Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

Christian I fully agree, but we do have enough tools at our disposal to tag multiple local names in various forms. And while there is always some dispute in how to do it exactly in multi-lingual areas the principle of recording these names is well supported.  The one doubtful name in the case of

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

Hi, I would like to refer to Yves (yvecai)'s suggestion below once again: Yes, the OSM Wiki page about Names says something about avoiding transliteration (though currently only the wiki page in English). But: In fact, it has a section on "Localization", which clearly implies the usage of

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

> Le 30 juin 2018 à 11:56, Simon Poole a écrit : > > As already has been pointed out nobody is even remotely proposing to limit > adding actual real names, quite the contrary. > It just needs to be understood that most places and objects don't actually > have names in more than one language

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

abbett > *Sent:* 29 June 2018 12:21:06 > *To:* OSM talk mailing list > *Subject:* Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language" >   > On 29 June 2018 at 11:57, Simon Poole wrote: > > >> On 29.06.2018 12:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > >>> Ne

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

sent from a phone > On 30. Jun 2018, at 10:32, Andrew Hain wrote: > > It is unfortunate that a few people have sought to limit the contribution of > names by our mappers. As I understood the discussion, nobody wants to limit the contribution of names, the concerns regard entering

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

town off the map. It is unfortunate that a few people have sought to limit the contribution of names by our mappers. -- Andrew From: Andy Mabbett Sent: 29 June 2018 12:21:06 To: OSM talk mailing list Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

On 30/06/18 15:08, Yves wrote: While there is a lot of things said here in this thread, I notice that: 1 there is very little advice in the article on how to enter names in OSM. 2 there no comment on the blog that would give advice on how to enter names in OSM. It would be the right time if

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names I would especially encourage you to read the entire section "Avoid transliteration", which also discusses translation issues. On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Yves wrote: > While there is a lot of things said here in this thread, I notice that: > 1

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

While there is a lot of things said here in this thread, I notice that: 1 there is very little advice in the article on how to enter names in OSM. 2 there no comment on the blog that would give advice on how to enter names in OSM. It would be the right time if OSM people would take the time to

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

* The BIG part of the announcement is that OSM data is now being used to create truly multilingual map with a very large exposure. I hope some people here are not saying that such project should not have been built? If you want to help, see at the end. * I do not think names should be simply

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

29. Jun 2018 13:18 by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk : > On 29 June 2018 at 11:38, Max <> abonneme...@revolwear.com > > > wrote: > >> "Add the missing names to OSM in your language." >> >> That is inflating the OSM database with

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

W dniu 29.06.2018 o 14:03, Christoph Hormann pisze: > * adding non-verifiable name translations (verifiability being > understood according to OSM principles, not those of Wikipedia) to OSM With translations "on the ground rule" is not working in most of the cases. There are different sources,

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

Ha! I was going to cite that as an example. I recently removed precisely that absurd tag in Paris. On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 14:06 Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 29.06.2018 13:44, Simon Poole wrote (quoting Wikimedia): > > Add the missing names to OSM in your language. > > I think that this

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

On 29 June 2018 at 12:44, Simon Poole wrote: >>> they should not be calling for their users to vandalize OSM. >> Nor are they. >> I expected some negativity in response to this remarkable good news; >> but this hyperbolic response is beyond acceptable. > > So you are denying that they are

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

On 2018-06-29 3:38 AM, Max wrote: That is inflating the OSM database with something that Wikidata has solved already in a much better way. Why would someone from wikimedia recommend to create a less mentainable version of their database? Wikidata has 412978 "thoroughfare" items. OSM has 121

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

Il giorno ven 29 giu 2018 alle ore 13:48 Simon Poole ha scritto: > Am 29.06.2018 um 13:21 schrieb Andy Mabbett: > > ... > > Nor are they. > > I expected some negativity in response to this remarkable good news; > but this hyperbolic response is beyond acceptable. > > So you are denying that they

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

Hi, On 29.06.2018 13:44, Simon Poole wrote (quoting Wikimedia): > Add the missing names to OSM in your language. I think that this simply means we need much better name QA in the future, and must not be afraid to remove names that don't belong there. Until now we've practically let every

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

On Friday 29 June 2018, Andy Mabbett wrote: > New Wikimedia Foundation blog post: > > > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2018/06/28/interactive-maps-now-in-your-la >nguage/ In the past i have been only slightly annoyed by Wikimedia people failing to understand or to accept the idea behind

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

Am 29.06.2018 um 13:21 schrieb Andy Mabbett: > ... > Nor are they. > > I expected some negativity in response to this remarkable good news; > but this hyperbolic response is beyond acceptable. So you are denying that they are asking their users to add names to OSM so that their application looks

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

On 29 June 2018 at 11:57, Simon Poole wrote: >> On 29.06.2018 12:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: >>> New Wikimedia Foundation blog post: >>> >>> >>> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2018/06/28/interactive-maps-now-in-your-language/ > they should not be calling for their users to vandalize OSM. Nor are

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

On 29 June 2018 at 11:38, Max wrote: > "Add the missing names to OSM in your language." > > That is inflating the OSM database with something that Wikidata has solved > already in a much better way. Why would someone from wikimedia recommend to > create a less mentainable version of their

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

Not only that. It confuses "translations" with "names commonly in use for the place in your language" we only want the later in OSM. If the WMF wants the former in WD that is their call (the rather small place (3'000 pop)I live in has name entries in 30 languages, even though there are at most 2

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

"Add the missing names to OSM in your language." That is inflating the OSM database with something that Wikidata has solved already in a much better way. Why would someone from wikimedia recommend to create a less mentainable version of their database? On 29.06.2018 12:18, Andy Mabbett

[OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

New Wikimedia Foundation blog post: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2018/06/28/interactive-maps-now-in-your-language/ -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org