Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-09 Thread Pierre Béland
Stewart C. Russell Cc : Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Envoyé le : jeudi 9 mars 2017 9h09 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries and just to add to the confusion Canada Post has its own set of rules.  For example my official Canada Post address is Orleans yet no such municipality or town has ev

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-09 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Canada Post can be ignored, luckily, when it comes to municipal boundaries. statscan's municipal boundaries are handy because it's country-wide and we have a license agreement with them. I don't think the boundaries with be an import in the true sense, more of a guide that allows us to more easily

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-09 Thread john whelan
and just to add to the confusion Canada Post has its own set of rules. For example my official Canada Post address is Orleans yet no such municipality or town has ever existed. There are other examples of Canada Post giving areas names. Cheerio John On 9 March 2017 at 08:55, Stewart C. Russell

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-09 Thread Stewart C. Russell
Hi Kevin - > CSDs are legal boundaries - I.e. the legal boundary of a lower tier > municipality. I was a bit confused by terminology - I thought that Bjenk was referring to LCTs. The one I live in looks like this: https://gist.github.com/scruss/e4778dfc3a0ea5261581e688c4332c93 It's bounded by E

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread Adam Martin
uot; > Date: 2017-03-07 1:21 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: James > Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap > Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries > > And even then, not all CSDs are municipalities. In Nova Scotia for > instance they have "county subdivisions" which have no legal

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread Denis Carriere
remove the need > for extremely redundant addr tags that are used for cities. > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > > Original message > From: "J.P. Kirby" > Date: 2017-03-07 1:21 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: James > Cc: Talk-CA OpenS

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread kevinfarrugia
ubject: Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries And even then, not all CSDs are municipalities. In Nova Scotia for instance they have "county subdivisions" which have no legal standing at all and are just StatsCan creations. I'd suggest boundaries of actual municipalities are worthy of being

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread Bjenk Ellefsen
>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry for the questions, I am trying to understand what is the >>>>>>> classification used if its not the CSDs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:11 AM, James w

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread J.P. Kirby
And even then, not all CSDs are municipalities. In Nova Scotia for instance they have "county subdivisions" which have no legal standing at all and are just StatsCan creations. I'd suggest boundaries of actual municipalities are worthy of being added into OSM, but not all CSDs fit that bill. S

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread kevinfarrugia
eetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries On 2017-03-07 10:36 AM, Bjenk Ellefsen wrote: > > … Any more thoughts? If you're planning to import/add abstract statistical boundaries, rather than those defined by municipal boundaries, then I'd suggest that they don't bel

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread James
CSDs are suppose to represent city/town limits (observable as usually there's a sign that says Welcome to X or Sorry to see you leave X), but they have been rounded off to look nice and may not reflect what it is in reality On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > On 2017-03-0

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2017-03-07 10:36 AM, Bjenk Ellefsen wrote: > > … Any more thoughts? If you're planning to import/add abstract statistical boundaries, rather than those defined by municipal boundaries, then I'd suggest that they don't belong in OSM. “Contributions to OpenStreetmap should be: 1. Truthful -

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread Denis Carriere
: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Bernie, I've also noticed that StatsCan boundaries seem to be a >>>>>>> generalization of an area vs the actual city limits >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Bernie

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread Bjenk Ellefsen
gt;>>>>> In NB there are issues with some census boundaries not >>>>>>> matching with our administrative boundaries. The issue I am aware of was >>>>>>> with the county boundaries. The census data that is analogous to our >>>>

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread James
t;>>>> >>>>>> In NB there are issues with some census boundaries not matching >>>>>> with our administrative boundaries. The issue I am aware of was with the >>>>>> county boundaries. The census data that is analo

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread James
gt; with our administrative boundaries. The issue I am aware of was with the >>>>> county boundaries. The census data that is analogous to our county >>>>> boundaries included some significant deviations to prevent a municipality >>>>> from being bisect

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread Paul Ramsey
;>> boundaries included some significant deviations to prevent a municipality >>>> from being bisected by a county boundary. Please be careful that there is >>>> not a similar issue with the CSD boundaries. NB municipal boundaries can be >>>>

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread Begin Daniel
, 2017 09:20 To: James Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries Just to make sure we are talking about the same thing: Census Divisions are higher level and more regional boundaries. CSDs are municipal boundaries (in OSM, level 8). http://www.statcan.gc.ca/eng/subjects

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread James
boundaries included some significant deviations to prevent a municipality >>>> from being bisected by a county boundary. Please be careful that there is >>>> not a similar issue with the CSD boundaries. NB municipal boundaries can be >>>> downloaded from

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread James
oaded from the GeoNB Data Catalogue For comparison to the CSD data. >>> >>> Bernie. >>> >>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network. >>> *From: *Bjenk Ellefsen >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 7, 2017 9:51 AM >>> *To: *talk-ca@o

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread Bjenk Ellefsen
ata. >> >> Bernie. >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network. >> *From: *Bjenk Ellefsen >> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 7, 2017 9:51 AM >> *To: *talk-ca@openstreetmap.org >> *Subject: *[Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries >> >> Hello, &g

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Morning Bjenk, Just a heads up - municipal boundaries are best of they aren't just straight up imported because they're usually done as relations. For example, we generally add roads into the boundary relationship rather than overlapping boundary and roads. Here's one I did before: http://www.op

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread James
t; *To: *talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > *Subject: *[Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries > > Hello, > > Municipal boundaries correspond to census subdivisions (CSD). I have seen > that many municipalities do not have a boundary yet. Is it ok if I start > adding some boundaries based on C

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread Bernie Connors
Bjenk,      In NB there are issues with some census boundaries not matching with our administrative boundaries. The issue I am aware of was with the county boundaries. The census data that is analogous to our coun

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread James
Depends what boundaries you are talking about: City limits(admin_level=8) there are a few(usually main cities) as for neighbourhoods (admin_level=9) they are a rarity. On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Bjenk Ellefsen wrote: > Hello, > > Municipal boundaries correspond to census subdivisions (CSD).

[Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread Bjenk Ellefsen
Hello, Municipal boundaries correspond to census subdivisions (CSD). I have seen that many municipalities do not have a boundary yet. Is it ok if I start adding some boundaries based on CSDs? Having the boundaries is important to make extractions and analysis at the municipal level. Bjenk ___