Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cycleways tag as oneway=yes ?

2014-11-12 Thread Jakka
Marc Gemis schreef op 12/11/2014 om 5:34: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:36 PM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote: e) the word fuzzy is removed from OSM, at least for routing, that is. Could you be less fuzzy ? :-) and please list the actions one

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cycleways tag as oneway=yes ?

2014-11-12 Thread Marc Gemis
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Jakka vdmfrank...@gmail.com wrote: Very interesting. Something that seems easy and used from the early days of OSM is sensitive for personal interpret. Good link: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle#Cycle_lanes_in_ oneway_motor_car_roads image with

[OSM-talk-be] Cycleways tag as oneway=yes ?

2014-11-11 Thread Jakka
Tried out route planner for bikes and saw in my region that the planner takes the wrong side of the road. https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=50.788276%2C3.133957point=Kortrijkstraat%2C%208930%2C%20Menin%2C%20Belgiumvehicle=bikeelevation=truelayer=Lyrk The roundabout I will correct it to

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cycleways tag as oneway=yes ?

2014-11-11 Thread Jakka
This roundabout was already in the sytem with all the details separated footway, cycle way, highway. hope better link. (How taken a link of josm screen ? permalink?) https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=50.788276%2C3.133957point=50.794787%2C3.137348vehicle=bikeelevation=truelayer=Lyrk Marc

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cycleways tag as oneway=yes ?

2014-11-11 Thread Glenn Plas
I think the correct key is : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:oneway:bicycle Since it is standard to allow bicycles to use both direction, also in a one-way street it's allowed unless specifically restricted. Glenn On 11-11-14 11:41, Jakka wrote: Tried out route planner for bikes

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cycleways tag as oneway=yes ?

2014-11-11 Thread Glenn Plas
Sorry but oneway=yes just means you can only drive in the direction of the way. It has nothing to do with going opposite. I quote: The oneway tag is used to indicate the access restriction on highways and other linear features as appropriate. So it's an access restriction. On highway=cycleway

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cycleways tag as oneway=yes ?

2014-11-11 Thread Glenn Plas
Gilbert, Dit is geen discussie over de wegcode maar over de betekenis van tags en het resultaat ervan. Het intereseert me zelfs niet wat de wegcode ervan vindt in het kader van deze materie. Ik heb het dus niet over de wegcode maar over de betekenis van de keys. Laat dit duidelijk zijn dat

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cycleways tag as oneway=yes ?

2014-11-11 Thread Glenn Plas
This is actually quite interesting road to dive in deeper. I notice a few problems with this roundabout. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26707718#map=19/50.78871/3.13953 There is no connection between Moeskroenstraat en the cycleway. This would pop up when Validating changes before

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cycleways tag as oneway=yes ?

2014-11-11 Thread Gilbert Hersschens
Glenn, ik zie nergens een cycleway op http://osm.org/go/0EgP1kjK2?m=way=109638123 ? (ook n iet in JOSM) 2014-11-11 14:52 GMT+01:00 Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.be: Gilbert, Dit is geen discussie over de wegcode maar over de betekenis van tags en het resultaat ervan. Het intereseert me

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cycleways tag as oneway=yes ?

2014-11-11 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-11-11 16:49, Gilbert Hersschens wrote : @André: pls read again (you provided the link yourself): Some tags (such as junction http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:junction=roundabout http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction%3Droundabout, highway

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cycleways tag as oneway=yes ?

2014-11-11 Thread Glenn Plas
I noticed my misinterpretation myself indeed - after the facts. My bad. I wasn't claiming that oneway=yes doesn't apply to cyclists, I was saying that the 'wegcode' actually allows bicycles to use the cycleway in the opposite direction. - and that was totally wrong after deeper researching. So

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cycleways tag as oneway=yes ?

2014-11-11 Thread Glenn Plas
2 problems: You're not checking the roundabout I think we were talking about. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/50.78823/3.14081 Check in JOSM for the latest data. The tiles do not get regenerated at the changeset rate. It will take some time to proliferate. That's exactly why we talking

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cycleways tag as oneway=yes ?

2014-11-11 Thread André Pirard
Hi, highway=cycleway is distinct from another highway=* and uses its own distinct oneway=* oneway bicycle exceptions in the same highway are described here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Oneway#Sub_keys_.2F_exceptions. The mapping of cycleway=* alongside a oneway highway=* is described here

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cycleways tag as oneway=yes ?

2014-11-11 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-11-11 17:57, Glenn Plas wrote : ... That's exactly why we talking next to eachother. Jakka worked on it, I did a few fixes + validation. Then I fixed my own mistakes in fixing Yes, that reminds me - look at that mistake - I don't see any - that's because I corrected it Yes,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cycleways tag as oneway=yes ?

2014-11-11 Thread Marc Gemis
Jakka, please do not use ways to represent lanes. The Moeskroenstraat coming from the east (before the roundabout) should not be split until you see the white divider at the last moment. Before that it should be tagged as lanes=2, turn:lanes=none|slight_right or through|slight_right I have been

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cycleways tag as oneway=yes ?

2014-11-11 Thread Marc Gemis
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 2:40 PM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Wonderful router you're showing. Does it use often updated data? I thought the routing data was updated daily, the map is updated more frequent. Remember that this router does not honor turn restrictions at this

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cycleways tag as oneway=yes ?

2014-11-11 Thread Glenn Plas
Andre, In case you look for more routers, try this one. It's very fast, I consider it a light weight one. There still work to be done on it, not perfect but worth diving into it. http://www.routino.org Glenn On 11-11-14 19:16, Marc Gemis wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 2:40 PM, André