On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:42:01 +1100
Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
> Let's talk real advice, from the old white haired lady, who has been
> on non-profit Boards and for-profit Boards over the last 15 years.
Just published is this guide from the Institute of Directors and some
others, for UK registered unl
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Neal Schulz
wrote:
> Hi,
>
>>In any case, "candidates welcome" was a ridiculous comment.
>
> I agree with this... If the only way to give feedback to an organisation is
> to run for a position... well it's a ridiculous notion.
>
> I have been trying to stay out o
Hi,
>In any case, "candidates welcome" was a ridiculous comment.
I agree with this... If the only way to give feedback to an organisation is to
run for a position... well it's a ridiculous notion.
I have been trying to stay out of the licensing issue because I really don't
understand the deta
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
> I can see the legal line of thought for paying to belong to a company /
> organisation.
I can too. Annual membership dues provide a mechanism for a member to
1) show who they are (thereby making it more difficult to obtain
multiple votes),
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 5:15 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Mike Dupont
> wrote:
>> Yeah, I dont pay in money, I pay in code and data. Does that count?
>> Also I payed in trips all over to collect data, dinners with people, etc etc.
>> Why do I need to pay money to a
On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:43:52 +0100
Mike Dupont wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Steve Bennett
> wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Mike Dupont
> > wrote:
> >> Yeah, I dont pay in money, I pay in code and data. Does that count?
> >> Also I payed in trips all over to collect
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Mike Dupont
> wrote:
>> Yeah, I dont pay in money, I pay in code and data. Does that count?
>> Also I payed in trips all over to collect data, dinners with people, etc etc.
>> Why do I need to pay money to
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Mike Dupont
wrote:
> Yeah, I dont pay in money, I pay in code and data. Does that count?
> Also I payed in trips all over to collect data, dinners with people, etc etc.
> Why do I need to pay money to a bank account so that I have a say?
> FAIL!
You could make th
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 2:46 AM, Anthony wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Richard Fairhurst
> wrote:
>>
>> Steve Bennett wrote:
>>> Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
>>> > 1. OSMF needs a written out strategic plan.
>>> Hear, hear.
>>
>> The equivalent of "Patches welcome" in this case is:
>>
>> O
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
>
> Steve Bennett wrote:
>> Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
>> > 1. OSMF needs a written out strategic plan.
>> Hear, hear.
>
> The equivalent of "Patches welcome" in this case is:
>
> OSMF is a democratically elected body. Candidates welcome.
...p
On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 15:12:32 -0800 (PST)
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> OSMF is a democratically elected body. Candidates welcome. I guess
> 2011's elections will take place at the start of July as usual.
I can honestly say that I do not have time available to put into such a
job in the near future.
Steve Bennett wrote:
> Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
> > 1. OSMF needs a written out strategic plan.
> Hear, hear.
The equivalent of "Patches welcome" in this case is:
OSMF is a democratically elected body. Candidates welcome. I guess 2011's
elections will take place at the start of July as usual.
(La
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
> 1. OSMF needs a written out strategic plan.
Hear, hear.
Steve
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On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
> Following these principles would put an end to a large amount of
> bickering. I wouldn't read emails which can be summarised as "just a
> little bit longer, and it will be all right". Reference could be made
I totally agree with this. I wa
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:33:15 +
Grant Slater wrote:
>
> Elizabeth, I tried to start a discussion with you offlist a few months
> ago, instead you decided to belittle me about my age. (I haven't had
> that since I was in my twenties so maybe I am just being overly
> sensitive.)
> Since you ha
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 20:18:07 +
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> [off-list]
>
> > I have been labelled a 'troll' which I am not, and
> > been the subject of personal abuse by SteveC.
>
> Hang about. I'm not SteveC and I wouldn't necessarily class him as
> among "the guys who are doing stuff" tha
On 22 November 2010 20:02, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
>
> I find this quite offensive. Because I have discussed things and asked
> questions, while indicating that I do not agree, I have been treated
> extremely rudely on other OSM mailing lists, in particular by persons
> in 'high places'. I have been
Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
> I don't agree with ODBL. I don't think that it is right that those
> providing manipulated data eg data ready for a navigation app
> (Navit, Garmin format) should have to provide access to a planet
> dump of OSM as well.
They don't have to.
ODbL 4.6b: "You must also off
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 08:59:13 -0800 (PST)
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> Because when you engage with the guys who are
> doing stuff, make suggestions, talk to them in a friendly manner, the
> result is better for everyone. That applies as much to licence
> discussions as it does to OSM software or w
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 22:50:09 +1100
Steve Bennett wrote:
> But I also
> haven't yet seen any reasons, other than sheer bloody mindedness, why
> a person who was happy to contribute under a CC-BY-SA licence would be
> unhappy to do so under ODbL, assuming they were able to do so.
I don't agree wi
David Murn wrote:
> the problem is that the powers-that-be dont seem to want to
> address the problematic terms and simply tell people the
> decisions have already been made, and to cease discussion.
> Hardly the way to run an open community project.
I realise the phrase "assume good faith" i
- Original Message -
From: "Richard Weait"
To: "David Murn"
Cc: "talk-au"
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Fwd: license change map
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:34 AM, David Murn
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On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 22:50 +110
- Original Message -
From: "Richard Weait"
To: "David Murn"
Cc: "talk-au"
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Fwd: license change map
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:34 AM, David Murn wrote:
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 22:50 +110
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:34 AM, David Murn wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 22:50 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote:
>
>> But I also haven't yet seen any reasons, other than sheer bloody mindedness,
>> why
>> a person who was happy to contribute under a CC-BY-SA licence would be
>> unhappy to do so under
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 22:50 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote:
> But I also haven't yet seen any reasons, other than sheer bloody mindedness,
> why
> a person who was happy to contribute under a CC-BY-SA licence would be
> unhappy to do so under ODbL, assuming they were able to do so.
The problem occur
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:11 PM, David Murn wrote:
> Thats fine for data that is sourced from NearMap. What about other data
> sources, such as imports and the like? Having said that, if the CTs are
> accepted by one group, Im sure theyll be accepted by most, as it seems
> that everyone has the
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 17:29 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote:
> But maybe I misunderstood the target of the email. I guess there are
> three possible outcomes of the licence debate:
> 1) The CTs get sorted out so that NearMap etc are happy with them, and
> OSM switches to ODbL. However, some people refu
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Ian Sergeant wrote:
> For most people involved in OSM it is an enjoyable hobby, and that is why
> they do it. Data comes and goes, and I can't expect the data I enter to
> live for time immemorial. Of all the areas of that I mapped back in 2007,
> very few of the
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