Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - information

2009-07-25 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009, André Riedel wrote: 2008/11/11 André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com: The tourism=information describes an information source for tourists, travellers and visitors. But it does not differ between diverse types of an information point. The goal of this proposal is to

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-02 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Furthermore industrial areas are built according to standards that allow easy use with trucks, while in residential areas you will more often have smaller streets and straighter curves, which will cause problems to big trucks. That does not

Re: [OSM-talk] road width

2009-08-03 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/3 Liz ed...@billiau.net: now i get to own up to having a flickr account ;-( these roads are all the same width legally, and the actual width depends on the grader driver. also none of them are dry weather only roads - so when you

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch vs JOSM

2009-08-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/4 Liz ed...@billiau.net: Talking with my friends in Kosovo the laptops are underpowered and hang using JOSM the laptops are underpowered and hang using the browser and hence Potlatch the power supply is completely intermitttent the

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Nic Roets wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: anyone got any ideas on tagging potential radioactive sites? a search of the wiki produced nothing so far *thinking* radioactivity=yes type=depleted_uranium Hi Liz, Many scientific

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-10 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Martin Simon wrote: 2009/8/10 Liz ed...@billiau.net: On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Nop wrote: - Some mappers are applying footway and cycleway rather indiscriminately to all sorts of ways so it basically only means not for cars in some areas In short: It's a mess. :-)

Re: [OSM-talk] A process for rethinking map features

2009-08-12 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, Ulf Lamping wrote: There was a discussion on this list about doctors vs. doctor and the conclusion was to use doctors, as this was more natural for native speakers. I don't regard this as purely chaotic ... Regards, ULFL doctors is a contraction of doctor's

Re: [OSM-talk] wikipedia - english

2009-08-21 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, you wrote: I'm looking to implant some OSM maps into Wikipedia, but I need some examples of their wiki editing style so I don't get my edits rubbed out by the style police. Could people please advise me of wikipedia pages with OSM maps so I can view the style of

Re: [OSM-talk] Awards

2009-08-23 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: But that all doesn't give us a reason to add artificial, misleading and useless information to the osm maps. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Copyright_Easter_Eggs -- BOFH excuse #233: TCP/IP UDP alarm threshold is set too low.

Re: [OSM-talk] New proposal: Bad data

2009-08-26 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: --- On Wed, 26/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: could we simply extend source=survey with a year and source=landsat similarly? source=survey09 source=landsat_trace09 source=yahoo_trace08 I'd seperate the information out into 2 key pairs:

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009, Ian Dees wrote: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:59 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: SFD is using a well known proprietary map on their web site. Is there anything in this which OSM or one of its derivatives can't do already?

Re: [OSM-talk] alt_name tag

2009-09-21 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, John Smith wrote: 2009/9/21 Liz ed...@billiau.net: So the street or place might be known locally by an old communist-era name (say Tito Street) but have been officially renamed after some other international dignitary (say Mother Teresa). So while I might say you'll

Re: [OSM-talk] Patch to render names from routes and custom highway shields on a per country basis

2009-09-21 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Richard Weait wrote: Now everything I know about Australian highways I learned from Mel Gibson in _The Road Warrior_ so I have much to learn. What is the shield landscape like in Australia? http://www.ozroads.com.au/NationalSystem/natsystem.htm but we have a partly changed

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-30 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, John Smith wrote: 2009/9/29 ed...@billiau.net: 2009/9/29 ed...@billiau.net: Classic! I always thought the americans bastardised the english language, but I came to find out in recent years american english is an older form of english and well yea, they're

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009, Jeremy Adams wrote: On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Liz, ed...@billiau.net wrote: This is likely to result in several insular communities. In particular I am considering that au mappers would write a tight set of guidelines

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging schema

2009-10-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I'm not an English native speaker, maybe that's why shop=lawyer sounds strange to me. All lawyers that I know of I'd actually consider offices, not shops. I am not discussing the actual tag. I'm discussing the complete ease with which something

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/11/1 Liz ed...@billiau.net I have been to places which have traced streets, and where no aerial imagery from Yahoo or Landsat shows such detail. There were some GPS traces, but not enough to verify the entire traced area. Having

Re: [OSM-talk] Will Google ever use OSM data?

2009-11-12 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Anthony wrote: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Anthony wrote: I'm not sure if this email was meant to be serious or not, but I assume the article wasn't: There's one data set in particular that we've been trying to

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-30 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009, Roy Wallace wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2009, Roy Wallace wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Monday 30 November 2009 22:25:36 Roy Wallace wrote: 1) I can convince you guys

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF: The people you are going to hand over your OSM data ...

2009-12-05 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, SteveC wrote: On Dec 5, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Liz wrote: SteveC marked the NO page as in dispute. No, he didn't mark the YES page as in dispute. If there was no dispute there would be no need for a vote. I answered this on osmf-talk, why're you bringing it up over here?

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF: The people you are going to hand over your OSM data ...

2009-12-05 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, you wrote: Don't you mean rather than admit I was wrong or talk about it where I brought it up, much better to try and stir the pot on another list? i have not made personal comments about any one i suggest you don't either ___

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Share Alike images

2009-12-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Pieren wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: That poll is evidence that the poll should cover all users. 225 respondents out of tens of thousands of contributors will not reach significance. I agree, this poll has no scientific value as

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Why PD is not better for business

2009-12-11 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
so we don't need imported data? -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Why PD is not better for business Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 From: paul youlten paul.youl...@gmail.com To: Liz ed...@billiau.net Liz, The coastline I did back in the old days was between Hastings in

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the policy on unsurveyed roads from imagery?

2009-12-27 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Anthony wrote: On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Anthony wrote: I suppose all the bicyclists in OSM would disagree with that, but they don't have much use for primary/secondary/tertiary designations either, do they?

Re: [OSM-talk] Two different ways with the same nodes?

2010-02-12 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Shaun McDonald wrote: On 12 Feb 2010, at 06:17, ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:57 PM, ed...@billiau.net wrote: Hi, Stefan Pflumm wrote: this ways are all highways. It surely is unusual for two highways sharing the same nodes, and I cannot

Re: [OSM-talk] private mail on wiki??

2010-04-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010, Richard Weait wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Is there a means of PM a person who [on the wiki]? Visit their wiki user page, select email this user from the menu on the lower left? I think you have to log in to see this option. This

Re: [OSM-talk] bulk merge of duplicate points

2010-04-29 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010, Robin Paulson wrote: On 29 April 2010 21:29, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: It would help if you thought a little more about duplicate things on the one position. E.g. Service Station could have 5 or 6 types of fuel, an address, a phone number, notes about ancillary

Re: [OSM-talk] Flash and open source

2010-05-15 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 15 May 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: that's why we call it sour stuff in German (Sauerstoff) ;-) I'm also very concerned about the amount of dihydrogenmonoxide contained in almost any drink you can get nowadays. It is virtually impossible to escape

Re: [OSM-talk] place=isolated_dwelling approved - adding to mapfeatures

2010-05-19 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 19 May 2010, you wrote: But all isolated farms are isolated_dwellings, no ? No. Some isolated farms (called stations) are as large as a hamlet. They are isolated in terms of tens of kms from their neighbours. Some appear on regular maps as if they were towns I'm sure that the

Re: [OSM-talk] Detailed tagging scheme for railways - India

2010-05-22 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 23 May 2010, John Smith wrote: On 23 May 2010 08:36, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: The massive Sydney rail system used for mass transport is *railway* They are not light_rail. Tramway implies that the vehicle shares the street with the cars and bicycles and trucks. In Sydney the

Re: [OSM-talk] Detailed tagging scheme for railways - India

2010-05-22 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 23 May 2010, John Smith wrote: On 23 May 2010 09:59, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: And this isn't a defining thing anyway, because in Rockhampton the railway goes down the middle of the main road for some distance. Was/is that for cane trains? (light rail) no, the main

Re: [OSM-talk] place=isolated_dwelling approved - adding to mapfeatures

2010-05-23 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 23 May 2010, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/5/23 Liz ed...@billiau.net: I think that I understand that in Germany isolated_place is a defined type of entity, while in other places it represents a subjective decision. in some way, many of our tags include subjective decisions. I

Re: [OSM-talk] place=isolated_dwelling approved - adding to mapfeatures

2010-05-23 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 23 May 2010, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/5/23 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: have a look on page 4: http://www.google.de/url?sa=tsource=webct=rescd=1ved=0CB0QFjAAurl=http %3A%2F%2F202.82.16.155%2Fbss%2Fgeography%2Fs7_ppt%2Fch6.pptrct=jq=settlem

Re: [OSM-talk] Question on filtering data

2010-07-15 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010, Tim McNamara wrote: I would break the task up into something like this: Download details for all of the changesets of that user, extract id numbers There are 1300 changesets involved. I have no idea how many are large and how many are small changesets.

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-19 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010, you wrote: No... it slithered out from the 7th Circle of Hell, spawned by the Evil LWG and her commander Mike of Norse. The Brethren Thirteen (the Evil Number) hath rendered blah blah blah... Seriously - where do you guys get off with these dark mutterings? The CT's

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion to add SA clause to CT section 3, describing free and open license

2010-07-19 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010, you wrote: Tell me Liz, have you contributed anything positive to this entire process, ever, in any way? I have, whether or not you see it as positive. I have pointed out that there are problems, and asked people to reconsider what they are doing so that the problems can

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] decision removing data

2010-08-09 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Serge Wroclawski wrote: All of these are valid options. They also all have the attribute of being active- that is focusing on what's to come, instead of focusing on trying to change the past. Thankyou Serge for your opinions. I don't think any ship has sailed, or any

Re: [OSM-talk] Blah blah blah

2010-08-10 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, you wrote: Talk is not how I would describe what's happening on the talk@ mailing list right now. There's a few people replying incessantly to whatever the active thread happens to be at that moment complaining about things that are not related to that thread. If you'd

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM book in English published

2010-09-16 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:54:26 -0700 Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote: Apologies for living in the real world, but why do I need a highly priced printed book for information that is, or should be, available to all *free* of charge on line (apart from internet charges, obviously) for a

Re: [OSM-talk] Diary spam

2010-09-16 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:30:28 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 September 2010 16:11, Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.dk wrote: What should be done in cases like this? The wiki says chill it. The accounts are usually deleted, depending who's about depends on how long

Re: [OSM-talk] A warning about gates and other barriers

2010-09-20 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:21:21 +0100 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 20/09/2010 09:07, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: I prefer asuming that a gate is closed (I tag them with access=private in these cases anyway) This is a bad assumption to have. Just because a gate is closed, it

Re: [OSM-talk] Partnership between OSM and local government?

2010-09-21 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:44:12 +1000 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: That would then include the current and any future license. And that is a problem enough for current contributors, that a future licence is uncertain, so how are you going to expect others to accept it?

Re: [OSM-talk] Error on boundaries + issues with Abkhazia/South Ossetia/disputed territories

2010-09-24 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:56:24 +0400 Kirill Bestoujev bestou...@gmail.com wrote: The question was discussed on the Russian osm-forum, we decided to leave the borders as they are now, not to start a war of edits with Georgian osmers, as Georgia does not recognize Abkhazia or South Osetia as

[OSM-talk] From the register

2010-09-28 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
http://www.reghardware.com/2010/09/28/bike_hub_cycle_app/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] In what direction should OSM go?

2010-09-29 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
This belongs back on talk with a new header. OSM states that it is a free map, free to edit and free to use Whether the database should contain imported stuff, traced stuff, or only personally surveyed stuff is a very big issue and any intent now to alter the basic rules of inputting should be

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] In what direction should OSM go?

2010-09-29 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:52:55 +0200 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: I think this discussion is about - automated - big imports. There are people who frown on all sorts of methods of data collection. This discussion should not be restricted to automated or big imports.

Re: [OSM-talk] Countries that have NOT had any imports?

2010-09-30 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 00:47:02 +0200 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Why not do it the other way round Could you answer the question? You cannot deduce the answer to the original question from the answer to the corollary. ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] In what direction should OSM go?

2010-09-30 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:42:29 -0400 Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Lot lines can be surveyed. Actually, here in Florida anyway, I'm not sure of any boundary line which can't be surveyed. There's an iron rod in the ground in the northeast corner of my property boundary. My property boundary

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] In what direction should OSM go?

2010-09-30 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:53:39 -0400 Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: If none of it can be surveyed, and it doesn't connect to anything which can be surveyed, then we shouldn't have it in OSM. These are interesting ways to define what belongs in OSM, thanks for them.

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-13 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:53:59 +0800 Sam Wilson s...@archives.org.au wrote: On 13/10/10 4:39 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: Would you consider uploading the traces to an independent point, specifying the licence of the traces and giving permission for them to be traced into OSM / other maps

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-13 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:04:20 +0200 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: OK if the streets are perfectly straight and there is nothing around ;-) Perfect for rural and remote Western Australia then. (This is the part of the world that owns the longest railway straight in existence)

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:52:47 +0200 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I mean, there's nothing wrong with having nice map but this is certainly not at the core of the project, and certainly nothing we should aim to have an inspiring vision for. We're providing the underlying data for

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:27:06 +0200 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: The cool thing about OSM is: They can go ahead and create the nice map! sometimes, you have no insight whatsoever. No, I cannot create the nice map. It doesn't belong in MY skill set. I may have a long string of

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:13:10 +0300 Al Haraka alhar...@gmail.com wrote: I do not want to be so blunt, but I do not know any other way: then stop complaining about the map. Or anything an OSM user can complain about at OSM, for that matter. This is an open data project, so I have been told.

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:22:56 -0600 SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Anthony is just trolling. He's been kicked out of wikipedia, as noted multiple times. Ignore him. That is untruthful. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:32:32 +0200 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm very much in favour of adopting such a policy. At the very least, we can then stop debating whether or not we need such policies, and whether or not people's behaviour is harmful - we can simply discuss

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 09:40:36 -0600 SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Fair point Dave. I'm joining you guys and filtering from now on. :0: * ^(to|cc|bcc).*...@inbox.org|\ ^(to|cc|bcc).*deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com|\ ^(to|cc|bcc).*ed...@billiau.net .spam/ This is why I find this

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM shp file plugin

2010-10-20 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:52:54 +0200 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Let's say it is a pro-community mindset. It certainly is incorrect to claim that for the Australian imported data. It has not detracted from our extremely small community.

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=ford vs ford=yes

2010-10-27 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 21:02:56 +0200 Gorm E. Johnsen osml...@gorm.cc wrote: Any suggestions on what to do with the 4800 nodes also tagged with highway=ford? Change them to ford=yes all in one go as well? The nodes I have put in as highway=ford you can leave unless you wish to attend the sites

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=ford vs ford=yes

2010-11-01 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 18:56:59 +0900 Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: It should have been highway=path, ford=yes. Well don't redefine any I have mapped as 'path', because most would have been for vehicles. Again, don't retag without having visited the site. How many times

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=ford vs ford=yes

2010-11-01 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 23:51:47 +0100 Gorm E. Johnsen osml...@gorm.cc wrote: Now I ask for a simple yes or no or better alternatives for changing the tagging scheme for a few k *nodes*. Please, can we continue the discussion on the wiki? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:ford Simply

Re: [OSM-talk] Now: Wikiteam

2010-11-06 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 12:56:43 +0100 Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de wrote: Hi, some might have read my recent post on the wiki edits at http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/!i!/diary/12226 So I'd like to announce the Wiki team to you as a point where you can request help on edits. For

Re: [OSM-talk] Now: Wikiteam

2010-11-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 08:08:19 +0100 Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de wrote: Hi Elizabeth, no it's not. But if you have a look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Cleanup you will see, that some major pages need to be updated and bring to another form. Labeling as stubs is

Re: [OSM-talk] Historical Data in OSM database

2010-11-11 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:25:19 +0100 Laurence Penney l...@lorp.org wrote: For the record, I'm 100% against OSM becoming a place for general historical data unless, at the very least, it's been proved that this kind of historical geodata can work well in a parallel database, and shows no sign of

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap and Amateur Radio / Ham

2010-11-11 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:19:08 +1100 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Just out of interest, what does this email have to do with OSM? never mind, I copied it to my radio club, because I'm a ham radio operator too ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] license change map

2010-11-12 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 08:01:40 +0100 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 11/12/10 02:37, David Murn wrote: From looking at a few different cities in this map, it is quite telling what areas support the licence and which areas will be devastated by the data loss. Everyone

Re: [OSM-talk] New site about the license change

2010-11-17 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:17:00 -0500 Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: The other reason this is complicated, though, is that OSM started with a faulty process of not requiring copyright assignment, which meant that every contributor had to be handled separately. That's being fixed now

Re: [OSM-talk] New site about the license change

2010-11-20 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:01:00 -0500 Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: The CT is a separate issue, and that was only ratified in (I believe) 2010 in its current form. Ratified by the LWG. Neither the membership nor the

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for an Unconference

2010-11-25 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 03:13:27 -0800 (PST) Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: [follow-ups to legal-talk please] David Murn wrote: I have no interest in the legal detail of the licence, only interested in talking about the ramifications of the licence on our map data, no

[OSM-talk] Communication Group Minutes

2010-11-29 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
I have just read the newest OSMF Communication Working Group Minutes. https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=11qaYQt-7rjQsRmVxJ1DSKLgWl4-XZrIyJcIXeeIEvd4 which is shortened as http://bit.ly/exKvJM I didn't actually get any information whatsoever from these minutes. Have they been especially

Re: [OSM-talk] Unsetting CT flag

2010-12-06 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:41:05 -0500 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: We're* also expecting to implement a way for you to flag edits that shouldn't be promoted to CT/ODbL, so you'll be able to accept CT, and flag those changesets that are incompatible individually. The bad ones won't be

Re: [OSM-talk] Unsetting CT flag

2010-12-06 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 22:45:00 +0100 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: If Nearmap is CC-BY-SA, they're compatible now. What about at changeover though?  Im pretty sure Steve asked this question in relation to data in the future, not the present. It's incompatible even at

Re: [OSM-talk] Unsetting CT flag

2010-12-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 11:43:12 + Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: I'm in the position where I have the ability to do both those things certainly but I wouldn't want to do so. The LWG are the people to talk to about this. I would not suggest LWG. They are a committee of the Board. Apply

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Unsetting CT flag

2010-12-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 15:58:07 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 December 2010 12:44, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, John Smith wrote: Frederik seems to consistently misrepresent the license in this sort of dishonest fashion, Well at least I'm not

Re: [OSM-talk] Unsetting CT flag

2010-12-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 00:34:59 + Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk wrote: On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 08:55:26AM -0500, Serge Wroclawski wrote: Assuming this question was asked in good faith, then I can tell you for sure that agreement to a license via a click is indeed valid. Firstly, it’s not

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:35:31 +0530 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: you should not map from any imagery area you know nothing more about. Period. So how about Haiti? Colombia? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] How Can OSMF convince me to accept the New CT and ODBL

2010-12-09 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:34:27 +0100 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Gert, Article 3 is to me the problem: The legal-talk list would be a good place to discuss the wording of the Contributor Terms. Bye Frederik Perhaps more than a quick read would be more beneficial. Gert

Re: [OSM-talk] Massive import of airports

2010-12-17 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 14:06:29 -0500 Blake Crosby m...@blakecrosby.com wrote: The Second round of deletes are complete (changeset 6689583). This resulted in 281 nodes marked as aeroway=helipad being deleted. Blake I'm removing any that I find in my area. I came home yesterday to find that a

Re: [OSM-talk] open.mapquest.com launched for the US

2010-12-17 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 17:26:05 -0600 Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: What makes you think this is an extract? Did you try scrolling over to Europe? snip  If Mapquest wanted to show off the usefulness of OSM data, wouldnt you be using data from Europe or Asia, or for that matter,

Re: [OSM-talk] open.mapquest.com launched for the US

2010-12-17 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 09:22:15 +0800 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: I agree with David, that this shows a view of the world which is distorted, ignoring Asia where most humans actually reside

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-19 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:19:03 + John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: So, you are saying that you feel OpenStreetMap should reflect the status of the road when the aerial photo was made, rather than the current status? The road in question in the original post was on nearmap imagery

Re: [OSM-talk] Objects versions ready for ODbL

2010-12-20 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 11:25:05 +0100 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:00, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: I must admit, however, that basically handing the keys to the OSMF, which is what the new CT's amount to, is not filling me with joy considering

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-22 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 20:27:08 +0100 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: A very good map can't be done just from orthophotos. it is quite a legitimate way of producing maps for remote areas, and a quick web search for orthocadastral map will lead you to scholarly articles on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-22 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 15:46:36 + Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 22/12/2010 09:02, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: I would also point out that in the time of the Cold War the USSR completely mapped the UK from orthophotos, with a little ground work by the spy network. http

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-09 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:28:14 +0100 Gorm E. Johnsen osml...@gorm.cc wrote: I would like to replace them with something better. I was thinking highway=road + surface=unpaved. Do you agree that we should replace highway=unsurfaced? If not, please write a few words why you don't think we should.

Re: [OSM-talk] address parsing by nominatim

2011-01-09 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:15:46 +0100 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/1/9 ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) mevi...@gmail.com: I surveying from Northern India. I studied how addresses are to be tagged in order so nominatim can locate it. That went great. The problem is the every

Re: [OSM-talk] Landsat WMS is dead

2011-01-10 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 01:27:11 +0100 Chris Browet c...@semperpax.com wrote: Just out of curiosity, where is Landsat more detailed than Bing or Yahoo? - Chris - plenty of places near me ie western NSW, australia where there is no nearmap coverage nearmap then defaults to landsat, so I am

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM Fork] paths and roads and approval, oh my

2011-01-12 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 03:10:38 -0800 (PST) NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote: JohnSmitty wrote: No, the lack of a policy to mass retag is the weakness. No. You cannot retag once the meaning of a tag has been lost in multiple different interpretations. bye Nop Even

Re: [OSM-talk] Why I don't use JOSM (was Re: Non-map-based OSM editor)

2011-01-24 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:25:00 +1100 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: (And, if my memory serves, you get slapped on the wrist for trying to download too much.) based on a formula which is related to the number of square kilometres involved, and which has no relation to the amount of data

[OSM-talk] KML to GPX conversion problem

2011-01-27 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
I have just obtained a new device which outputs a KML file which looks like this (selecting a single point) Folder name2011/01/26/name description2011/01/26/description Placemark nameP585/name description![CDATA[2011/01/26 12:14:15 (3D)br(2011/01/26 02:14:15)table border=0 cellpadding=5

Re: [OSM-talk] Creative Commons: Use CC for databases

2011-02-01 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:18:11 -0600 Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: A link would be helpful. Don't see anything like this on his blog. http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/26283 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] magical road detector to play with

2011-02-04 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 21:19:17 +0200 Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: For example, when you spider the web and find references to 5, 20 and 48 Lion Street, Pretoria, then it may help the user who is mapping that street. Perhaps it's a cul de sac and now he doesn't need to travel all the way

Re: [OSM-talk] [OT] questionario su diritto d'autore nell'era digitale

2011-02-04 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 01:38:02 +0100 Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com wrote: My spoken Italian is much better than my written Italian, which isn't any advertisement, so I used Google translate http://tinyurl.com/6emlz6h ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] (magical?) road detector

2011-02-05 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
I will be very happy to hear of any complaints/requests/places where you think the detector should work but it fails/any other feedback. Thanks, Ido I've made one attempt only at tracing a dirt road in dry country with the detector. I found its usefulness less than zero, as the

Re: [OSM-talk] What the license change is going to do to the map

2011-02-09 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:43:42 -0500 Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: But that's got nothing to do with the licensing change - that's an issue of you ripping off Google Maps. It has nothing at all to do with me ripping

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: collateral damage (was: What the license change is going to do to the map)

2011-02-10 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:36:53 +0100 Kay Drangmeister k...@drangmeister.net wrote: However: OSM data integrity is at stake, and you are endangering it, willfully and knowingly. While you seem to understand the reasoning behind the OSM contribution policy, you fail to obey it. You are

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: collateral damage (was: What the license change is going to do to the map)

2011-02-10 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:59:45 + Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: On 10/02/11 19:37, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:36:53 +0100 Kay Drangmeisterk...@drangmeister.net wrote: Let's get this completely fair, and remove all the work of others who have been caught tracing

Re: [OSM-talk] Path with Pit Stops

2011-02-11 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:33:52 +0100 Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name wrote: Is there some kind of application that can help me with plotting the smartest route in a set of points, if you're supposed to visit all the points? Imagine a salesman, who has to visit 10 locations. Is there some

Re: [OSM-talk] 12nm territorial borders - useful or rubbish?

2011-02-15 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:44:38 +0100 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/2/14 ed...@billiau.net:  I've been thinking about the 12nm territorial borders on sea that we have in many places, notably in Europe. Many of them seem to have been auto-generated by simply placing a

Re: [OSM-talk] Power-user GPS app for Android?

2011-02-15 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:49:40 +0200 Ivan Petrushev ivanat...@gmail.com wrote: Can you suggest me a power-user GPS application for Android? I've recently switched from my Sony Ericsson K800 to Android and really miss MapNav. Most of the android apps I've tried are really naive - there is a map,

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