Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-24 Thread John Smith
Something else worth noting, as I've been doing postcode boundaries I've noticed some people have wiped some of the ABS tags so they could do their roads or what not. I've added them back in as it's only fair to attribute the ABS for their data but has anyone else noticed this at all, or even remov

Re: [talk-au] comments on being argumentative

2009-09-24 Thread John Smith
2009/9/25 Liz : > there have been a few comments made on John Smith being persistent in > argument. > > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Richard/diary/8032 > > > Comment: should have fixed the date of birth You mean I beat out Roy for the prize, I feel so honoured! ;) _

Re: [talk-au] http://maposmatic.org/

2009-09-24 Thread John Smith
2009/9/25 James Andrewartha : > It's Python using Django and PostGIS (a PostgreSQL addon). > > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/maposmatic/ocitysmap.git/tree/ > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/maposmatic.git/tree/ as linked off > http://maposmatic.org/about/ PostGIS is just some libs and tables

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-24 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:02 PM, John Smith wrote: >> >>> just for fun I've printed out a walking-papers page and am going to see if >>> it >>> is any use for tagging shops in a suburban strip shopping strip >>> and then how will I define the

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-24 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > > Roy i'm not really suggesting tag forms > > but a logical set of the tags > > so if we made up a wiki page on how to be obsessional with tagging the > > source of data we would need to set the tags

[talk-au] comments on being argumentative

2009-09-24 Thread Liz
there have been a few comments made on John Smith being persistent in argument. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Richard/diary/8032 Comment: should have fixed the date of birth ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstr

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-24 Thread Roy Wallace
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:02 PM, John Smith wrote: > >> just for fun I've printed out a walking-papers page and am going to see if it >> is any use for tagging shops in a suburban strip shopping strip >> and then how will I define the survey= > > source=survey > survey=observation I don't think s

Re: [talk-au] Bugs - TidyMyStreet

2009-09-24 Thread Lindley Bowers
Awesome, bugs.bigtincan.com (TidyMyStreet) is working again, thanks :). I'll continue popping up council errors, most notably street sign problems there. So far the reception by the two councils I've rung up to submit the problems with the street signs has been very well received. Thanks again for

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-24 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > > ideas for subsets > > gps_chip=antaris/sirfstar3/mediatek/trimble/ > > gps_model= > > hdop= > > pdop= > > (precision would be some rough figure for the track, i wouldn't want to > > see them on eac

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-24 Thread Roy Wallace
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > > ideas for subsets > gps_chip=antaris/sirfstar3/mediatek/trimble/ > gps_model= > hdop= > pdop= > (precision would be some rough figure for the track, i wouldn't want to see > them on each single node) May I suggest adding source:*=* to the

Re: [talk-au] What's the best way to edit on holidays?

2009-09-24 Thread Liz
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Mark Pulley wrote: > (I should be able to complete the Antarctica highway system > on the trip :-P ) Now to be able to say that I have completed the entire highway for a continent singlehanded surely is better than "North Star" for completing a town http://wiki.openstreet

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-24 Thread Roy Wallace
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Mark Pulley wrote: > > The obvious place to look at the wiki > is http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source - however on this page even > "source=survey" is missing. I'm with Mark - this should be cleaned up, preferably by someone who has a clearer understand

Re: [talk-au] http://maposmatic.org/

2009-09-24 Thread James Andrewartha
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, John Smith wrote: > 2009/9/24 Liz : > > http://maposmatic.org/ > > > > John ! I want! > > It says it needs translation from French and some organisation of admin > > boundaries... > > > > OK > > Please John, how can we have this for Australia? > > How can we help make this hap

[talk-au] Great Western Highway relation question

2009-09-24 Thread Mark Pulley
I recently added a relation for the Great Western Highway (Bathurst to Lapstone), and extended the existing NR32 relation to Lapstone (stopping where NR32/Great Western Highway becomes M4/Western Motorway). The Great Western Highway does continue further, although there is a break between t

Re: [talk-au] source=lansat

2009-09-24 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:25:52 +1000 John Smith wrote: > 2009/9/24 Ross Scanlon : > > I noticed in tagwatch that there are some source tags that have values > > lansat. > > > > Is this an incorrect entry for landsat? > > I'm guessing so, and it's easy with JOSM at least to replicate these > error

Re: [talk-au] source=lansat

2009-09-24 Thread John Smith
2009/9/24 Ross Scanlon : > I noticed in tagwatch that there are some source tags that have values lansat. > > Is this an incorrect entry for landsat? I'm guessing so, and it's easy with JOSM at least to replicate these errors with it's auto complete based on what tags are already loaded.

[talk-au] source=lansat

2009-09-24 Thread Ross Scanlon
I noticed in tagwatch that there are some source tags that have values lansat. Is this an incorrect entry for landsat? It seems to be about 3 or 4 users that have entered these. Google references the nasa landsat page or a definition of a type of berry. -- Cheers Ross

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-24 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:11:30 +1000 Mark Pulley wrote: > On 24/09/2009, at 2:07 PM, Ross Scanlon wrote: > >> I'd prefer to stick to the guidelines, rather than making up tags - > >> as > >> long as I know what the guidelines actually are! > > Then RTFW > > There's no need to be rude. Read the

Re: [talk-au] Great Western Highway relation question

2009-09-24 Thread John Smith
2009/9/24 Mark Pulley : > I recently added a relation for the Great Western Highway (Bathurst to > Lapstone), and extended the existing NR32 relation to Lapstone (stopping > where NR32/Great Western Highway becomes M4/Western Motorway). The Great > Western Highway does continue further, although th

Re: [talk-au] What's the best way to edit on holidays?

2009-09-24 Thread John Smith
2009/9/24 Mark Pulley : > There is one major snag that I can see - prior to uploading I will need to > download any changes made since I initially downloaded the data. (For the > overseas trip this would be several weeks worth of changes, although I'm > sure not much would change on the Antarctic p

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-24 Thread John Smith
2009/9/24 Mark Pulley : > on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features but it's not exactly the > most obvious place to look. That should be the first place to look, not the last. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.op

Re: [talk-au] http://maposmatic.org/

2009-09-24 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, John Smith wrote: > The short answer no idea... > > The longer answer is no idea :) > > They didn't seem to have a link to download it and even if they did I > only know a limited number of computer languages, I don't know perl or > ruby or python which are common langu

[talk-au] Great Western Highway relation question

2009-09-24 Thread Mark Pulley
I recently added a relation for the Great Western Highway (Bathurst to Lapstone), and extended the existing NR32 relation to Lapstone (stopping where NR32/Great Western Highway becomes M4/Western Motorway). The Great Western Highway does continue further, although there is a break between t

[talk-au] What's the best way to edit on holidays?

2009-09-24 Thread Mark Pulley
In the past when I have gone on holidays, I have uploaded the GPS tracks at the end, then (usually over a couple of weeks) added the roads via Potlatch using audio annotations made during the trip. I have been thinking about whether there is a better way. I might be going to Flinders Island

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-24 Thread Mark Pulley
On 24/09/2009, at 2:07 PM, Ross Scanlon wrote: I'd prefer to stick to the guidelines, rather than making up tags - as long as I know what the guidelines actually are! Then RTFW There's no need to be rude. The obvious place to look at the wiki is http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source

Re: [talk-au] http://maposmatic.org/

2009-09-24 Thread John Smith
2009/9/24 Liz : > http://maposmatic.org/ > > John ! I want! > It says it needs translation from French and some organisation of admin > boundaries... > > OK > Please John, how can we have this for Australia? > How can we help make this happen for us? The short answer no idea... The longer ans

Re: [talk-au] TidyMyStreet

2009-09-24 Thread John Smith
2009/9/24 : > Another thing I'd like to do is to generate a street map (with a grid > reference of all the roads) of a council boundary, there's a few > utilities that can do that already, but they're not terribly well > supported / user friendly just yet, but in time they will be better :D Any

Re: [talk-au] TidyMyStreet

2009-09-24 Thread Liz
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, cam_...@fastmail.fm wrote: > Another thing I'd like to do is to generate a street map (with a grid > reference of all the roads) of a council boundary, there's a few > utilities that can do that already, but they're not terribly well > supported / user friendly just yet, but in

Re: [talk-au] TidyMyStreet

2009-09-24 Thread cam_daw
On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 15:41 +1000, John Smith wrote: 2009/9/24 : > > > Very good point, in which case perhaps a mobile phone interface can omit > > the address field, but a full computer web based interface could include > > the address field? (or perhaps come up with some sleek interface > > th

[talk-au] http://maposmatic.org/

2009-09-24 Thread Liz
http://maposmatic.org/ John ! I want! It says it needs translation from French and some organisation of admin boundaries... OK Please John, how can we have this for Australia? How can we help make this happen for us? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@o

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-24 Thread John Smith
2009/9/24 Elizabeth Dodd : > On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, John Smith wrote: >> > If you think in the Venn diagram >> > source=survey is a big box >> > source=gps is a subset of that box >> > and then some other subsets of gps would be needed >> >> GPS on it's own isn't more meaningful either, not without k

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-24 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, John Smith wrote: > > If you think in the Venn diagram > > source=survey is a big box > > source=gps is a subset of that box > > and then some other subsets of gps would be needed > > GPS on it's own isn't more meaningful either, not without knowing the > hardware used, since m

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-24 Thread John Smith
2009/9/24 Liz : > If you think in the Venn diagram > source=survey is a big box > source=gps is a subset of that box > and then some other subsets of gps would be needed GPS on it's own isn't more meaningful either, not without knowing the hardware used, since most surveys will be using consumer g

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-24 Thread Liz
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, John Smith wrote: > You're blowing smoke, it's obvious source=gps is the same thing as > source=survey, however source=survey is a core set of features and > already in wide spread and common usage. If you think in the Venn diagram source=survey is a big box source=gps is a s

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-24 Thread John Smith
2009/9/24 Dan O'Hara : > From what I've read I now will go back to source=survey and add the tag > survey=gps.  I will consider further the advantages of further definition to > GPS type (I think that could well end up in a Commodore/Falcon and > Landcruiser/Patrol debate). Not really, cars have h

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-24 Thread Ross Scanlon
> I'm still a relative newcomer to OSM (and am still in wonder at the > complexity and enormity of the task!) and have found this discussion quite > interesting. I only use Potlatch as I was advised it was simple, and for > beginners, and it loaded by default in the edit screen. I use an Orego

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-24 Thread John Smith
2009/9/24 Dan O'Hara : > GPS.  I started only using the tag source=survey until Potltach added the > GPS tag.  I thought that the Wiki had simply not been updated but that some I've mailed the main talk list over this, no doubt it'll end up in a pointless debate, either the wiki will be updated t

Re: [talk-au] The source tag [Was] More on the survey tag

2009-09-24 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:35:56 +1000 John Smith wrote: > 2009/9/24 Ross Scanlon : > > so who's aerial_photography is it? > > Those may need an attributation=* tag, should be easy enough to work > out where they came from. A quick look shows > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/MatthewC tagged ways