Re: [Talk-transit] Mapping public transport network in Port au Prince

scribe the services themselves. Fixed routes can be added a bus routes (as in your example). If not then you may be more on your own! Here is a diagram and some modeling details from the UK schema if that helps. http://www.dft.gov.uk/transxchange/schema/2.0/examples/flexible/ I will be very inter

Re: [Talk-transit] New administrator and comments/questions on the new public transport schema

On 2 May 2011 05:44, Dominik Mahrer (Teddy) wrote: > Hi Peter > > > On 05/01/2011 10:49 AM, Peter Miller wrote: > > Just to say that I have just set Stefan Bethke up as an admin. There are >> now two administrators, myself and Stefan which is much better. >> &

[Talk-transit] New administrator and comments/questions on the new public transport schema

tag to suit the renderer - this is more a question about how we want to tag things unambiguously and what we want the map to look like and therefore what we want the rendered to do! Regards, Peter Miller ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit

[Talk-transit] Additional administrators needed please

I have very belatedly noticed a load of posts to talk-transit needing moderation. I have been through them all discarding the dross and releasing the valid ones. Many apologies for people who's posts got held up. Can we have some offers of additional administrators for this list as I am the only o

Re: [Talk-transit] [Spam] Re: child relations in type=route, route=bus

On 2 October 2010 05:28, Michał Borsuk wrote: > > > 2010/10/1 Jo > >> [...] I'm pretty sure that if one gets the PT companies to share their >> data, it's not going to be in there with child relations. >> > > Usually (e.g. HaFas) timetables consist of a number of routes, and those > are very det

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed additional tags for bus stops and animport of San Fracisco data

location of the roads in the roads dataset are offset from the position of the stops in the gtfs dataset due to accumulated positional errors resulting in the stops being positioned on the wrong side of the road. Regards, Peter Cheers, Joe On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Peter Mill

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed additional tags for bus stops and animport of San Fracisco data

y there would be two nodes, one for each direction or possibly just one with no bearing. As you say Joe, lets review many different systems and see what will work in different places. Regards, Peter Cheers, Joe On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Peter Miller > wrote: I have

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed additional tags for bus stops and animport of San Fracisco data

On 15 Jul 2010, at 08:59, Michał Borsuk wrote: On 15.07.2010 09:53, Peter Miller wrote: This is a problem when it comes to creating clear map rendering where one wants to snap the stop to correct side of the correct road and not left them floating as they are currently. An additional

[Talk-transit] Proposed additional tags for bus stops and an import of San Fracisco data

I have been looking at the GTFS data for San Francisco over the past few days and considering how one could do a bus stops/tram stop import for the place and more generally for the GTFS data. However... in the process I want to be be 100% clear which road the stop serves and in which dire

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS compatibility

blic. Agreed. Finding places with good GTFS stops data and then importing it in OSM would be a great start. Regards, Peter Cheers, Joe On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Peter Miller > wrote: Apologies form coming into the conversation late( (I have just returned from the State of

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS compatibility

Reviewing the San Francisco data a little more has made me think about the modelling of stations in GTFS. At the Market St/8th Street junction there are buses, a surface tram and a underground metro. The GTFS feed has the following details for stops and services from them: Metro Civic

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS compatibility

information about the physical infrastructure and connect it to the official ID for the stop used by the authority. It will however take time to get there one city at a time! Regards, Peter Miller ITO World Ltd On 4 Jul 2010, at 13:16, john whelan wrote: In the UK streets are tagg

Re: [Talk-transit] Bus stops in North America from GTFS data

think the UK has done a good job on this one and which could be replicated elsewhere! Regards, Peter > > Richard > > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Peter Miller > wrote: >> >> On 11 Jun 2010, at 01:49, john whelan wrote: >> >> Ottawa is differ

Re: [Talk-transit] Bus stops in North America from GTFS data

be calculated. More about naptan codes here http://www.dft.gov.uk/naptan/smsPrefixes.htm Regards, Peter > > Richard > > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Peter Miller > wrote: >> >> On 11 Jun 2010, at 01:49, john whelan wrote: >> >> Ottawa is differ

Re: [Talk-transit] Bus stops in North America from GTFS data

n copied elements with OSM tags into the main OSM space. This could be a good way of working in other countries. Finally here is a proposal for tagging some of the more complex aspects: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Stop_Area Regards, Peter Miller ITO World www.itoworld

[Talk-transit] TfL Schedules for buses and the tube to be released?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jun/04/coins-treasury-public-sector-data Regards, Peter Miller ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit

[Talk-transit] more admins for talk-transit please!

I seem to be the only person performing moderation on this list at present. Normally I review a load of spam one as week, however today I found four new real people with messages needing to be released. Not sure how long they had been waiting but it could have been nearly a week. Can I ha

Re: [Talk-transit] [Spam] Re: NaPTAN - Time for the rest?

There are some very useful apps emerging that link from osm to official departure information etc. Yes i think we should import the rest of the data. I am also happy to be part of a remote cleanup team who will do what can be done remotely. How about importing additional counties using the ne

Re: [Talk-transit] RFC on interchanging data

On 24 Feb 2010, at 17:24, Claudius Henrichs wrote: > Hello Roland, > you hit the nail on the head: public_transport:stop_area relations > are the way to go. At least I keep mapping stations/stops with > interchange possibilities like that. Please do not forget about > stop_area_group as wel

Re: [Talk-transit] bus route/relations done right

On 17 Nov 2009, at 12:57, Roland Olbricht wrote: >> Can I suggest we define some terms. >> >> A Line is all the journeys made using a particular reference (4, X13, >> Citi1 etc). > [...] >> A Line Variant (also know as a Service Variant) is a unique stopping >> pattern for a bunch of Journeys wit

Re: [Talk-transit] bus route/relations done right

On 17 Nov 2009, at 12:35, Richard Mann wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Peter Miller > wrote: Can I suggest we define some terms. A Line is all the journeys made using a particular reference (4, X13, Citi1 etc). Most people actually use the Route relation for this. This sho

Re: [Talk-transit] bus route/relations done right

On 17 Nov 2009, at 07:35, Ed Loach wrote: > David wrote: > >> To these I added the ways in no particular order, then >> the stops from origin to destination, and then the stops >> on the opposite side of the road going back the other way. >> Adding stops like this keeps them in order when display

Re: [Talk-transit] Novam colour scheme question

On 16 Nov 2009, at 11:37, Chris Hill wrote: > Ed Loach wrote: >> Recently I wrote (re CUStomary stops): >> >> >>> I can't >>> think of any easy way of verifying those other than hang around >>> all day hoping someone will get on or off (or perhaps trying to >>> get on at one and trying to get off

[Talk-transit] bus route/relations done right

On 13 Nov 2009, at 18:59, Jozef Riha wrote: > hello all, > > i posted the latter text into t...@osm today but then someone > suggested i should better ask here. so, the post goes like this: > > thank you for your understanding, > > joe > > -- begin -- > hello all, > > i'd like to review/finish ma

[Talk-transit] Novam colour scheme question

On 11 Nov 2009, at 16:23, Ed Loach wrote: > Looking at the bus stops I've verified, and in particular ones on > roads where I've verified some but not others, would it be possible > to have a different colour (I'm using Peter Miller scheme at > present) for unv

Re: [Talk-transit] TTC - Toronto, Canada data available

On 4 Nov 2009, at 07:56, Sam Vekemans wrote: > Hi all, > if any of you are on the talk-ca list, you might have seen that the > city of Toronto opened up their data, and TTC info is in there. > > Does anyone have a clear method/approach that worked for dealing > with the data? > Is it better to

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

On 28 Oct 2009, at 10:50, Ed Loach wrote: >> 3. Peter Miller's colour scheme which should work for most of >> the UK > > Do I really have to add shelter=no to every bus stop without a > shelter, rather than just adding shelter=yes to the rare one that > does? I agree. I was following the conven

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

On 27 Oct 2009, at 22:58, Shaun McDonald wrote: > Looking good, I'm thinking of adding timetable_case=yes/no/empty to > the list of required fields. A couple of other thoughts. It would be great to have a full screen option which I could then print out and take with me as a quick way of highl

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

On 27 Oct 2009, at 22:58, Shaun McDonald wrote: > Looking good, I'm thinking of adding timetable_case=yes/no/empty to > the list of required fields. > Good stuff - I have been through my local area with a cleanup pass of and it has helped find a number of issues. I will do other parts of the

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN case study

On 22 Oct 2009, at 14:58, Chris Hill wrote: > Christoph Boehme wrote: >> Chris Hill wrote: >> >> > overlay these are the cyan coloured stops. Click on one and you will > see the note. My overlay is a lashup so I would really like to see > NOVAM working well. >> I should perhaps also note tha

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN case study

On 23 Oct 2009, at 08:20, Ed Loach wrote: > Roger wrote: > >> For Clacton - and indeed for any part of the SE, EM and EA >> traveline >> regions, the interactive maps on the sites allow right-clicking >> on any road >> link to show the current services using each road link. > > Which sites are th

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN case study

On 22 Oct 2009, at 15:12, Shaun McDonald wrote: > > On 22 Oct 2009, at 15:00, Peter Miller wrote: > >> >> Every bus stop has an associated authority in NaPTAN - possibly we >> should import this as well to help spot errors in the boundaries. > > You don't

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN case study

cidentally the data for the Wirral also includes some taxi ranks. HTH, Jerry Clough SK53 on OSM From: Peter Miller To: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics > Sent: Thursday, 22 October, 2009 13:54:13 Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN case study On 22 Oct 2009, at 12:55,

Re: [Talk-transit] [Spam] Re: NOVAM is back

On 22 Oct 2009, at 14:30, Christoph Boehme wrote: Peter Miller wrote: Will be added too. All good ideas. A 'see this area of mapping in openstreetmap.org' would also be great. Do you mean in an editor or just on the OSM website? I meant just the plain old OSM website from

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN case study

On 22 Oct 2009, at 12:55, Chris Hill wrote: > Christopher Osborne wrote: >> Hello all >> >> As part of the data.gov.uk experiments, I had >> several encounters with top brass of various gov departments. They >> were very excited in the NaPTAN import, none of them had heard ab

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

On 22 Oct 2009, at 11:52, Shaun McDonald wrote: > > On 22 Oct 2009, at 11:03, Peter Miller wrote: > >> >> On 22 Oct 2009, at 10:11, Christoph Boehme wrote: >> >>> Good Morning, >>> >>> this is just to let you know that NOVAM is working again

[Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

On 22 Oct 2009, at 10:11, Christoph Boehme wrote: > Good Morning, > > this is just to let you know that NOVAM is working again. It can be > found on http://mappa-mercia.org/novam . Please update any old links > and > booksmarks. > > Since I decided not to implement a merging functionality on th

Re: [Talk-transit] open transit map?

On 29 Sep 2009, at 20:20, Bin Jiang wrote: > HI, looks wonderful, but where can I down the transit data? Sorry > for if > its a naive question. The routes are encoded in OSM as relations. Here is an example bus route:- http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/190701 Regards, Peter > >

Re: [Talk-transit] Relations for stop areas in NaPTAN

On 28 Sep 2009, at 16:13, Claudius Henrichs wrote: Am 28.09.2009 15:05, Peter Miller: On 28 Sep 2009, at 13:44, Jerry Clough - OSM wrote: I've just noticed that the relations for stop places generated in the NaPTAN import do not have a type. I just happened to be browsing through

Re: [Talk-transit] Relations for stop areas in NaPTAN

more correct from a CEN standards perspective but Stop Area is very much adopted. I think the site approach makes a lot of sense and it would be straightforward to migrate to this over time. Peter Miller wrote: I noticed yesterday that the public transport article[1] is still linki

[Talk-transit] Announcement re new 'moderation' email list to develop effective responses to vandalism and mistakes

A new 'moderation' email list[1] has been created to help develop effective responses to vandalism and mistakes. To avoid spam subscriber's the first posts will be moderated so don't expect them to appear immediately. Subsequent posts will not be moderated. [1] http://lists.openstreetmap.o

[Talk-transit] Relations for stop areas in NaPTAN

On 28 Sep 2009, at 13:44, Jerry Clough - OSM wrote: I've just noticed that the relations for stop places generated in the NaPTAN import do not have a type. I just happened to be browsing through some KeepRight issues and noticed a number of relation without type ones. I'm sure its unimpo

[Talk-transit] East Lothian Bus Stops lack any details on the ground

On 23 Sep 2009, at 19:32, Shaun McDonald wrote: > Hi, > > Yesterday I was out checking a few bus stops in East Lothian > (cycling from Musselburgh out along the coast to North Berwick). > Pretty much all of them had no information other than a flag which > said that buses stop here and that

Re: [Talk-transit] London Bridge

On 18 Sep 2009, at 18:05, Shaun McDonald wrote: > > On 18 Sep 2009, at 17:42, Peter Miller wrote: > >> We then have enough information for people to play trains! >> >> If the station has multiple levels then each element should have a >> layer tag and we will n

Re: [Talk-transit] London Bridge

On 18 Sep 2009, at 15:40, Thomas Wood wrote: > I've been pondering micro-mapping the carstop signs to mark where the > front of the train stops. > Indeed, I tried to collect this info for Wimbledon, but the GPS there > was too poor also. Sounds good. How about the following:- A railway=stop no

Re: [Talk-transit] Should railway station relations includebusstops?

On 10 Sep 2009, at 09:01, Frankie Roberto wrote: 2009/9/10 Peter Miller On 10 Sep 2009, at 00:45, Thomas Wood wrote: > NaPTAN provides relations for stations (or at least it should, I've > yet to check), in most cases, this will contain the station node, and > entrance no

Re: [Talk-transit] Should railway station relations include busstops?

On 10 Sep 2009, at 00:45, Thomas Wood wrote: > NaPTAN provides relations for stations (or at least it should, I've > yet to check), in most cases, this will contain the station node, and > entrance nodes, and child relations eg, the stops outside of it. > I've yet to import them, but I do have al

Re: [Talk-transit] One last question (for now)

t think NaPTAN names are going to spread to timetables >> though. At >> least not in the medium term. >> >> Another question is whether bus stop names are about identifying bus >> stops for navigation, identifying bus stops for getting on buses or >

Re: [Talk-transit] One last question (for now)

On 8 Sep 2009, at 18:09, Jerry Clough - OSM wrote: Don't be too hasty (although 5 years seems long enough): there are two stops on Castle Boulevard, Nottingham named MFI, which must be 2 years 'out-of-date'. Many locals will remember the presence of MFI long after the chain closed and the

Re: [Talk-transit] One last question (for now)

On 8 Sep 2009, at 16:17, Péter Connell wrote: > Problem is determining commonnames without reference to passengers - > so > you end up with Bridge Lane opp Health Centre (n bound) when 'B&Q' > would > be better. B&Q (opp) would be a nice short name as long as there was not more than one B&

Re: [Talk-transit] One last question (for now)

yet know what basis the matching might be on, since there are discrepancies with the AtcoCode we may need other fields too. I have sent my first set of comments (~25% of the stops) to Hull council's transport team for their comments and analysis. Cheers, Chris Peter Miller wrote: > On 7 Sep 2009

[Talk-transit] One last question (for now)

as alt_name more? We can then run a script from time to time to compare the current state of the two datasets and create reports for either party of the discrepancies. Regards, Peter Miller > > Ed > > > > ___ > Ta

Re: [Talk-transit] Public Transport routing

services) it takes a > different route each time [from Moorland Road and Hyde Park Road] ~ > but > what should I go for? > > > > Roger Slevin wrote: >> >> As someone sitting on the periphery of OSM, with a particular >> interest >> in the use of NaPTA

Re: [Talk-transit] Public Transport routing

On 5 Sep 2009, at 07:50, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 07:42:58PM +0100, Péter Connell wrote: To not use timetables would case various aberrant behaviours like routing Yorkshire-Scotland traffic via Settle (side-note: does NRES still need to be forced to route this way?) Speed

[Talk-transit] Linking into the Traveline 'NextBus' interface

I was speaking with Peter Stoner today and he mentioned that he was keen that OSM started linking into the other Traveline services including NextBus. This has the simplest of interfaces for requesting service data using the ATCO code which is put into the 'StopCode' field as in the follo

[Talk-transit] Public Transport routing

On 4 Sep 2009, at 11:24, Frankie Roberto wrote: Hi all, I just added a new introduction to the Public Transport page (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport ), trying to give an overview of what public transport is and why it should be added to OSM. Looks good. But lets als

Re: [Talk-transit] Vertical Levels (Layers) versus Altitude forstations

On 4 Sep 2009, at 09:25, Christoph Boehme wrote: > Peter Miller wrote: > >> We would also need to consider slope, steps and lifts between layers >> and the situation where a lift only connects some layers but not all >> of them. A lift is currently represented as a sing

[Talk-transit] Vertical Levels (Layers) versus Altitude for stations

In the absence of a vast building program of new monorails[1] as proposed by Bill Ricker, I am beginning to think about mapping some of the more complex transport interchanges here in the UK. I am currently adding platforms, walkways and steps to the simpler stations that I know and am no

Re: [Talk-transit] local_ref problem around Anerley in NAPTAN

On 2 Sep 2009, at 16:27, Richard Mann wrote: 1) Would it make sense to seek permision from TfL to derive labelling information from their website maps. It's such a rich source of info, it'd be a pity not to try. They're a bit daft putting copyright on their spider diagrams - if I were them

Re: [Talk-transit] local_ref problem around Anerley in NAPTAN

On 2 Sep 2009, at 12:28, Shaun McDonald wrote: On 2 Sep 2009, at 09:22, Peter Miller wrote: On 1 Sep 2009, at 23:49, Jason Cunningham wrote: Hi, I've noticed the same problem with Anerley. Digging around my memory and looking at the TFL website confirms what I thought the pr

Re: [Talk-transit] local_ref problem around Anerley in NAPTAN

On 1 Sep 2009, at 23:49, Jason Cunningham wrote: Hi, I've noticed the same problem with Anerley. Digging around my memory and looking at the TFL website confirms what I thought the problem was. A few years ago a resting place/bus station was built next to Anerley Station for bus drivers,

Re: [Talk-transit] JOSM Plugin

On 24 Aug 2009, at 20:18, Péter Connell wrote: > Wonder if we need some openjourneyplanner thing - obviously a > massive task. > > ... but who owns bus timetables? The argument is raging as we speak This is a great blog post on the subject which shows how hard the agencies are being push

[Talk-transit] "Foxhall Road Lamp 589"!

Could we run a competition for the least helpful bus stop name. I would like to enter Suffolk in that category with a bus stop named "Foxhall Road Lamp 589" [1]. I guess it comes in handy when someone wants to start collecting lamp posts in the area and enter their references, for all othe

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN bus stops

On 21 Aug 2009, at 17:13, Chris Hill wrote: Roger Slevin wrote: Peter I can confirm that the Department for Transport would be supportive of any way in which we (and the local editors who maintain NaPTAN data as best they can) can get the feedback from OSM contributions to improve data

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN bus stops

On 21 Aug 2009, at 15:49, Chris Hill wrote: I've started to survey the bus stops Thomas imported for Hull. I chose a small area to look at to see how it went. * Out of 12 stops surveyed, 2 don't exist on the ground. * The codes given as the naptan:AtcoCode are not displayed on the

Re: [Talk-transit] Weird stations in the UK (as shown on Googlemaps)

On 20 Aug 2009, at 17:00, Frankie Roberto wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Peter Miller > wrote: There are four station in the King's Cross/ St Pancras on Google[5]. Two for St Pancras station, one for King's Cross Station and then one for King's Cross/St Pancras

[Talk-transit] Tools for viewing and dealing with the NaPTAN data...

could be added as a new section on the main naptan page. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN Regards, Peter Miller ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit

[Talk-transit] Weird stations in the UK (as shown on Google maps)

We have been doing some work for National Rail and this has highlighted a bunch of weirdnesses about what is a railway station and what is not a railway station. Some of weirdnesses are down to problems with data, but others show up operational issues. I have been proposing a more comprehe

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN Merging Guidelines

On 18 Aug 2009, at 01:07, Bryce McKinlay wrote: > Thank you very much for your efforts on this, Thomas, and everyone > else involved - I've been waiting for the London import for a while, > and it's fantastic to see this data in OSM! +1 > > I have one "bug" to report: Is it possible that specia

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

On 11 Aug 2009, at 09:23, Frankie Roberto wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Jochen Topf wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 01:31:10AM +0200, Cartinus wrote: > On Monday 10 August 2009 09:10:15 Jochen Topf wrote: > > The "infrastructure route" is something different from the "moving vehic

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

On 10 Aug 2009, at 08:10, Jochen Topf wrote: > On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 09:30:34PM +0100, Frankie Roberto wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Jochen Topf >> wrote: >> >> For vehicles: The route the cyclist follows is route=bicycle. The route bus 5 follows is route=bus.

Re: [Talk-transit] Is 'Transit' and 'Public Transport' the samething?

On 7 Aug 2009, at 17:07, Christoph Böhme wrote: > Peter Miller schrieb: >> Which leads to a question of terminology... >> >> Is 'transit' a synonym for 'public transport'? or not. If not then >> what is the difference? > > As a non-nat

[Talk-transit] Wiki cleanup

I am getting on with going through the top level wiki articles that relate to public transport it make is easier for people to get started and use the currently recommended tagging. The 'Transit' page is now in a reasonable state, (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Transit ), I have moved

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

On 7 Aug 2009, at 10:08, Ed Loach wrote: > Thanks Roger, > > If they're PlusBus zones, then Clacton railway station lies outside > the Clacton zone as it currently stands, and while Harwich > International (formerly Harwich Parkeston Quay) is probably a > boundary point for the Harwich zone (thou

[Talk-transit] Is 'Transit' and 'Public Transport' the same thing?

ional than public transport). Regards, Peter Miller ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit

Re: [Talk-transit] New 'Transit' page and proposed Stop Place model

On 6 Aug 2009, at 14:07, Frankie Roberto wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Peter Miller > wrote: snip b) splitting the pages down into smaller components - eg railways, bus stops, train services, train stations, etc. Whilst it's good to have an overall conceptual model,

[Talk-transit] Subject: Re: Railway route relations

On 6 Aug 2009, at 13:52, Hillsman, Edward wrote: > On 5 Aug 2009 14:59:04 +0100, Peter Miller wrote: > >> I totally agree, however we are just setting out on a long journey to >> capture all the transit data for the world, so lets get the modelling >> clear now and not

Re: [Talk-transit] New 'Transit' page and proposed Stop Place model

On 6 Aug 2009, at 10:37, Frankie Roberto wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Peter Miller > wrote: I have create a new top level page for 'transit' and redirected 'public transport' to that page. Take a look here and tell me what you think, and do of cour

[Talk-transit] New 'Transit' page and proposed Stop Place model

I have create a new top level page for 'transit' and redirected 'public transport' to that page. Take a look here and tell me what you think, and do of course make it better! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Transit I am also proposing to write basic articles for each of the individual m

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

On 5 Aug 2009, at 14:41, Richard Mann wrote: > Yes Frederik could tidy things up, but it's best not to change > things arbitrarily (ie substituting line for route), because it just > makes it harder to remember what is correct. The lack of presets for > relations in Potlatch makes it doubly

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

On 5 Aug 2009, at 13:13, Richard Mann wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Cartinus wrote: IMHO the solution is simple. Name it after what you are mapping. For vehicles: The route the cyclist follows is route=bicycle. The route bus 5 follows is route=bus. The route tram 13 follows is rout

Re: [Talk-transit] Route relations types

On 5 Aug 2009, at 13:05, Frankie Roberto wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Roger Slevin wrote: Before anyone answers your question, please bear in mind that there is no clear definition of a “coach” ... and I have dealt with a feedback to traveline on this very point only this mor

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

On 4 Aug 2009, at 23:37, Frankie Roberto wrote: Hi all, I'm still keen to try and nail this public transport service vs infrastructure issue. I have create a new wiki-page 'Public transport schema 2' based on Oxomoa's proposal on the main wiki based on the last edit made before the big

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN Import

On 1 Aug 2009, at 22:51, Thomas Wood wrote: > 2009/8/1 Christoph Böhme : >> Thomas Wood schrieb: >> >>> I think all outstanding coding issues have now been dealt with. >>> There's one minor tagging issue to address - should the source tag >>> be >>> on the data or changesets. >> >> Since the s

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

On 29 Jul 2009, at 20:27, Jochen Topf wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 04:24:34PM +0100, Frankie Roberto wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Peter Miller > >wrote: >> >>> I think the problem is that we are using the term Route for at >>> least

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

On 28 Jul 2009, at 18:41, Christoph Böhme wrote: > o...@edwardbetts.com schrieb: > >> Christoph Böhme wrote: >>> Many places have wikipedia entries (even villages). If we can manage >>> to automatically look the entries up and extract the relevant >>> information (population size) from the info

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

On 27 Jul 2009, at 22:14, Christoph Böhme wrote: > Hi > > "Roger Slevin" schrieb: > >> Locality Classification was added as a possible "nice to have" to the >> version 2 schema but it has not been populated, and no guidance has >> been created to indicate how this field should be used (save for

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

On 26 Jul 2009, at 22:14, Christoph Böhme wrote: > Hi > > Peter Miller schrieb: >> I am also aware that there is a 50K place gazetteer sitting there >> untouched - last week I was adding villages in Norfolk by hand and >> the data is sitting available in NPTG. >

[Talk-transit] Change of settings for talk-transit

Just to let you know that I have added Frankie Roberto as an admin for the list as per an earlier discussion. Thanks for helping out Frankie. I have also changed the setting for talk-transit so that replies go to the whole list by default which seemed to be what the majority who expressed a

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

On 20 Jul 2009, at 14:35, Thomas Wood wrote: > 2009/7/20 Peter J Stoner : >> In message on 20 Jul 2009, Ed Loach wrote: >> >>> I'm assuming that the naptan import when it happens will be as at a >>> certain point in time, and won't include any new bus stops since >>> that >>> time? >> >>> I'm

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

On 9 Jul 2009, at 10:54, Frankie Roberto wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Peter Miller > wrote: I am happy to change the settings for this list, but then it will be different from most other lists. Lets have a poll and follow the majority. I will stay neutral! For some reaso

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

On 9 Jul 2009, at 10:39, Frankie Roberto wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Richard Mann > wrote: You went off-liste Dammit. Can we change the reply-to settings? (or has that debate been done to death already?) I am happy to change the settings for this list, but then it will be dif

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

On 6 Jul 2009, at 21:24, Melchior Moos wrote: Hi, 2009/7/6 Brian Prangle I've experimented with the section of the West Coast Mainline between B'ham New St and B'ham International: I've added a train (i.e service) relation with ref=WCML and also a railway (i.e physical) relation with ref

Re: [Talk-transit] [Spam] Re: West Mids Bus Routes

On 2 Jul 2009, at 13:52, Peter J Stoner wrote: > In message m> > Brian Prangle wrote: > >> Have a go at mapping one bus route to start with - it's great fun! >> We were >> helped enormously by having the trial NaPTAN import so we got a >> good grid of >> bus stops mapped where we

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus operator references

On 1 Jul 2009, at 14:43, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > I'm a bit confused by what are the correct bus operator references > in west > mids. > > For example, Brian is using NXWM for National Express West Midlands > which > would seem logical, however on the Centro website if I chec

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] NaPTAN and the new PTtagging schema

On 26 Jun 2009, at 17:51, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > Peter Miller wrote: >> Sent: 26 June 2009 4:41 PM >> To: Thomas Wood >> Cc: talk-gb-westmidla...@openstreetmap.org; talk-transit@openstreetmap.org >> Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN and the new PT tagging schema

t 16:21, Thomas Wood wrote: > 2009/6/24 Peter Miller : >> >> On 24 Jun 2009, at 18:20, Thomas Wood wrote: >> >>> 2009/6/24 Peter Miller : >>>> >>>> Can I suggest that we treat this import and any final tagging as a >>>> separate

Re: [Talk-transit] Multiple tracks

a beginner-renderer to do it right. Doesn't feel like the minimum of fuss to me, sorry. I suggest that beginner-renderer and contributors should ignore the problem! Regards, Peter Richard On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Peter Miller > wrote: I would suggest that rende

Re: [Talk-transit] [Spam] Re: Multiple tracks

On 24 Jun 2009, at 15:11, Frankie Roberto wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Richard Mann > wrote: Do relations solve the problem at all? If a track is part of a route relation, then could a renderer use that as a means of aggregating the tracks together? My hunch is that relations

[Talk-transit] NaPTAN and the new PT tagging schema

On 24 Jun 2009, at 14:51, Thomas Wood wrote: > Hi all, > It's about time to push on the import to the rest of the UK, however, > we must first consider what we do with the new Public Transport > tagging schema. Sounds good. I know there is a lot of interest in this. > It would make a lot of sen

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