk-es] Cómo mapear una plaza de toros

2019-08-02 Thread Lanxana .
Buenos días, para los que no han seguido el debate en otro canal, se planteó qué ocurre con las plazas de toros que han dejado de tener su función a nivel de tauromaquía, ya sea porque se han reconvertido a centros comerciales, o siguen usándose pero ahora como teatros, espacios para conciertos,

[Talk-it] Foce waterway

2019-08-02 Thread solitone
Ho aggiunto un waterway=river e JOSM mi dà il warning: > Waterway ends without a connection to another waterway or the direction of > the waterway is wrong In effetti, l’ultimo nodo, dove il fiume sfocia in mare, non è collegato a nulla. Va bene così o devo aggiungere qualcosa?

Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it nice to share?  | Re: Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-08-02 Thread Blake Girardot
On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 8:00 AM Rory McCann wrote: > > Oh yes, there's nothing wrong with Facebook (and Yelp, and TripAdvisor > and and) having their own PoI database. But, they _could_ help us, > massively, by sharing it. They way they talk about OSM, you'd swear they > were already doing all

Re: [Talk-dk] Removing "WikiProject" prefix

2019-08-02 Thread Michel Coene
Hi Daniel, Thank you for your contributions to this project. Unless anybody elso comes up with a good reason why not, you will be welcome to make the changes. b.w. Michel Op do 1 aug. 2019 om 22:31 schreef dcapillae : > Hi, > > I am Daniel, from Spain. I would like to change the name of the

Re: [Talk-es] Cómo mapear una plaza de toros

2019-08-02 Thread Jorge Sanz Sanfructuoso
Buenas. Yo de plazas de toros tampoco sé mucho. No puedo opinar de si es mejor o peor una etiqueta u otra. Pero estoy de acuerdo que se debería etiquetar con homogeneidad. También he visto que cada una esta de una manera, y no he puesto algunas que he visto por no haber un criterio claro de cómo

[OSM-talk] Isn't it nice to share?  | Re: Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-08-02 Thread Rory McCann
On 01/08/2019 18:35, Kathleen Lu via talk wrote: I don't think it's disingenuous at all for Facebook to use their own POIs instead of OSM's. Wasn't the whole point of the Collective Databases principle and the Collective Databases Guideline specifically to enable this type of usage, so that