Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-02-12 Thread Matthew Darwin
Phone number tidy-up is now complete, per the original discussion.  I think we still could clean up this list further I welcome any discussion in that regard.  Any phone numbers using letters instead of numbers remain with letters. The top 10 formats used in Canada are:   20640 phone"+#-#

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-02-07 Thread Matthew Darwin
A further update on this work: * I found more yet bizarre phone-related tags "phone:1", "telephone" and the like.  These have all been tidied.  My osmfilter now looks like this:    --keep="contact:*=* or phone*=* or Phone*=* or alt_phone=* or fax*=* or tty*=*"  Additional suggestions fo

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-02-07 Thread Matthew Darwin
Hi Stewart, I have no problem to make those edits, but would want others to chime in this discussion before I make that sort of change.   OTOH, If others want to make the change, then I stay out of it. On 2018-02-06 01:18 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: On 2018-02-05 05:17 PM, Matthew Darwin w

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-02-06 Thread Matthew Darwin
Hi Stewart, Thanks for your comment. I'm relatively new to OSM, so I don't have all the history, so I appreciate you and others jumping in. I saw the discussion page when I started working on this.  However, it is from 2012, so I'm not clear if this represents current state or not. People ar

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-02-06 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2018-02-05 05:17 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: > > use the letters instead of numbers "+1-555-GOT-BEER" I'd suggest mapping these to the numbers BUT international phone pads have a superset of what we use here (7 has Q and 9 has Z) and older phones may not be consistent with what we assume now. In

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-02-06 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2018-02-05 04:44 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: > I don't know why people use phone=* vs contact:phone=* Because it's the default in most editors, and it's shorter. I'd prefer it over contact:phone, because that's a needless namespace. Also, this: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:con

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-02-05 Thread Matthew Darwin
From the wiki, I am proposing this format specifically: (phone=+--, following the RFC 3966/NANP pattern) However, convert that to "contact:phone=" instead. The reason I like the one with hypens (vs spaces) is that when you add additional comments in the fi

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-02-05 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Hey, a discussion for multi-contact and phone tag semantics-meets-syntax. Excellent! Note how our tag:phone wiki https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Key:phone hews pretty strongly to ITU-T E.164. That is a goal to shoot for, as what it calls "user agents" is what I referred to as "a phone number parser

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-02-05 Thread Matthew Darwin
After editing a few thousand phone numbers in the last week, my preferred format is *contact:phone=+#-###-###-** * My reason is that people are starting to use other tags from the contact:* family so cannot move everything to phone=*, and having both phone=* and contact:phone=* seems unreas

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-02-04 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
On Feb 4, 2018, at 8:37 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: > Just an update on this activity. Again, nice work! > Here are the top 20 tags as of ~4pm ET Sunday: > > 10669 phone"+#-###-###- >4392 phone"+# ###-###- >4206 phone"###-###- >2970 phone"+# ### ### >2540 phone"

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-02-04 Thread Matthew Darwin
Just an update on this activity. * I see people have been quite creative with the tags used for phone numbers, so it is taking me a bit longer to clean up than I originally thought.   Good to find all these weird tags: Phone, alt_phone, phone_1, phone_2, phone:tollfree, phone:toll-free,

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-01-31 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
> • There are additionally ~45 phone numbers that use letters instead of > digits (eg 1-555-GOT-BEER) > • ";" separator is used occasionally to indicate multiple phone > numbers. " ", "," and "/" are also used. > • There are random comments in the phone number field (not sure w

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-01-31 Thread Matthew Darwin
Hi all, So we get a sense of what phone number formats people are using, I pulled all the *phone* and *contact:phone *tags from OSM in Canada.  The top 10 formats used are:    8819 phone"+#-###-###-    4321 phone"###-###-    4298 phone"+# ###-###-    3012 phone"+# ### ###   

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-01-28 Thread Matthew Darwin
Just FYI, I am not doing an automated edit.  One at a time in JOSM. On 2018-01-28 10:23 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: On 2018-01-28 08:22 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: I am wondering if I should have them in the format of "+1 999 555 1234" or "+1-999-555-1234".    If there is no existing preference

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-01-28 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2018-01-28 08:22 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: > I am wondering if I should have them in the format of "+1 999 > 555 1234" or "+1-999-555-1234".    If there is no existing preference > adopted in OSM Canada, I will use the latter to cleanup the > non-compliant phone numbers. > > Comments? Please u

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-01-28 Thread James
personally I prefer: RFC 3966/NANP pattern as its more commonly used for telephone numbers(less the country code(unless long distance). Especially in white pages(back in the day we had paper copies) On Jan 28, 2018 8:24 PM, "Matthew Darwin" wrote: > Hi all,