Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-11-28 Thread Gregrs
eld. > > So far I've been using "FHRS" rather than the full name expansion. > -- > Be Seeing You - Rob. > If at first you don't succeed, > then skydiving isn't for you. > From: Gregrs <gre...@fastmail.co.uk> > Sent: 28 November 2016 22:15:23 > To: Rober

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-11-28 Thread Robert Norris
't for you. From: Gregrs <gre...@fastmail.co.uk> Sent: 28 November 2016 22:15:23 To: Robert Norris Cc: Talk GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project Thanks Rob. I hope you don't mind me CC'ing the Talk-GB list. I've updated the wiki page [http://wiki.openst

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-11-28 Thread Gregrs
Thanks Rob. I hope you don’t mind me CC’ing the Talk-GB list. I’ve updated the wiki page [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Food_Hygiene_Rating_System] a bit but the recommendations for tagging are a bit out of date compared with what’s been discussed on the list more recently. It seems

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-11-16 Thread Greg
Hi all, The OSM data for the FHRS comparison tool > hasn’t been updated for a few days because – as Robert Whittaker mentioned – the Geofabrik extract hasn’t been updated in that time. You can of course

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-11-13 Thread Dave F
Thanks Steve Surprised by that. I thought the Lat/Lon were calculated direct from the postcode centroid On 13/11/2016 18:27, Steve Doerr wrote: On 13/11/2016 10:49, Dave F wrote: Could you clarify how the 'distant matches' are calculated? I'm confused by a couple of the errors it's thrown

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-11-13 Thread Steve Doerr
On 13/11/2016 10:49, Dave F wrote: Could you clarify how the 'distant matches' are calculated? I'm confused by a couple of the errors it's thrown up: http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/district-270.html 'Sam Wellers', 'Longvernal Primary School' (at the very bottom). Their fhrs:ids

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-11-13 Thread Dave F
Greg Thanks for the updates. They look like they will be useful. Could you clarify how the 'distant matches' are calculated? I'm confused by a couple of the errors it's thrown up: http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/district-270.html 'Sam Wellers', 'Longvernal Primary School' (at the

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-11-13 Thread Greg
Dear all, The FHRS/OSM comparison tool > has some new features which should help with the Autumn Quarterly Project

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-11-06 Thread Greg
Hi Phil, The aim of the project is for mappers to use the FHRS data to improve the density of POIs, addresses and postcodes in town centres (see ). My comparison tool considers an FHRS establishment to be successfully

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-11-06 Thread Greg
The problem with Birmingham, Glasgow and Leeds only having max. 5000 FHRS establishments is now fixed. Happy mapping! Greg > On 6 Nov 2016, at 14:11, Greg wrote: > > Hi all, > > The FHRS/OSM comparison tool

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-11-06 Thread ael
On Sun, Nov 06, 2016 at 02:11:58PM +, Greg wrote: > Hi all, > > The FHRS/OSM comparison tool is > updating correctly again. Unfortunately I didn’t get a response from the FSA > but did manage to code a workaround, and the update script has run >

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-11-06 Thread Philip Barnes
Hi Greg There do seem to be a very large number in FHRS establishments with no matching OSM node/way that do have an OSM node. How is this match done? For example http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/318139689 Thanks Phil ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-11-02 Thread Greg
Hi all, Unfortunately the update script for the FHRS/OSM comparison tool failed last night. It appears that there is a problem with the FHRS API, which the tool uses to download FHRS information. I will investigate this issue further as soon as

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-14 Thread Dan S
Hi all, The "suggested matches" in greg's tool* has this useful "add tags in JOSM" link when you click on a dot. Does anyone know of a way to do this in bulk? (Yes I'm aware of the perils of bulk edits - just want to do what I would be doing anyway but with fewer clicks...) Cheers Dan * e.g.

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-13 Thread Dave F
On 11/10/2016 12:36, John Aldridge wrote: In most cases that involves filling in addr:postcode and fhrs:id on existing OSM features. I'm not, however, trusting that the postcode recorded on FHRS is accurate, and I'm not setting addr:postcode unless I can find corroborating information (e.g.

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-11 Thread John Aldridge
On 10-Oct-16 20:26, Dan S wrote: Really sorry for the stupid question, but: what is a participant in this quarterly project actually supposed to *do*? I asked a similar question a week or so ago. From the responses I got, I don't think there is a single shared vision of the goals of this

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-10 Thread Dan S
Hi all, Really sorry for the stupid question, but: what is a participant in this quarterly project actually supposed to *do*? This page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_2016_Q4_Project:_Food_Hygiene_Ratings doesn't really say what action a mapper should take if they want to contribute. I

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-09 Thread Neil Matthews
Brilliant -- that'll make surveying a lot easier. As an aside -- I've noticed that a lot of local establishments often include their address (postcode) on menus posted outside -- or on alcohol "licences". Cheers, Neil On 09/10/2016 10:45, Greg wrote: Hi Neil, I've added the feature you

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-09 Thread Greg
Hi Neil, I've added the feature you requested. It's now possible to download various GPX files for each district, which should allow easier surveying on the ground. From tomorrow, it should also be possible to download a GPX file for OSM entities with invalid fhrs:ids too (i.e. the ones listed

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-04 Thread Greg
Just to say that I have increased the number of OSM tags used by my comparison tool (http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/) so you may see a sudden change in statistics for each district when the update script is run tonight. (The tool compares the FHRS data with any nodes/ways with an

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-04 Thread Greg
Hi Neil, I've added a couple of feature requests for you here: https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues If anyone else would like to suggest features or report bugs, please do visit the link above. I don't have time at the moment to improve the code much, but it would be good to have

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-03 Thread SK53
For some time I have personally been extending the not:name tag to record these type of errors/mismatches. Usually I do something like not:external_source:tag_name, thus original not:names would become something like not:oslocation:name=XXX. These are a) useful for other mappers (primary use

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-03 Thread Lester Caine
On 03/10/16 11:17, Jez Nicholson wrote: > I was about to say that the data has a good chance of fairly high > accuracy because it is generated from an active processthen I found > my first typo > :) http://ratings.food.gov.uk/business/en-GB/803334/ "Longhill Hight > School". We can of course

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-03 Thread Jez Nicholson
I was about to say that the data has a good chance of fairly high accuracy because it is generated from an active processthen I found my first typo :) http://ratings.food.gov.uk/business/en-GB/803334/ "Longhill Hight School". We can of course perform a service by reporting typos back. On Mon,

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-03 Thread Christian Ledermann
On 3 October 2016 at 10:07, Brian Prangle wrote: > Hi John > > The need for two sources of information is a only personal preference of > SK53. You can choose to follow it or not. > > Certainly we'd like to increase postcode and address data and this can be > entered from the

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-03 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi John The need for two sources of information is a only personal preference of SK53. You can choose to follow it or not. Certainly we'd like to increase postcode and address data and this can be entered from the fhsr data. It's likely to be accurate 95% of the time. Personally I think we can

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-03 Thread Jez Nicholson
Neil - the gregrs tool is open source https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm so we can raise issues and enhancement requestsbut cannot expect gregrs alone to do all the coding. Other people with python knowledge can assist in making changes. I personally would love to do so. Probably

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-02 Thread John Aldridge
On 02-Oct-16 17:30, SK53 wrote: My personal rules on this have always been two independent sources of information OR a survey... FHRS data should contain full address details most of the time, so there should be no need to add anything from the website other than the url... By url do you

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-02 Thread Neil Matthews
> 1.We have a great tool developed some time ago by gregrs, whose work we should really recognise by making use of it. Tool looks good, but is there any way to get a feature request: to identify items in the fhrs data that don't match to OSM in a

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-02 Thread SK53
My personal rules on this have always been two independent sources of information OR a survey. This is easy for schools, and harder for pubs just using aerial imagery & data from FHRS and/or Edubase. Groups of shops can often be identified from aerial imagery, and correctly associated with FHRS

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-02 Thread Dan S
2016-10-02 11:54 GMT+01:00 David Woolley : > On 02/10/16 10:56, John Aldridge wrote: >> >> Would one be breaking rules to copy that information to OSM? After all, >> the text on the web site will be, AIUI, copyright.) > > > The question would be whether or not there is

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-02 Thread David Woolley
On 02/10/16 10:56, John Aldridge wrote: Would one be breaking rules to copy that information to OSM? After all, the text on the web site will be, AIUI, copyright.) The question would be whether or not there is a database copyright involved. The actual facts that you are likely to want will

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-02 Thread John Aldridge
On 02-Oct-16 10:32, Jez Nicholson wrote: I have added the page to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Quarterly_Project I'm not quite clear what the concrete goals are here: is it just to add fhrs:id and addr:postcode tags to relevant establishments (and perhaps to map those

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-02 Thread Jez Nicholson
I have added the page to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Quarterly_Project - Jez On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 at 17:13 Brian Prangle wrote: > Hi everyone > > It seems that the idea that got most traction from discussions is to use Food > Hygiene Rating

[Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-09-30 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi everyone It seems that the idea that got most traction from discussions is to use Food Hygiene Rating data from the Food Standards Agency to improve the density of POIs, addresses and postcodes in town centres.(Town centres are not exclusive - it's just they'll