[Talk-GB] Protecting the work - Probation?

2009-07-21 Thread Godfrey Bartlett
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Re: [Talk-GB] Amenities

2009-07-21 Thread Jack Stringer
The idea lets say is we know there are 500 police stations in the uk but so far we only have 150 on the map. The added bonus is that if we have address/postcode data we can then add more postcodes to our own database on known locations of police stations. You have Police, Hospitals, Fast Food, Pu

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenities

2009-07-21 Thread Chris Hill
Jack Stringer wrote: > Well I have got a few replies to my e-mails to a few places. One of > which was Avon[1] & Somerset Police. > > If I was to gather a the lists of places that we should be making sure > are mapped onto the maps. Should I gather these up and put them into a > database for all

[Talk-GB] Amenities

2009-07-21 Thread Jack Stringer
Well I have got a few replies to my e-mails to a few places. One of which was Avon[1] & Somerset Police. If I was to gather a the lists of places that we should be making sure are mapped onto the maps. Should I gather these up and put them into a database for all to see/use. I have mySQL on my web

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread Mark Williams
Tom Hughes wrote: > On 21/07/09 14:02, Steve Hill wrote: > >> Some thoughts on sensible protections which could be implemented in the >> future: >> 1. The ability to ban a user from editing. > > This would be easy to add - at the moment we have to lock the account > completely. > >> 2. The abil

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread Tom Hughes
On 21/07/09 14:02, Steve Hill wrote: > Some thoughts on sensible protections which could be implemented in the > future: > 1. The ability to ban a user from editing. This would be easy to add - at the moment we have to lock the account completely. > 2. The ability to ban an IP address or range

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread Steve Hill
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Chris Fleming wrote: > It's also worth noting that if we ban him he may just go and open a new > account and continue... at least now we know what to keep an eye on. This is true. But it might also draw his attention to the problem and be the end of the matter. Some though

Re: [Talk-GB] Protecting the work - Probation?

2009-07-21 Thread Tom Hughes
On 21/07/09 13:39, Peter Miller wrote: > In this situation we have someone pouring duff information into the > map for fun and to see what we do about it. We do not have the > resources to revert them all one-by-one, especially has he turns up > and does new edits reasonably frequently. What we ne

[Talk-GB] Protecting the work - Probation?

2009-07-21 Thread Peter Miller
On 21 Jul 2009, at 13:17, Nick Allen wrote: > Hi, > > One persons edits have created much talk as we are all worried about > damage to the work that has been put into the project, and rightly so. > > When I started editing over a year ago I was worried (rightly on > occasion) that I was damaging

Re: [Talk-GB] Protecting the work - Probation?

2009-07-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Nick Allen wrote: > There is now a person who's current edits are causing alarm. This > situation could alter in the future & their work then will be valued. We > could currently be looking at a gifted 5 year old who will write a new > operating system for mapping systems in the future. Appr

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread Chris Fleming
On 21/07/09 10:26, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 21/07/09 10:05, Alice Kaerast wrote: > >> On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:00:25 +0100 (BST) >> Steve Hill wrote: >> >> >>> If there is a user who (by general consensus) is making nonsense >>> edits and is continuing to do so after having been taken to ta

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread Peter Miller
On 21 Jul 2009, at 12:15, David Earl wrote: > Dave Stubbs wrote: >> I really hope that this >>central working group doesn't get distracted by every clown in the >>world who messes with an area for a few hours after an evening in >>the pub! >> Most disappear quite happily without furth

[Talk-GB] Protecting the work - Probation?

2009-07-21 Thread Nick Allen
Hi, One persons edits have created much talk as we are all worried about damage to the work that has been put into the project, and rightly so. When I started editing over a year ago I was worried (rightly on occasion) that I was damaging rather than contributing, and this actually made it harder

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread David Earl
Dave Stubbs wrote: > I really hope that this > central working group doesn't get distracted by every clown in the > world who messes with an area for a few hours after an evening in > the pub! > > Most disappear quite happily without further interaction. The community > can handle the

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Peter Miller wrote: > > On 21 Jul 2009, at 10:24, Tom Hughes wrote: > > On 21/07/09 10:10, Peter Miller wrote: >> >> I am not hearing anyone saying we should not revert all Liam123's edits >>> for which he is still the most recent editor. Can someone do it? >>>

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread Peter Childs
2009/7/21 Tom Hughes : > > I'm still not clear on what this user has been doing and what the > evidence is that it is indeed malicious. This whole thread started with > the statement that "Liam123 is still active unfortunately" which implies > there is some history, but I have no memory of that hi

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread Peter Miller
On 21 Jul 2009, at 10:24, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 21/07/09 10:10, Peter Miller wrote: > >> I am not hearing anyone saying we should not revert all Liam123's >> edits >> for which he is still the most recent editor. Can someone do it? > > That will be up to the Data Working Group surely? Possib

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread Tom Hughes
On 21/07/09 10:05, Alice Kaerast wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:00:25 +0100 (BST) > Steve Hill wrote: > >> If there is a user who (by general consensus) is making nonsense >> edits and is continuing to do so after having been taken to task by >> email, I would have thought the first thing to do

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread Tom Hughes
On 21/07/09 10:10, Peter Miller wrote: > I am not hearing anyone saying we should not revert all Liam123's edits > for which he is still the most recent editor. Can someone do it? That will be up to the Data Working Group surely? > Should we set up a vandalism response process and team for Engla

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread Peter Miller
On 21 Jul 2009, at 10:05, Alice Kaerast wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:00:25 +0100 (BST) > Steve Hill wrote: > > >> If there is a user who (by general consensus) is making nonsense >> edits and is continuing to do so after having been taken

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread Peter Miller
On 21 Jul 2009, at 09:31, Dave Stubbs wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:16 AM, David Earl > wrote: For the record: I agree with Peter that we need to undo this user's changes, however it is done, and that it could cause large parts of East Anglia to be wiped out if data that happened to have h

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread Alice Kaerast
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:00:25 +0100 (BST) Steve Hill wrote: > If there is a user who (by general consensus) is making nonsense > edits and is continuing to do so after having been taken to task by > email, I would have thought the first thing to do

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread Steve Hill
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, David Earl wrote: > He keeps coming back, day after day, making nonsense edits, but not in a > random way. It's not just scribbling. (Disclaimer: I've not done any work in the areas affected, haven't looked at the user's edits and so have no specific opinion on whether the u

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:16 AM, David Earl wrote: > For the record: I agree with Peter that we need to undo this user's > changes, however it is done, and that it could cause large parts of East > Anglia to be wiped out if data that happened to have his name on were to > be removed because of the

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread David Earl
For the record: I agree with Peter that we need to undo this user's changes, however it is done, and that it could cause large parts of East Anglia to be wiped out if data that happened to have his name on were to be removed because of the license process. We need a way to deal with this. He ke

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Peter Miller wrote: > there are two ways to removed vandalism [...] the first is to repair > the damage by moving things back to where they should be and > re-entering the correct information in tags, the other is to revert > the data to before the person touched it. While it would theoretic