Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans & OSM

2019-11-04 Thread Edward Bainton
> as I understand it Sustrans near Derby changed their mapping to match what was in OSM So that is now in their GIS and so on OS and so OS needs to acknowledge OSM at osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/ncn? On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 18:29, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 04/11/2019 18:19, Edward Bainton wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans & OSM

2019-11-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/11/2019 18:19, Edward Bainton wrote: (much snippage) Sustrans appear to have moved the NCN routes off their own site altogether (perhaps not news to you), and link directly to osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/ncn . The behaviour is pretty horrible -

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans & OSM

2019-11-04 Thread Edward Bainton
Hi Dave F >From my own hour-long chat with a local volunteer manager I inferred two reasons for steering clear of OSM: - Unreliable, as you inferred. - Exposes Sustrans to risk. I wonder if that may be their response to anything they don't closely control. I asked whether there was an agreement

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans & OSM

2019-10-10 Thread Edward Bainton
Thanks Jez, that's all very encouraging. Local to me is Peterborough. Yes will definitely aim to progress this to a national-level conversation - I'll loop back here once it's clearer what they think their needs are. (or better on Loomio? Another OSM channel, who'd ha' thunk it ;) Ditto the NCN

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans & OSM

2019-10-10 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
(Could you please ensure replies are sent to the forum. Thanks) Roughly upto around 3-4 years ago, which is why I'm uncertain if a sponsorship arrangement is in place. DaveF On 10/10/2019 07:41, Edward Bainton wrote: Thanks for that. I will ask re any formal sponsorship etc May I ask how

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans & OSM

2019-10-10 Thread Jez Nicholson
Hi Ed, Good to see you lobbying on behalf of OSM. If they get really interested and you want to hook the national level organisation then give us a shout at OSMUK. BTW, where is 'local' for you? Looking on the bright side. Arguments *for* using OSM: 1. They/volunteers/helpers can add/edit

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans & OSM

2019-10-09 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
I've had the occasional limited discussions on social media. Arguments against using OSM fall into 1. Claim of no cost to use OS data as it's via local authority licensing. Unsure if it's all LAs 2. They "wanted to use mapping that had 100% reliable data for the users benefit." 3. Mild

[Talk-GB] Sustrans & OSM

2019-10-09 Thread Edward Bainton
Hi all I'm meeting the local Sustrans office next week as they've asked me to compile a 'map' of the NCN mileposts in my area (I think they really mean an inventory with locator maps). Obviously I'll be using OSM, and trying to get them to see the benefits of doing the same. OSM seems to be

[Talk-GB] Sustrans Cycle Maps - Copyright

2014-06-07 Thread Bogus Zaba
If you buy a Sustrans Cycle paper map, you can find the following statements under Credits: Whilst every effort has been made to ensure the accuracy of these maps, CycleCity Guides, Sustrans, their partners or OpenStreetMap cannot be held responsible for any errors or omissions Town centre

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans Cycle Maps - Copyright

2014-06-07 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 16:09:02 +0100 Bogus Zaba bog...@bogzab.plus.com wrote: Hello Bogus, This seems to be saying that use has been made in these maps of both OpenStreetMap data and OS data, but overall copyright is being claimed by CycleCity Guides and FourPoint Mapping. Does this make any

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans still using OS map data

2013-04-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Dave F. wrote: I presume someone within OSM has talked to them about it. Do they have a long term contract, or not consider our data complete enough? Seems a great shame a charity is paying for something that could be free. Some Sustrans maps are now made with OSM data - in particular, the

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans National Cycle Network Mileposts and Art

2009-06-11 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
for these. Treasure hunt time? Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of David Earl Sent: 08 June 2009 1:25 PM To: Ed Loach; osm-gb Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans National Cycle Network Mileposts and Art On 08/06/2009

[Talk-GB] Sustrans National Cycle Network Mileposts and Art

2009-06-08 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Sustrans GIS department has permitted OSM to have the list of their Millennium Mileposts (and also Artwork - coming later) that exists on the National_Cycle_Network. The full listing can be found in the wiki table linked below. Sustrans do not have accurate locations for their mileposts and art so

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans National Cycle Network Mileposts and Art

2009-06-08 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Sustrans do not have accurate locations for their mileposts and art so are interested in data gathered by OSM contributors. I'll try to get all the ones on the northern half of NCN 7 the weekend after next. Do we have an existing tagging scheme for

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans National Cycle Network Mileposts and Art

2009-06-08 Thread Ed Loach
Jonathan asked: Do we have an existing tagging scheme for these? Yes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_Kingdom_Nation al_Cycle_Network#Tagging_information Ed ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans National Cycle Network Mileposts and Art

2009-06-08 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/6/8 Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Sustrans do not have accurate locations for their mileposts and art so are interested in data gathered by OSM contributors. I'll try to get all the ones on the northern half of NCN 7 the

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans National Cycle Network Mileposts and Art

2009-06-08 Thread David Earl
On 08/06/2009 13:06, Ed Loach wrote: Jonathan asked: Do we have an existing tagging scheme for these? Yes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_Kingdom_National_Cycle_Network#Tagging_information That seems to be just mile posts. What about tagging the artwork? What

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans National Cycle Network Mileposts and Art

2009-06-08 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
David Earl wrote: Sent: 08 June 2009 1:25 PM To: Ed Loach; osm-gb Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans National Cycle Network Mileposts and Art On 08/06/2009 13:06, Ed Loach wrote: Jonathan asked: Do we have an existing tagging scheme for these? Yes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans long-distance routes

2009-01-05 Thread Gregory Williams
-Original Message- From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Richard Fairhurst Sent: 5 January 2009 10:48 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-GB] Sustrans long-distance routes As of this weekend we have our first

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans

2008-06-24 Thread Russ Phillips
Quoting Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So, my belief is that in realty recruiting sustrans people to our cause is unlikely to be very fruitful. Look instead for people with time on their hands, those still in education, bored professionals like me ;-) and the retired. Ah

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans

2008-06-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Russ Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Sent: 24 June 2008 1:57 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Sustrans Quoting Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So, my belief is that in realty recruiting sustrans people

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans

2008-06-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Russ Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sent: 24 June 2008 2:22 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Sustrans Quoting Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please don't be put of by any apparent negativity

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans

2008-06-24 Thread Russ Phillips
Quoting Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A simple card with the web address and the OSM logo would be perfect, I'm always needing the same but haven't got around to doing any. I'd add my name and an email address too so that the person can make contact again. Has anyone

[Talk-GB] Sustrans

2008-06-23 Thread Russ Phillips
Hi list, On Saturday, the wife I went to have a look at a local (Stoke on Trent) fun day, and got talking to the guy at the Sustrans stand, largely because I started looking at his maps. I'm not a cyclist, so I don't know a great deal about Sustrans, but I get the impression that there

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans

2008-06-23 Thread Andy Allan
There's a few Sustran's volunteer Rangers within the OSM community, myself included. We've tried various approaches to them with very little success. They seem to like having sucky maps on their website, charging a small fortune for maps that would be mostly unnecessary if the routes were properly

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans

2008-06-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Andy Allan wrote: Sent: 23 June 2008 6:16 PM To: Russ Phillips Cc: OSM GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans There's a few Sustran's volunteer Rangers within the OSM community, myself included. We've tried various approaches to them with very little success. They seem to like having sucky maps

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans

2008-06-23 Thread Russ Phillips
From: Andy Robinson \(blackadder-lists\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans A quiet revolution, with OSM showing how we might be better than what they have now seems to be the best approach and Andy's version of our data is one of the ways to prove that. And as Andy says

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans

2008-06-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Russ Phillips Sent: 23 June 2008 9:40 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans From: Andy Robinson \(blackadder-lists\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans A quiet revolution, with OSM showing how we might be better than what they have now seems