Re: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-10-08 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Ilya, Am 2017-10-08 um 14:53 schrieb Ilya Zverev: > Michael, this is the first time I'm hearing about that light_rail > controversy. It is documented somewhere? If not, why does it make my proposal > worse? Dig a little bit in the history of the wiki page and you will see the edit wars.

Re: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-10-08 Thread Ilya Zverev
Thanks Frederik, I did exactly that in the "What This Affects" chapter of the proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Metro_Mapping#What_This_Affects Basically it introduces (revives) stop_area_group relations and suggest using entrance=* on subway_entrances. Of course

Re: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-10-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Ilya, as a relative public transport outsider I have read your proposal and it claimed to "merely document existing practice" and "clarify" some things. I thought: That's great but why does it need a vote then? Now I read from Roland, who I know is heavily involved in railway mapping, that

Re: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-10-07 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2017-10-07 um 09:11 schrieb Roland Olbricht: > I strongly suggest to oppose the proposal. To do so, you need to add > > {{vote|no}} --[[User:|]] date > > under the headline == Voting == once voting is opened. Said in short: > Adding more contradictions and confusion in public transport

Re: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-10-07 Thread Ilya Zverev
Hi Roland. I sense a lot of hostility in your message. This is actually the first time in my OSM experience that I see a call to (negative) voting in this list. Even weirder that the voting won't start for a week or so. > Adding more contradictions and confusion in public transport mapping

Re: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-10-07 Thread Roland Olbricht
Hi, I strongly suggest to oppose the proposal. To do so, you need to add {{vote|no}} --[[User:|]] date under the headline == Voting == once voting is opened. Said in short: Adding more contradictions and confusion in public transport mapping makes a too complex topic worse in terms of

Re: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-10-06 Thread Ilya Zverev
Michael Reichert wrote: > You are aware that the RFC phase has to bee at least two weeks long? Thanks for reminding that, I indeed think I was too hasty. There are still some unresolved questions, like the one about interchanges (see tagging@). > Why does your validator find lots of errors on

Re: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-10-05 Thread alan_gr
Ilya Zverev-2 wrote > Hi again, > Now it has all the systems for Europe Hi, I'm not clear how it is decided which systems are included and which aren't. In Spain, why is Bilbao in while Valencia, Seville, Malaga are out? I can't see a difference in how the last three are tagged in OSM compared to

Re: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-10-04 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Ilya, Am 30.09.2017 um 18:35 schrieb Ilya Zverev: > I have made a script that parses and validates subway systems. It prints the > number of subway lines and stations that an automated system can extract from > the OpenStreetMap data. See the latest report here (these are updated > manually

Re: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-10-04 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Ilya, Am 30.09.2017 um 18:35 schrieb Ilya Zverev: > Some questions are answered on the Talk page there. Next week I'll open a > voting, so that tagging schema could be made official. You are aware that the RFC phase has to bee at least two weeks long?

Re: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-10-04 Thread Ilya Zverev
Hi again, I've got some more news regarding the subway validator. It is still there, updated just yesterday: http://osmz.ru/subways/ Now it has all the systems for Europe, Africa and both Americas. I am slowly adding asian cities: there are too many of these, sorry. The link to the

Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-10-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 1. Oct 2017, at 10:27, Cascafico Giovanni wrote: > > Ed io che pensavo ci fossero solo una paio di nodi a Roma ... :-) > non sono solo subway, sono anche treni regionali/trenini, non so se ha molto senso aggiungere un station=light_rail a tutte

Re: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-10-01 Thread Ilya Zverev
Hi Daniel, > Nice to see another unification effort, but I have a specific question: we > have an interchange station in Warsaw called "Świętokrzyska". I marked it as > one station some time ago in the middle of lines crossing. > Lately somebody (namely

Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-10-01 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
nk per lItalia: > http://osmz.ru/subways/italy.html > > Ciao, Martin > > sent from a phone > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From:* Ilya Zverev <i...@zverev.info> > *Date:* 30. September 2017 at 18:35:18 CEST > *To:* t...@openstreetmap.org > *Subject:* *[O

Re: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-09-30 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 30.09.2017 o 18:35, Ilya Zverev pisze: usable, I've compiled a list of practices on this page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Metro_Mapping Some questions are answered on the Talk page there. Next week I'll open a voting, so that tagging schema could be made

Re: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-09-30 Thread Milo van der Linden
Nice! I like the detail you guys are applying. Keep up the good work! 2017-09-30 18:35 GMT+02:00 Ilya Zverev : > Hi, > > I have made a script that parses and validates subway systems. It prints the > number of subway lines and stations that an automated system can extract from

Re: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-09-30 Thread Fredrik
Cool stuff. I was clicking around and the link to the github repo is either dead or to a private repo. Not sure if this was intentional? \FredrikLindseth On 30. sep. 2017 19:06, Ilya Zverev wrote: My definition of a subway is a network of lines that are marked "subway" on official subway

Re: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-09-30 Thread Ilya Zverev
My definition of a subway is a network of lines that are marked "subway" on official subway maps. Though validator also processes light rail lines (with obviously similar definition). Ilya > 30 сент. 2017 г., в 19:59, john whelan написал(а): > > Silly question but

Re: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-09-30 Thread john whelan
Silly question but what is your definition of a subway? Is it different to commuter rail? Thanks John On 30 Sep 2017 12:38 pm, "Ilya Zverev" wrote: > Hi, > > I have made a script that parses and validates subway systems. It prints > the number of subway lines and stations

[Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-09-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
at 18:35:18 CEST > To: t...@openstreetmap.org > Subject: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world > > Hi, > > I have made a script that parses and validates subway systems. It prints the > number of subway lines and stations that an automated system can extract fr

[OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-09-30 Thread Ilya Zverev
Hi, I have made a script that parses and validates subway systems. It prints the number of subway lines and stations that an automated system can extract from the OpenStreetMap data. See the latest report here (these are updated manually for now): http://osmz.ru/subways/ It is still in beta: