I guess the situation is different as the waterway changes in Ireland have
not caused disputes. The townland boundaries that are set by the commision
have not changed, but in osm we are changing them, and amending the
boundaries to suit the map rather than the official boundary,
Killian Driscoll
B
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Hi all,
Just as an aside, this sort of "waterways changing" happens in many
places. Ellis Island in New York (yes that one), is partially in the
US state of New York, and partially in New Jersey, due to land
reclaimation works and a dispute over the o
Hi, I just posted this incorrectly as a private message (first time to use
this system) - reposting again here to continue (possibly labour?!) the
point.
For example, for Lough Gara
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=53.9469&mlon=-8.4311#map=13/53.9469/-8.4311
there are about 150 archaeological mo
ARP was/is listed for any offshore islands which were above sea level at
high tide as far as I know. It doesn't mean that they were considered
townlands as such (if the name appears in italics on the map, then they
were considered to be extra-territorial.
One occasional issue with the Bing imagery
Thanks - Inishfale isn't a townland on the GIS layer I have (maybe an error
with that layer?). I wasn't doubting Beggerin was a townland! Just looking
for it: I found it on my GIS layer. I can't see the orig OS maps here
http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html for the Beggerin Island area. Are
th
You can check the online 1901 townland index (there is also a 1911
supplement at same site) and see Beggerin Island is listed:
http://www.histpop.org/ohpr/servlet/PageBrowser?path=Browse/Census%20%28by%20date%29/1901/Ireland&active=yes&mno=453&tocstate=expandnew&display=sections&display=tables&dis
I can't see the orig OS maps here http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html
for the Beggerin Island area. Are they available?
Killian Driscoll
Banting Postdoctoral Fellow
Département d'anthropologie
Université de Montréal
umontreal.academia.edu/KillianDriscoll
www.lithicsireland.ie
ca.linkedin.co
I guess the point is 'Inishfale Island' was never an official townland (at
least the name doesn't turn up on the online databases, I don't have access
to the print copy): the sites and monuments record uses 'Inisfale Island'
as the name. Is/was Beggerin Island a townland?
Killian Driscoll
Banting
On 15 May 2015 at 20:49, Killian Driscoll wrote:
>
> At the SW side of Lough Allen the pre-drainage scheme lake level contained
> an island called Inishfale Island with the townland of Derrynadooey to the
> west. This contains a national monument RO002-028 (
> http://webgis.archaeology.ie/Nationa
I read that thread, I figured there was something about it before, just
couldn't recall.
If I'm honest, I think my opinion has changed from the one I originally
stated in that thread on the basis that townland boundaries are changed
through statutory instruments only (as far as I am aware). I'd we
Sorry - that should be: Irish monuments are now appearing in townlands
where they are not there officially according to the sites and monuments
record.
Killian Driscoll
Banting Postdoctoral Fellow
Département d'anthropologie
Université de Montréal
umontreal.academia.edu/KillianDriscoll
www.lithic
I guess it comes down to what we are doing here. By changing the boundary
to match the new shoreline we are in effect changing the townland size, and
also creating anomalies whereby e.g. Irish monuments are now appearing in
townlands where there are not there officially according to the sites and
m
On 15/05/2015, Donal Diamond wrote:
> There's an earlier thread on topic here where conflicting advice was given
> ;-)
>
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ie/2014-October/000741.html
>
> So looks like it is worthwhile opening up the discussion where we can all
> agree on a common ap
nstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Query on tracing townlands and dealing with
> changed lake levels and new boundaries
>
> Thanks, I've just read the earlier messages.
>
> For the most part it's not probematical to use the new lake level, but it
> does r
Thanks, I've just read the earlier messages.
For the most part it's not probematical to use the new lake level, but it
does raise some anomalies. For example:
At the SW side of Lough Allen the pre-drainage scheme lake level contained
an island called Inishfale Island with the townland of Derrynado
There's an earlier thread on topic here where conflicting advice was given
;-)
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ie/2014-October/000741.html
So looks like it is worthwhile opening up the discussion where we can all
agree on a common approach.
D
On 15 May 2015 at 18:32, Killian Dr
Thanks. "stick with the boundary markings as they exist on the map sheets":
if you scan the lake edges of e.g. Lough Neagh, Gara, Derravaragh, Allen
etc. that have lowered lake levels the traced townland boundaries all now
match the new lake level, so I think the map sheets have been ignored and
ne
Hi Killian,
I'm trying to recall what was done in the past for this as I'm sure it's
come up.
To the best of my recollection, stick with the boundary markings as they
exist on the map sheets.
Dave
On 14 May 2015 22:12, "Killian Driscoll" wrote:
> I've been working on tracing townlands by Lou
I've been working on tracing townlands by Lough Conn, Mayo and don't know
how to deal with some boundaries due to the drop in lake levels from
drainage works. Here http://osm.org/go/etJ86lqw-?m= you can see that I've
left out four townlands: Scotchfort, Cappanaglogh, Cloonygunnaun, and
'Cappanaglog
I'll contribute what I know to this thread - I've had contact with the
mapper in relation to other, less detailed, contributions and was
reassured that all data was correctly obtained having regard both to
permission to use in OSM and to the potentially encumbered nature of
any data sources used.
I work with similar data in Northern Ireland and it always has
copyright conditions attached.
Road data and sewage data mentioned in change log is usually based on
osi/osni vector maps. Even this type of data collected by a
contractor will have copyright restrictions.
Thats how it is in NI (a pi
Quotes from Letterkenny's change-log:
#4507235 April 23, 2010 20:39BBOX:-8.21,54.91,-7.70,54.99 ADD:19
UPD:25 DEL:28 DCC / NRA Road Classes 2010
#4507312 April 23, 2010 20:45BBOX:-7.74,54.95,-7.73,54.95 ADD:23
UPD:4 DEL:2 DCC / NRA / OSI 2010 Sewage Works Map
#4507508
Hey all, just to introduce myself here, I'm Condi on OSM (Conor), from Donegal
and only started mapping about 6 months ago.
I noticed that mapping activity around Letterkenny sky-rocketed a month ago
from virtually a blank canvas to every detail imaginable - and it looks damn
spectacular even i
Hey Paul/Rory/Bartosz,
The building detail and general geometry is pretty awesome and not
something that can be achieved from the best Yahoo orthophotos
available in Ireland.
Paul, GPS traces are usefull for general road alignment, and the
average from a number of traces gives a good indication o
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On 01/08/10 19:29, Bartosz Fabianowski wrote:
> You are right, the detail is amazing. It seems that the editing was all
> done by this user. Someone should shoot him a message and ask what his
> sources were:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Lett
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On 01/08/10 20:11, Paul O'Shea wrote:
> Paul, is there a particular reason why the Letterkenny map appears to
> you to be from imagery? I'm not challenging your interpretation, I'd
> just like to understand the reasoning for future reference in my own
Hi Paul, Bartosz
Based on the comments on changes since April (and the user name), I'm
assuming that the mapper is a local and that the detail is based on
GPS tracks over that time rather than from imagery.
I'm relatively new to the OSM mapping myself and almost always rely on
GPS traces. I normal
You are right, the detail is amazing. It seems that the editing was all
done by this user. Someone should shoot him a message and ask what his
sources were:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Letterkenny
- Bartosz
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Gents,
Hi guys, just to introduce myself, my name is Paul and have been a
regular contributor to OSM for a few years now, both in Ireland and
South Africa.
A quick query/point of concern: I was looking around the map of
Ireland to get a feel for the progress in the rural areas, when I
noticed tha
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