Anthony wrote
"Creating new Bus Stop nodes
Is the consensus to remove the plaform tags from new nodes?"
I'm not sure I understand.
If you are creating a new bus stop node, then there won't be any tags to
remove, platform or otherwise.
___
Talk-au
Hi Anthony,
One reason I can see for discussing this edit here, before doing it, is in
regard to the cases where the platform tag already exists on an area close
to the bus stop node.
If this edit had not been reverted then the question would be, who will
clean up the mess of the duplicate tags.
Many thanks Satoshi IIDA, We (Canberra Cavalry) have quite a few Japanese
players in our team this year, mainly pitchers. Tonight should be a good
night and the Japanese ambassador to Australia will be there. I only hope
he doesn't want my t-shirt :-) Cheers form Canberra Australia Nick
Can anyone, who was at SOTM 2012 tell me what the inscription on the front
of the T-shirt says.
I'm going to wear mine tonight at a "Japanese Night" at the Baseball and
anyone from Japan who is there is bound to come up and ask me about it.
I know it starts of "70 Million people can't be
Hi Martijn,
In my opinion the biggest improvement to Australian OSM data, to make it
usefull for automotive navigation, would be the addition of offline address
data.
I believe that most states have address datasets available that are OSM
licence compliant and could be used for import. Would
Other criteria for ranking a object for "change protection" could be
1) How long has it been since the last change to it.
2) How big is it. ( a long road would rank higher than a short one)
3) How many things are "attached to it"
4) How important is it. (Motorways are more important than
I think that the "take-away" from all this is...
Since OSM is a community project, no one (or group) can work in isolation.
At some stage the community will have questions/criticisms of your work.
You must be able to receive and respond to these promptly.
Failure to do so will inevitably result
Andrew wrote "According to the Geographical Names Board "Bullenbung Creek"
is the old name and "Bullenbong Creek" is the new name (and by new we are
talking
since July 1972)."
Ok thanks - I'll put Bullenbung in as Alt-name.
___
Talk-au mailing list
Surveying the area between Wagga and Echuca last week I have noticed the
following.
a) At the turn off from the Sturt Highway to Lockhart the (newish) sign
said "Collingullie Jerildere Road" and there were no sign saying "Lockhart
Road". LPI NSW Base Map has "Lockhart Road".
The lowerr end of
Thanks Nev, Tathra looks good.
Now if we could only get those addressess in!
I'm convinced that for OSM to be really usefull it has to be able to fulfil
the function of Car Navigation and that this requires all data to be
available offline.
So all we need is permission to use the LPI addressess
I'll map all the houses in Tathra tonight unless someone else beats me to
it.
___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
I've always been of the opinion that any of the original TIGER data import
that has not yet been edited and does not have a name tag, should just be
deleted.
Then, and only then can the rural areas begin to be mapped correctly.
In the early days there were a lot of people who thought that "any
Address data could also be used to verify street/road names and also add
them where they are missing.
___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Hi Jubal
The missing OSM information in Australia that would be, by a large margin,
the most usefull, would be address data (and building footprint, if
available).
If we had address data then OSM maps would be usefull for the genberal
public to use in car navigation etc.
Collecting address data
Ben wrote
"I think that's some kind of location code. I forget what it's called. If
you search for that string in Google Maps it takes you to an address at
the Gold Coast."
Bing maps (and Bing search) does not know of this string. Maybe it's
proprietary Google information.
Nick
If byo=yes, then it would be useful to know if corkage is charged, and if
so, how much.
___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Sam wrote
"
https://services.slip.wa.gov.au/public/services/SLIP_Public_Services/Transport/MapServer/WMSServer
"
Thanks Sam,
That WMS works well. I'll start working on this this weekend.
The first area I looked at (Banksia Grove) looks to be a bit of a nightmare
:-(
Takes us back to to days
AAAH - all my questions are answered.
The City of Austin's use of google base map has "fooled" me into thinking
that the map data was theirs rather than googles. If I click on the "blue
line" then I see the actual City of Austin data and indeed it is "REED WILL
DRIVE".
Damm - So I have actually
Clifford wrote
"Looking at the data from
Austin, the road should be name Reed Will Drive."
Hi Clifford.
Which site did you find the authoritive data for Austin from? (Tiger has
nothing and is not authorative anyway, as far as I can tell)
The Cit of Austin site
Nathan wrote
"Best to stay well on the correct side of the line "
Ok - point taken.
Did I mention that at the location I posted (using OSM) the CAPCOG website
(roads dataset)
http://regional-open-data-capcog.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/roads-2015
has the road listed as REED WILL and with a
richlv wrote "just a quick reminder that we should try not to use google
maps or
streetview, the legal status of "just looking" is also fuzzy :)"
Ok, so I if want to find out what a road is called, I'm not allowed to use
a street directory to do this? This would be extremely weird.
If I am
We have specific permissions to use certain QLD and WA data. Do we have any
such permissions for VIC, or do we have anybody who knows who to ask?
Also are there and tile servers or overlays for the QLD and WA data that we
can use to manually get the redacted road names back easily?
Andrew wrote "I would check out the City of Austin's OpenData portal:
https://data.austintexas.gov/Locations-and-Maps/Street-Segment/t4fe-kr8c
The license is the same (PD) as when the initial building import was
completed, so you are good to go."
Thanks Andrew, I'm now replacing some names
at http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/30.23990/-97.57717
Openstreetmap has three missing roads, that Bing and Google have as, Joe
Lane, Cleto Street and Fifnella way.
Tiger 2017 does not have these. Is there any usable source for these Texas
roads or, if not, does anyone have local knowledge
I wrote "NSW and Queensland don't have any sources of names that we can
use, so they
will have to be surveyed."
Actually , I meant Victoria and Queensland. NSW does have a good source but
there are no redacted roads in NSW.
___
Talk-us mailing list
Can someone put up an OSM task so that we can replace these names , from
Tiger 2017?
___
Talk-us mailing list
Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Some while back, at the Denver SOTM, a bloke gave a presentation about
depiction.
This software is all about dynamic changes to the map due to natural
hazards like flood, fire, etc and has the ability to incorporate immediate
changes to routability by marking roads closed or marking certain areas
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/29.86540/-95.66553
Can someone who has access to TIGER 2017 or who has local knowledge, add
the names of these two new roads.
Bing imagery shows that these new roads already have residents. They were
not in OSM, till today, and are in the flood affected area
Are the emergency shelters currently mapped in OSM?
I think that it would be really useful, in an emergency to have these
locations available on your phone or watch as offline routable maps
(including whether they are pet friendly).
Maybe in the next few months we could convince/help all states
Thanks Mike,
Looks good. I've already found a serious routability issue with an
unedited TIGER road in the Houston area. -I'm fixing it now.
Cheers
Nick
___
Talk-us mailing list
Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
Is there anything we can do, OSMwise, for communities in the path of
Hurricane Irma.
Anything that may be useful for search and recovery would be a priority.
___
Talk-us mailing list
Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
Hi Brian,
>From the TxDOT website I see that the road data is updated yearly, but
unfortunately the data was last published at the end of 2015.
One think I would like to make sure of, is that Texas roads are up-to-date
so that any new subdivisions that may be water affected are actually on the
This is how it's done
http://www.dw.com/en/online-map-shows-wheelchair-accessible-locations-worldwide/a-15381244
I met this bloke at SOTM Japan some years ago. He didn't put out a
questionaire about whether non-disabled persons tended to tag less
accessability tags than disabled persons,
We are ,mostly, volunteers. Therefore I think we should map whatever takes
our fancy and should not feel obliged to spend our time/money on mapping
that we do not want to do willingly.
If the location based service providers find that certain info is missing
that they would like to have then
I haven't read the whole thread, so apologies if I'm repeating something.
How about we introduce into editors (that advanced users use) a default
behaviour that at above a certain zoom level, all features that have been
edited in the last 24 hours are somehow colourised. Features edited between
1
How about we ask the game maker to code in (and let slip in social media)
that lots of new pokemon stuff may appear on every OSM residential road,
outside a residence that has a street number (in OSM) equal to todays day
number (e.g 28 - for today). Of course all the other OSM address tags must
Where Cooks Hill Road crosses the Hume Highway near Yass NSW
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-34.80827/148.93106
The are signs, on the sides of the bridge, facing both carriageways, saying
"Yellow Creek Road",
Why this so is a mystery to me and the only references to "Yellow Creek
Road"
Thanks all,
I'll start the process this weekend but I suspect it will be a long slow
process with lots of new learning for me.
Cheers
Nick
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Has anyone here put OSM data into GeoServer.
Is there a primer somewhere to help me along the way.
Nick
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
In OSM there seem to quite a few incorrectly named "Fazzolari Avenue" ways
around the Mona Vale Warriewood area.
Not sure yet how they happened (may have been a copy/paste type issue) -
not sure.
___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
When I said that Gosmore (YourNavgation) website had done something stupid,
I was wrong.
It was the data that was incorrect. I have fixed the data to make the acute
angle , where the two carriageways meet up, far more acute (which agrees
with the imagery.
Once the Yournavigation site updates
"My suggestion is that the map data is the best place to store that
information."
Actually - the wiki page is very specific on this.
"When a particular turn restriction is *the default* for a given
jurisdiction *and* is *not signed* *don't map them*. It is much better to
ensure that routing
"I'm assuming you mean the Intersection with Lane Cove Rd.
If so it's not permitted to make a u-turn here anyway, as there is no
sign permitting u-turns at the traffic signals.
So I'd not add it as a restriction as anyone driving there should know
that they can not make a u-turn there."
Ok -
"I'm assuming you mean the Intersection with Lane Cove Rd."
No - the intersection with Chiltern Street although it looks as though
someone has just added it.
___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
What do people think about the intersection at
-33.6793339 151.264475
The road geometry clearly indicates that there is no way you can do a turn
from Moan Vale Road Eastbound back down Mona Vale Road Westbound, yet there
are no signs saying so and I believe that most routers would suggest
Actually. primary roads are of equal need for fixing. Maybe only trunk and
motorways are reasonably accurate routing wise.
___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Secondary roads often have high speed limits and are connected to low speed
residential roads. This can cause issues with cars slowing in front of fast
moving cars and cars crossing in front of traffic.
For this reason there are many intersections on secondary roads that have
no-u-turn or
I've yet to find a product for Windows Phone that does TTS. Navmii does it
only on Android and Ios. Maybe Scout does but it is not available in
Australia.
OsmAnd (and the $8 upgrade OsmAnd+) is brilliant. The offline maps and
offline Wikipedia POI's make this a must have item for all tourists.
I have tried OsmAnd and Magic Earth on Android and Magic Earth on IOs and
they seem to work well, althouth Magic Earth did some crazy routing. I
will compare the same route on OsmAnd Magic Earth and Garmin (OSM maps) and
OsmR to see if it is a data problem or routing issue.
I still haven't got
I just tried Scout again (on the iphone) and it didn't do TTS
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
I've already tried Navmii on my windows phone. I like it a lot but it
doesn't do TTS (Spoken Street names) - as far as I can tell.
I've tried scout on my iPhone (a few years ago - overseas) . From memory,
it did TTS but let itself down in late turn announcements. Also you can't
purchase the
Is there any navigation software (for a Mobile phone) that uses offline OSM
data and also has spoken street names?
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Yes, many thanks Eric,
This facility will result in significant improvements to the US OSM data.
Cheers
Nick
___
Talk-us mailing list
Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Excellent job Steve,
I believe that house addresses is the only thing missing from OSM that is
stopping it from becoming the mainstream mapping data of choice!
I’ve always been interested in how to collect addresses, which can be a
time consuming and difficult task. Walking around a
Mike wrote
I am trying to use Map Roulette for the Fix Waterway Direction challenge.
It seems that after processing a couple of issues, it fails to advance to
the next issue. I am using Chrome and editing in JOSM.
Hi MIke,
I believe that it is a problem with cache control and a workaround is
Maybe you could get some students at UNSW to fire up a quad-copter with a
go pro on it and get some up-to-date rectified imagery
to check against their maps, then edit in any changes/improvement.
Nick
___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Mike wrote Since the new roads were flagged, I was able to bring them into
OSM.
(All manually checked for connectivity, smoothing, etc).
Is ther a way to use TIGER 2014 in JOSM yet.
___
Talk-us mailing list
Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
Richard Welty wrote the question is how much work are you willing to do to
use it.
The answer is simple - verry little.
I've been doing quite a lot of armchair mapping recently.
1) Pushing crazy TIGER roads around in residential and rural areas.
2) Adding missing roads in Las Vegas (and adding
I just tried to add some more Victoria missing road names but can't get the
Vicmap imagery working in either JOSM or Potlatch.
Does it still work for anyone else
Nick
___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Thanks all,
Got it working in JOSM now. (Just had a little error in the URL).
Nick
___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Regarding the Address data potential import.
The Vic Map data is already available for import and it contains the
address info for all of Victoria. (as well as tons of roads missing from
OSM)
I think this would be the best source of address data to import.
While people work out how to remove the multitude of tiger ways that don't
actually exist, downgrade others from the incorrect residential to
unclassified or track
depending on imagery or ground survey, and fix the geometry of all unedited
TIGER data, I beleive that it's absolutely essential (from
Keith wrote
Sounds like you fixed this quickly. Would you mind explaining the steps in
detail you took to achieve this? Thanks
I decided to use a set of common abbreviations of
Ct
St
Ave
Dr
Ln
Pl
Pkwy
Cl
Cir
Rd
In Australia I'd propably add Cct (Circuit) to the list.
Then for the first Ct
stevea wrote,
though there are problems in the west, like Las Vegas
Ok - I think I've fixed all of these in Las Vegas (there were a few
thousand).
It's amazing how simple they are to find using the overpass api (and
overpass turbo).
Nick
___
Talk-us
Stecea wrote though there are problems in the west, like Las Vegas
Hi,
I've just come back from a holiday to Las Vegas where I surveyed as many
unamed streets and new neighbourhoods (that are not named in TIGER 2013)
as I could find.
Hopefully this means that OSM now has the best road data of
Am I correct in saying that it is permissable to copy street names from the
VicMap into OSM?
Also - what about the house numbers, is that ok as well?
I have neither the time, talent or inclination to do an import of house
numbers, but would help out in any manual effort to add all house numbers
Steve wrote
IMHO some small scale imports may be useful, but from my comparisons, the
VicMap data is not necessarily better than OSM. It often has stuff OSM
doesn't, but sometimes that includes spurious stuff like roads that no
longer exist, never did, etc.
Thanks Steve,
As far as importing
Hi Mark,
The B58 (according to the signs) continues right down to the Hume Weir
(including Murray Street).
C542 continues over the bridge and right up to the intersection with B58. I
have amended these on OSM and added in a few road names in the area.
Unfortunately my car broke down three time
Hi Mark,
Holbrook looks great, thanks. I'll check on B58 and while in Albury I'll
grab a few more street signs for some of the unnamed streets.
I won't bother with Wodonga since once the Vicmap data is available for
JOSM I can add them all then.
Nick
Hi Arthur, mark,
About four weeks ago I went down to Melbourne, for a bike ride and did have
my GPS on through Holbrook. I saw someone had put the bypass in so I didn't
think to check it. I've just uploaded my GPS and it matches the other one
very well and is substantially different to the
http://www.gazette.vic.gov.au/gazette/Gazettes2013/GG2013S204.pdf
Not sure what all this is about but may be of interest (it does mention
Diggers Way).
___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Hi Neil,
I think the way to get this fixed permanently could be...
Fix it one more time, re-add the note saying that the imagery is out of
date and that this intersection has been surveyed.
Change the source tag from nearmap to survey.
Now even though one of the mnappers has a fairly colourful
Hi Li
I'm convinced that you will find that it is practically impossible to mass
import (or even mass merge) a new road dataset into existing data when
there is a large amount of existing data. The only practical way would be
to delete all of the Victorian data and start again with the mass
and Bing
imagery in helping to fix up the horrible original TIGER data but would
love to be helping in fixing up Australia.
Nick Hocking
Canberra
___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Hi
The other day I was riding the push bike along some trails and got talking
to some horse riders.
It turns out the Lady (Jenny) is the ACT coordinator for (and also the
secretary of) the Bicentennial National Trail Ltd. Naturally I dropped the
term Openstreetmap and it appears that they are
Hi
The other day I was riding the push bike along some trails and got talking
to some horse riders.
It turns out the Lady (Jenny) is the ACT coordinator for (and also the
secretary of) the Bicentennial National Trail Ltd. Naturally I dropped the
term Openstreetmap and it appears that they are
It may be that what is happening is that NE2 is deliberately trying to
start an edit war so that he will be allowed back onto this list to discuss
it.
If, as seems to be the case, the bulk of his edits are destructive and need
to be reverted, then the sensible thing to do may be to put an auto
Richard wrote
So if it interests you, have a go at it.
It does interest me and I will have a go at it (eventually). However I
have a few more pressing issues (OSMwise). We urgently need to complete
the street name reclamation of Australia.
To this end I will be mapping Hay and Narrandra in the
Hi Alex,
My view on all this is that if a place has officially been designated as a
city then we must tag it as such. If it is offically a town then we must
tag it as a town etc.
If we can't find any official designation then either common sense of maybe
a state specific rule could be applied.
According to
NSW Government Gazette 1885, vol. I. NSW Government. 1885-03-20
Goulburn was officially proclaimed a City on 20 March 1885
This user has changed Goulburn from a city to a town amazing
___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Ian Steer wrote
I think this is good because no matter
which way you go through the intersection, you only pass one set of lights
(rather than 2 if they were placed on the actual intersecting nodes).
Couldn't a smart traffic light counter detect dual carrageways and just
add a single signal,
Sorry folks, I was having too much fun in Port Macquarie and only got to
map for a short while.
I did some roads near the racecourse although most of these were never
named in OSM before. On my returm trip I will make a more determined
effort to re-map the rest of Port Macquarie.
I have made a
I see that Port Macquarie and Wauchope need quite a bit of remedial work
done on them. On my way to the Pan-Pac Games this week, I am going to try
to acheive some of this.
I started by realigning those roads that redaction had caused to misalign.
Then I traced in those roads that went missing. I
David wrote
A lot of the locations are towns that only existed for a short time
and many are ones that never existed, or existed just in the mind of a
planner.
Yes - this absolutely epitomises the main problem of most imports.
Here we have 19,000 bits of data that are almost certainly
Hi all,
I'm going to be at the Gold Coast for the week of November 3-10 for the Pan
Pacific Masters Games.
Although I'm registered in 3 different sports, I intend to spend at least
one day (and some bits and pieces) reading as many Gold Coast street signs
as possible.
I'll be starting around the
Does this mean tha the openstreetmap website/database will not be
accessable in China. If so then we can get no more edits from there.
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
John wrote I've been giving you a bit of a hand there, but mainly outside
Canberra
Thanks John, all help very much appreciated. Once I finish Canberra I
will start helping out to clear keep right errors in Sydney.
Keep right is the best method, in m,y view, since it gives immediate
feedback
Ben wrote Also, thank you for fixing those track sections at St Marys. Do
you know what happened there?
Given there was a derailment there 2 months ago, I find
this a spooky co-incidence...
Co-incidently I was in Sydney for the day, on that day, for a work meeting
and as I
I wish to transport a long thinnish somewhat fragile wooden object from
Sydney to Canberra behind steam locomotive 1210. Given that there some
tunnels along the way, is the mapping in OSM accurate enough in terms of
bendiness to calculate (given a known width of tunnel) whether the wooden
object
Alex wrote
or a question about loading gauges that the ARTC might better answer?
Yes it would be better for ARTC to answer but before I bother them I would
like to know if it is at all feasable. Specifically, I am concerned that
one of the tunnels between Queanbeyan and Bungendore may well be
Actually, I've just had a go with a 50 metre stick insect in JOSM and it
is REALLY touch and go (or is that touch and stay).
Nick
___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Russell wrote you could at least work out a minimum radius of curvature
OK - what I will do is find out the tunnel width.
Then I'll assume that we offload the objecty just before the tunnel and
walk it through with the object rotated 90 degrees through the long axis.
I'll do as you suggest and
Ok - my initial drawings, using JOSM and a tunnel width of 3 metres show
that this could end up being a matter of inches. I really have to find out
exact dimensions of the object and whether there is any flexability in it
so that we could bend it around the tunnel.
Also, if two tunnels are such a
Hi ben
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/debug.html?view=routing_non_eulon=150.82846lat=-33.7503zoom=15opacity=0.98
gets the routing outside europe ( I had the same problem and went looking
for this url)
.
http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?schema=50error=38081608
paints an even gloomier
Ben wrote
'Classic. You know you've got an OSM addiction problem when... '
What!! - I've only got 28 GPS units, at last count :-)
Actually, with so many unit on me when I ride the bike (3 or 4) I thought
I'd try to see if they interfered with each other. I believe this is why
some airlines
Grant wrote Have you noticed faster tiles this week?
Certainly have.Many thanks Kris
Ive just spent 5 hours editing in my mapping travels from today so the
faster tile server really helped out. It is really fast.
Ive also been fixing hundreds of keep right errors in Canberra, so Fast
I think the most necessary cleanup to the USA OSM data is to clean up all
the crazy unedited original Tiger roads.
These can easily be identified simply as those ways that have a name but
are still the original Tiger data and have not been edited. (except for the
balrog-kun bot). You could just
oldtopos wrote
I will also point out that the connectivity errors I mentioned earlier are,
in fact, largely a result of unedited TIGER data
I'd be happy to go along with a flavour of a connect-a-tron. It's very
hard not to clean up an entire neighbourhood/s when crazy TIGER roads are
spotted
Level 3
Tiger 2012 roads, that are named, that don't have a corresponding OSM way
with similar naming and similar geometry.
This would pick up new 2012 Tiger roads, and unedited original Tiger named
roads which were of poor quality.
Level 4
Tiger unedited roads that are highway residential and
Hi all,
I've just oredered a ticket for this. I live in Australia but I hope it's
ok if I attend a local chapter event like this.
I do have some US credentials. I've driven and mapped extensively in
California, and Colarado and Nevada and armchairmapped in a few other
states as well.
I believe
1 - 100 of 303 matches
Mail list logo