2009/5/26 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com:
I normally use highway=pedestrian for this kind of streets in city
centres (especially mediterranean), here I'd add motorcycle=yes but
definitely wouldn't use access=no.
I would use highway=footway, as pedestrian I see for ways that are
broad
2009/5/28 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com:
I'd agree that service isn't quite right, if that's the front of the
buildings. But similarly residential isn't right either (I guess we all
think of that as something with pavements/sidewalks).
residential don't have to have
2009/5/29 Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org:
- Zitierten Text ausblenden -
Greg Troxel wrote:
I'd agree that service isn't quite right, if that's the front of the
buildings. But similarly residential isn't right either (I guess we all
think of that as something with pavements/sidewalks).
2009/5/29 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com:
Isn't that highway=pedestrian exactly? As for cars I think it might
be a physical impossibility rather than permitted / not permitted.
(But for routing purposes it's just the same.)
well, IMHO it's not, as pedestrian are streets not generally allowed
2009/6/2 Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk:
...and how many buildings designed by either have you tagged so far?
well, Albert Speer and Partner (which is the Junior, still living and
practising) are mostly known as urban planners: http://www.as-p.de/
(though the designed some
2009/6/2 Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk:
Unfortunate as that is, it just reinforces my second point: Don't try to
solve a problem that you haven't actually encountered yet.
I just answered your question if somebody knows two architects with
the same name ;-)
Martin
2009/6/2 Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com:
2009/6/2 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es
El Martes, 2 de Junio de 2009, Jonathan Bennett escribió:
Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
Any comments?
Important to who?
And important for what?
Well, if you are drawing a map then you want to know
2009/6/2 Kev o...@kevswindells.eu:
I can't always tell the difference when a Trunk and a
Primary I know of Primary that could be retagged as Trunk as they are
great big dual carriage ways with slip roads etc eg A289 to Hoo.
Both Primary and Trunk get green signs - but only the latter are
2009/6/3 Paul Houle p...@ontology2.com:
I was annoyed to discover that saved tracks on my eTrex Vista HCx
don't have timestamps. I did some experimenting and discovered that I
need to use the ACTIVE LOG if I want timestamps and control over the
tracks. Funny enough, I didn't find this in
2009/6/4 ekkeh...@gmx.de:
Hello!
On the Wiki-Page for the tag historic=castle [1], a tagging scheme for
castles, palaces and fortifications has appeared. Unfortunately, discussion
on that page has died down. As I believe that the topic requires quite some
more attention and the values
2009/6/4 Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de:
This may be true from an archeological point of view, but a tag does not
have to be a scientifically exact term.
I don't see the point. It was proposed a tag for a sub-feature that
occurs just in areas where English is not the native language, with an
2009/6/4 Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de:
If you look at roads with the same scientific level of precision, there are
differences in measurements, markings, minimum speed, maximum speed, traffic
rules etc.
Have you looked at the values? Do you really think a value of
castle_type=Schloss;Burg is a good
2009/6/5 Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de:
In my opinion it is just the same for castles. You see the tag
catle_type=defensive and you know that it is a Burg in Germany and a keep in
Britain. There is no need to use Burg, hrad, linna, Chateau, zamek etc. with
roughly the same meaning.
well, the confusion
2009/6/5 ekkeh...@gmx.de:
you're still proofing that you should stick to
historic=castle and let others do the castle_type.
Two terms were not well placed as I was writing from memory. But the use of
the term keep is irrelevant for the discussion as it does not appear in the
proposed
2009/6/5 ekkeh...@gmx.de:
Hi!
Burg: a fortress or a walled town
(according to my 1990 vintage Chambers English Dictionary).
So I'd say the English for burg is burg, and yes this is pointless.
Actually, this is a false friend. A Burg is a considerably smaller
fortification than a fortress
2009/6/5 Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de:
No. The name just indicates that the term used to have this meaning in the
middle ages. I don't know a single example of a town referred to as Burg
today and I am still waiting for you to proof your point.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcassonne
Am 6. Juni 2009 15:43 schrieb Chris Hill chillly...@yahoo.co.uk:
Perhaps it would make sense to introduce highway=alley?
+1
Just start using highway=alley, there have been enough questions to
think it is required.
Probably you might also have a look at highway=service service_type=alley
2009/6/7 Sebastian Hohmann m...@s-hohmann.de:
I think you mean service=alley [1].
[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:service
yes, sorry for the wrong quote, using always presets for those ;-)
Martin
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2009/6/8 Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk:
2009/6/8 Stephen Gower socks-openstreetmap@earth.li:
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 11:12:13AM +0100, Dave Stubbs wrote:
You could have done church_type=cathedral, church_type=church, and
church_type=chapel (arbitrary tag name choice... probably
2009/6/8 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
I was actually trying to suggest that it might, in some cases, really
make sense for things to be shared between the then and the now. If you
take the Parthenon in Rome, then the geometry should be pretty much the
same between now and ancient times,
2009/6/9 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es:
El Martes, 9 de Junio de 2009, Tanveer Singh escribió:
Is there a similar software in openstreetmap which downloads openstreetmap
data, allows me to create a track based on that.
I think that Viking should do the trick. It isn't as fancy as
2009/6/10 Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk:
In my eyes, that road would be simply tagged with highway=cycleway.
there are some main differences though: usually they are normal
streets changed in designation. That is cars are allowed but don't
have the priority and must drive very slowly,
2009/6/10 Mario Salvini salv...@t-online.de:
tag both ways as:
highway=cycleway
motor_vehicle=yes
footway=right
parking:right=inline
parrking:left=diagonal
width=13
the rest you don't like is just a rendering issue but not about data, I
think.
the rendering is a way of visualizing the
2009/6/10 si...@mungewell.org:
Imagine if we scale this OSM and filter gps traces collected by cars, we
have an empirical data on the average traffic speed.
Unfortunately the GPS traces will be 'slow biased' as we all slow/stop to
take pictures of post boxes etc.
Somebody please code
2009/6/11 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com:
The wiki link was wrong, try
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Bicycle/overview_ways#Fahrradstra.C3.9Fe
Presumably these cycleroads have disappeared from Mapnik (and any other
rendering that doesn't keep up with things that
2009/6/11 hanoj eha...@gmail.com:
I have idea about relative positioned node on the line (crossing,
bus_stop, railway stops) object with no direct relation to geometry,
but with topology relation.
Currently I describe it even in a step further.
Imagine that you could contraint lines based
Am 12. Juni 2009 16:50 schrieb Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net:
You could place a footway parallel to the road and map in higher
than normal.
Here is an example of what this solution would look like on the map:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.47213lon=-1.920605zoom=18layers=B000FTF
2009/6/14 David Paleino d.pale...@gmail.com:
Hello,
I'd like to retrigger discussion about a Proposed feature, namely
landuse=something (you'll understand reading the two proposals)
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/centre_zone
2009/6/13 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
Hi,
someone on the french list asked how we could tag an archway ?
Something like this:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Place_des_Vosges_archway.jpg
I didn't find anything on the wiki or tagwatch. Maybe it's even
questionable to have a special tag
2009/6/15 Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcade_(architecture)
However, the articles on wikipedia are pretty poor.
+1 (the English one at least, also the 2 last pictures are not typical
for what architects call an arcade, but they refer to the commercial
2009/6/15 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com:
I think the English word for it is Central Business District. Or less
formally City Centre or Town Centre.
When I searched for the right term a also stubled open Central
Business District but I would never apply it to a center, as I
2009/6/16 Peter Dörrie peter.doer...@googlemail.com:
Well, but it is an issue that the map we show off now, is not exactly
feature rich (plain text: is nothing to show off). So I think the discussion
is warranted to either add more bliing bling to the map, or give it a less
dominant status.
2009/6/16 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com:
City Centre or Town Centre would generally refer to the commercial
centre (or CBD).
I have no doubt that commercial activities concentrate in these zones,
but I would see it quite sadly to have the centres reduced to this
commercial
2009/6/17 wer-ist-roger juwelier-onl...@web.de:
Hej Jens,
nice mockup. But I like more the idea of having thumbnails side by side then
this tab-like style.
Yes, it is indeed quite nice, but IMHO not suitable for a large
variety of different Maps (lets say 20-30).
cheers,
Martin
2009/6/26 Tyler tyler.ritc...@gmail.com:
Just tagging the underlying landtypes and uses is fine (aside from most of
them not being natural) but doesn't at all account for the difference
between scrubland/seashore/whatever where you will be shot to death if
you trespass (military installations)
2009/6/28 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
--- On Sun, 28/6/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, you should IMHO map those military areas additionally
with
military=danger_area, so that people don't go there
accidentially...
You mean all those 6 foot fences
2009/6/29 ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl:
I think that the proposed tagging is incomplete
I suggest to add:
plant_type= orange_tree
+1
living=yes/no/plastic
+1
soil_type= ordinary_ground / water culture
why not
barrier_type=decorated_wood or washed out
2009/7/2 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de:
Both foot and cycle routes take a long way around (car goes even further
thought an 'access=bus' section).
access=bus? That tag doesn't match the usual vehicletype=usageright
structure, so why would you expect it to be recognized?
you could take
2009/7/7 Frédéric Bonifas fredericboni...@gmail.com:
Hi,
I have just registered for SOTM and I will be coming from Lyon
(France). I will travel on Friday.
Before booking the train (what is quite expensive), I would like to
know if someone is coming by car from Switzerland, Luxembourg,
2009/7/9 Jacek Konieczny jaj...@jajcus.net:
On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 09:27:29AM +, John Smith wrote:
--- On Thu, 9/7/09, Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net wrote:
please do _not_ use name:la for that purpose, because this
would be how the ancient romans (or the speakers of Modern
Latin)
2009/7/16 Rob r...@coolbegin.com:
2009/7/11 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net
== Drag-and-drop points of interest ==
The basics of OSM editing are now easier than ever:
1. Drag a lovely colourful point of interest onto the right place on the
map
2. Save
3. Er, that’s it
Can one
2009/7/16 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de:
Tim Waters (chippy) wrote:
Neither the page on openstreetphoto.org nor
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OpenStreetPhoto gives any
detail about how us, the community can add photos to this database.
Maybe you could look back in your email
2009/7/18 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com:
No lakes show up on z6, they first start showing up on z7.
I see, but that's the point: I think it would be nice to have them in
z6, at least the bigger ones (like in the link above).
Martin
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2009/7/20 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com:
On 16 Jul 2009, at 13:48, Sam Vekemans wrote:
Umm.. Not everyone is that friendly and we need more powerful medicine for
those occasions.
+1
1) A way to view quickly determine the nature of any change-set - did the
change set add any new
Does anyone know if these are real-world representations or just spam?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-66.662lon=50.799zoom=11layers=B000FTF
cheers,
Martin
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2009/7/20 Rory McCann r...@technomancy.org:
On 20/07/09 13:47, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Does anyone know if these are real-world representations or just spam?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-66.662lon=50.799zoom=11layers=B000FTF
cheers,
Martin
How did you find that?!???
Ocassionally
2009/7/20 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
2009/7/20 Rory McCann r...@technomancy.org:
On 20/07/09 13:47, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Does anyone know if these are real-world representations or just spam?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-66.662lon=50.799zoom=11layers=B000FTF
Today I was editing with Potlatch (edit with save), then saving (all
edits were saved) and closing the browser window. But 20 Minutes later
the changeset was still displayed as still editing in the
changeset-list. Is this a bug or is it normal (i.e. takes some time
after closing to recognize) or
2009/7/20 Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com:
Depending on your perspective (and who your boss is). ... according to
tree-huggers, all trees that are standing SHOULD be protected, and
designated as a national park. :) ... tree's were there way longer than
people, and should be more
2009/7/20 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
Today I was editing with Potlatch (edit with save), then saving (all
edits were saved) and closing the browser window. But 20 Minutes later
the changeset
2009/7/20 Tyler tyler.ritc...@gmail.com:
What would you then use for a 200 square kilometer continous forest?
landuse=nature_reserve
actually I wouldn't use landuse for natural reserves, they are
boundaries (similar to political/administrative ones), within you can
find several different
2009/7/21 maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com:
Landuse and Landcover are two different things although in some cases
interchangeable.
it doesn't change my point: there can be different reserves /
protective areas at the same area (air, water, natural, ...), together
with different
2009/7/21 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Tyler tyler.ritc...@gmail.com wrote:
landuse. While I'm not convinced national parks,
national forest wilderness areas,
federal/state/county/municipal wildlife reserves
shouldn't be solid fill areas in renderers,
well,
2009/7/21 Tyler tyler.ritc...@gmail.com:
In some cases they are so large that they're used to help orientate
yourself on a map. With out them the map looks less map like.
Correct, Washington State looks naked as low zoom levels without its
corresponding parks and national forests.
than you
2009/7/21 Dirk-Lüder Kreie osm-l...@deelkar.net:
John Smith schrieb:
I'm not saying it's not a valid warning, I'm saying it's most likely not a
valid warning if the end node being referred to is a barrier=*, regardless
if it's a grid or gate or whatever.
I disagree. I have had dozens of
2009/7/21 Milo van der Linden m...@opengeo.nl:
May I suggest looking at what people at the CORINE landcover dataset
have defined?
http://www.eea.europa.eu/publications/COR0-landcover/at_download/file
they have a nomenclature describing a classification that is studied and
looks usable to me.
2009/7/22 Alice Kaerast kaer...@qvox.org:
There is also another property which hasn't been considered - type of
trees. Evergreen vs. Deciduous might be nice to know. Ordnance survey
maps differentiate between coniferous and non-coniferous and has
symbols for coppice and orchard.
no, it
2009/7/23 Liz ed...@billiau.net:
The end result of my quick check is that
1. European or northern hemisphere categories of forest are incompatible with
Australian flora.
2. Standardised category names may be meaningless to mappers who aren't going
to use them if they don't understand them.
2009/7/23 Nicola Cadenelli nicolacd...@gmail.com:
I changed the description of the tag and now is a tag for areas made
principally of rock, inside which there are cliffs, scree, coastline,
glacier and more. What do you think?
The similar tag natural=rocks[1] is Undefined (inactive), it's not
Hi all,
I think this page is quite important for new users, as it describes
many of the possible beginner's errors:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editing_Standards_and_Conventions
I don't understand why there is this disclaimer on top:
This article or section contains out-of-date
2009/7/26 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com:
info is pretty old and not up to date.
well, but it is still valid, even if it's old, isn't it? I could not
find errors - things that now are treated/mapped differently or the
like.
some rework is needed to make it
really useful.
go ahead. I
2009/7/27 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
--- On Mon, 27/7/09, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote:
Then file a trac ticket at http://josm.openstreetmap.de to get one added.
Do we really need to file bugs on all types of stiles? or would it be better
to list it as
2009/7/27 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
I've noticed some people have tagged bridges with height=*, rather than
tagging the road way under the bridge as maxheight=* and I'm kind of unsure
which is better.
height on the bridge instead of the way under it would IMHO indicate
the height
2009/7/27 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
--- On Mon, 27/7/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
maxheight expresses a height limit for using the way to
which the tag is
added. If no unit is included, the value is assumed to be
in metres.
You get to break up the way and mark it as
2009/7/28 Liz ed...@billiau.net:
To return to the bridge
the following attributes of the bridge and the road underneath it all need to
be considered
a) Height of bridge
height tag on bridge way
b) Height above sea level of the bridge
ele tag on bridge way
c) Max height of the arch of the
2009/7/29 Arlindo Pereira nig...@nighto.net:
Hi there,
here in Brazil, and in most of Latin America as I can see on Wikipedia [1],
so-called motels are short-time hotels or love hotels, differing from
the original concept in english (hotel for drivers). Do you think that we
should tag them
Hi,
reading the English page for tag highway
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway and comparing it to the
German version, I found some inconsistencies. Whilst I generally would
have tried to transfer the English content to the German page, in this
particular case I think that the German
2009/7/29 Joseph Scanlan n7...@arrl.net:
Perhaps an additional tag to show stay duration.
stay=hourly;daily;weekly;monthly
Use any that apply. (There's probably a better tag to use than 'stay'.)
We used to have a motel in town that featured Free XXX Adult Movies on
their Marque
2009/7/29 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com:
There are three separate concepts:
physical structure
administrative designation
importance according to actual use
maybe there could be also a forth that is structural importance for
the historical development (e.g. the main street, that was there
2009/7/29 Harald Kleiner e9625...@gmx.at:
Hi!
I want to talk about this page on the wiki describing how to map tunnels
correctly:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tunnel#How_to_Map
Especially the last paragraph causes headaches to me:
If the tunnel ends in a junction you'll need a small
2009/7/30 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
true it's going faster. Or I missed the announcement somewhere on a
mailing-list...
maybe it was just announced on the German ML, but I remember about it
2. It says that the main use is for city_limit. Again, why not. But
the other examples are very
2009/7/30 Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net:
this might be a logical topic: we are mapping the center of the road.
The tunnel can not end at the center of the crossing road, because
this road itself is not a tunnel. (you will have at least half the
width of the crossing road untunneled).
No, IMO
2009/7/30 OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com:
their kit looks quite bulky. I've got just one videocamera (and no
LIDAR) fitted, and it all mounts on handlebars with room to spare for
other stuff.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Georeference_video
Maybe the big tricycle is needed to lift the
2009/7/30 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
--- On Thu, 30/7/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
at a given time.
(we have reduced maxspeed in front of schools depending on
time, day and
whether it is term time)
There are other roads that have variable limit speed signs and they can
2009/7/30 Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net:
Maybe not in all cases, but have a look at this example:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=degeocode=q=bayreuthsll=37.0625,-95.677068sspn=59.467068,107.138672ie=UTF8ll=49.935936,11.646567spn=0.000375,0.000817t=kz=21
It'd be hard to argue that
2009/7/30 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
--- On Thu, 30/7/09, Lennard l...@xs4all.nl wrote:
And in my own jurisdiction: to be able to set maxspeed=none
for bicycles
when there is no explicit maxspeed sign. :D
bikes have the same speed limits here as every other thing on wheels, and
2009/7/30 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com:
this is working well for out-of-town situations. Inside urban
good point; that's what I am used to thinking about.
agglomerations there should be different criteria though (and not
necessarily they are physical, what is my point: let's put the
2009/7/30 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl:
Lennard wrote:
Exactly, it's a moot point, and I included it mostly to make the point
that there are so many subtle ways to handle maxspeed, that it would be
difficult to make an all-encompassing tagging scheme. At some point,
you'll just have to go
2009/7/31 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
--- On Thu, 30/7/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
- residential roads (just in residential areas, no
connecting
function, you will not take this if you don't live in the
area)
- unclassified roads (not clear
2009/7/31 Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl:
When using maxheight / maxheight:physical / maxheight:legal the words themself
already tell most of the definition.
maxheight - for places where the difference is academic / for people who
don't care about the difference
+1
maxheight:physical - the
...or
locally-maintained rural roads that are important for local
navigation, such as connecting a shortcut between two nearby highways
which don't intersect.
I'm happy that there seems (until now, few contribution in this
thread) a consensus on the proposed modification of the basic
2009/7/31 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
No, no, no. maxheight until now was clearly the legal maxheight. It is
not explicitely writen on the wiki because you don't see the physical
height in many countries here in Europe but only the legal traffic
sign and the max height traffic sign is displayed
2009/7/31 Aun Johnsen (via Webmail) skipp...@gimnechiske.org:
No, no, no. maxheight until now was clearly the legal maxheight. It is
not explicitely writen on the wiki because you don't see the physical
height in many countries here in Europe but only the legal traffic
sign and the max height
2009/7/31 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
someone with interest in this topic could set up a page for
maxheight:physical, so this discussion doesn't get lost:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=Key:maxheight:physicalaction=editredlink=1
cheers,
Martin
2009/7/31 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com:
I object to the notion that there should be a different relationship
between residential/unclassified in urban vs rural areas. We already
have too much of that, and I think it's a sign our definitions are off
base. There's no clear boundary, and we have
2009/7/31 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
Some of us are in Australia and there will only be one sign posted in
Australia which is the legal height, but the person you are responding to is
in Brazil and you said none for South America so that answers that I guess.
there were no
2009/7/31 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, I just see it as a hierarchical line:
residential
unclassified
tert
sec
prim
trunk
motorway
it's simple as that, and I don't see any problem.
Maybe to you, but I
2009/7/31 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com:
So probably the renderers need a way to show unclassified as less
important than tertiary.
they (t...@h, mapnik, cyclemap) are already doing this.
And perhaps 'residential' should be redefined as only used by people
who are traveling to a location on
2009/7/31 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com:
In that case we need a parallel tag to unclassified, meaning local-only
but without the residential notion. But around me there aren't enough
such roads to worry about, and they're all tagged residential from
massgis import anyway :-)
well. Propose what
2009/7/31 Martin Simon grenzde...@gmail.com:
2009/7/31 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
This tag is used for roads accessing or around residential areas but
which are not a classified or unclassified highway.
This is a useful guideline if you are not sure whether to use
residential
2009/7/31 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com:
Sometimes it's physical, sometimes administrative. Generally it's
administrative where that is clearly defined (ie the higher road classes in
developed countries), and more physical when it isn't.
So saying either is correct
2009/7/31 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net:
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
did you give JOSM a try? It doesn't suffer from partly loaded
data, which might be the issue in your case.
I doubt that very much indeed. Potlatch can't load a way without loading its
constituent nodes; nor can
2009/7/31 Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com:
2009/7/31 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com:
Well, you could argue that it would be valid to adopt this standard in
a country where it was deemed useful. But that's not how it is here.
Ireland has two grades of National road, primary and secondary
2009/7/31 Liz ed...@billiau.net:
Martin mentions http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Residential
The history for this shows that was written after we wrote our Australian
tagging guidelines - nearly a year later.
yes, this page is indeed dating back just to April 2008, what means,
there has
2009/8/1 Renaud MICHEL r.h.michel+...@gmail.com:
Le vendredi 31 juillet 2009 à 03:23, Roy Wallace a écrit :
What about a way that has either a physical limitation or a legal
limitation (not both). Perhaps there is some argument that the tag
should differentiate between these situations? Though
2009/8/1 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
areas, that's why your aussie-way might produce slightly
worse routing
results (don't know, just an idea).
The navit routing engine prefers residential to tertiary in some cases... So
not all poor routing is because we use unclassified for lower
2009/8/1 Christiaan Welvaart c...@daneel.dyndns.org:
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Why would who maintains a road directly determine its administrative
classification? If a municipality decides that some road is a motorway, we
better tag it as such. In The Netherlands some
2009/8/1 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
--- On Sat, 1/8/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
Which are those cases? Maybe the tertiary was not
connected? Did you
check the map data in the area? Usually bad routing results
come from
bad map data ;-)
Yup, the map data
2009/8/1 OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com:
Most of the slippy-maps I've seen so far have OpenStreetMap or
similar as the document title. While nicely minimalist, it doesn't
always describe what you're looking at on screen.
Imagine if it said OpenStreetMap Oxfordshire, United Kingdom instead...
2009/8/1 James Stewart j.k.stew...@ed.ac.uk:
Classifying roads in central asia, it is easier, and makes more sense in my
opinion to use the highway ref in the administrative sense. Some countries
or regions have 5 or 6 main roads with are the national trunk system. In
places they are almost
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