One question on the Naptan import: Did you use any tags from the
public_transport therefore? Or are these all highway=bus_stop?
Would be a great chance to increase coverage of the more detailed
public_transport=platform
Claudius
Am 29.06.2010 02:07, Shaun McDonald:
In the UK as part of the
I was referring to
public_transport=platform + bus=yes
public_transport=bus_stop would not work because there are stop
positions where trams, buses and sometimes (Karlsruhe comes to my mind)
even light_rails stop at the same position (Image:
Roger Slevin wrote:
The PlusBus zone data comes from PlusBus – so please don’t try to change
it. If you think it is wrong, then let me know and I will ask PlusBus
to review the information.
The Wrexham and Ruabon PlusBus zone has been imported without any
reference to Wrexham (the more
I see some areas have been imported near here, public_transport=pay_scale_area,
for Harwich and Clacton. Is there a wiki page somewhere detailing what these
are (I'll search after sending this)?
In the case of Clacton, it looks like it was defined as a line from the coast,
inland, then back
[mailto:talk-
transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Roger Slevin
Sent: 07 August 2009 09:20
To: 'Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics'
Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import
Ed
Useful feedback which I will take up with PlusBus - as they
should have
listed coastal
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Ed
Useful feedback which I will take up with PlusBus - as they
should have
listed coastal boundary stops to avoid this situation.
Best wishes
Roger
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From: talk
I am not offering to create the page so hopefully someone else
will do
that. (I am doing work on cleaning up other existing transit
related
wiki pages on when I have time).
I might do a page Tag:public_transport=pay_scale_area and divert
PlusBus to that?
Google reveals these areas were
...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Ed
Loach
Sent: 07 August 2009 08:59
To: talk-transit@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-transit] Naptan import
I see some areas have been imported near here,
public_transport=pay_scale_area, for Harwich and Clacton. Is
there a wiki
page somewhere
From: talk-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org
[mailto:talk-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Clough - OSM
Sent: 05 August 2009 15:31
To: talk-transit@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-transit] NAPTAN Import: Plus-bus Zones
I've had a quick look at a couple
I've had a quick look at a couple of the PlusBusZones (once inadvertently, as
the name is rendering
inappropriately on the Mapnik map): Nottingham and Maidenhead. In both cases
boundaries are only
approximate, and appear to be delimited by bus stops rather than routes (e.g.,
service 6 in
Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb:
On 1 Aug 2009, at 22:51, Thomas Wood wrote:
snip
Ooops, I linked the wrong changeset!
http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/389 was my
intent.
A couple of comments.
Firstly, the locality field is an important part of the
On 1 Aug 2009, at 22:51, Thomas Wood wrote:
2009/8/1 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net:
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb:
I think all outstanding coding issues have now been dealt with.
There's one minor tagging issue to address - should the source tag
be
on the data or
-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org
[mailto:talk-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Christoph Böhme
Sent: 02 August 2009 00:24
To: Thomas Wood
Cc: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics
Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb
topics
Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb:
2009/7/30 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net:
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb:
2009/7/29 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net:
I transformed the Plusbus Zones into a josm-file
...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Christoph Böhme
Sent: 02 August 2009 11:40
To: talk-transit@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import
Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb:
Plusbus zones are polygons which are unrelated to the road network -
so for Rye it covers a large polygon defined
I think all outstanding coding issues have now been dealt with.
There's one minor tagging issue to address - should the source tag be
on the data or changesets.
Otherwise, a test upload of the Surrey data is visible here -
http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/394
Comments welcomed.
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb:
I think all outstanding coding issues have now been dealt with.
There's one minor tagging issue to address - should the source tag be
on the data or changesets.
Since the source tag applies to the whole changeset it makes sense to
tag only the
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb:
2009/8/1 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net:
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb:
Otherwise, a test upload of the Surrey data is visible here -
http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/394
Comments welcomed.
Could
2009/7/30 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net:
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb:
2009/7/29 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net:
I transformed the Plusbus Zones into a josm-file (XSLT is cool :-).
Thomas can you import it using the naptan-user if no one objects to
the tagging
2009/8/1 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net:
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb:
2009/8/1 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net:
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb:
Otherwise, a test upload of the Surrey data is visible here -
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb:
2009/7/30 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net:
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb:
2009/7/29 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net:
I transformed the Plusbus Zones into a josm-file (XSLT is
cool :-). Thomas can you import it using
2009/7/29 Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com:
2009/7/29 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net:
[snip]
- Alternative names (e.g. welsh names)
NaPTAN includes this too, I was going to check whether the
functionality was required as we started on Welsh/Scottish regions, I
can't remember the
-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org
[mailto:talk-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Wood
Sent: 31 July 2009 16:14
To: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics
Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import
2009/7/29 Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com:
2009/7/29 Christoph
Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net wrote:
Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb:
I am also aware that there is a 50K place gazetteer sitting there
untouched - last week I was adding villages in Norfolk by hand and
the data is sitting available in NPTG.
I taught myself XSLT at
...@b3e.net]
Sent: 28 July 2009 22:54
To: ro...@slevin.plus.com; Public transport/transit/shared taxi
related topics
Cc: ro...@slevin.plus.com; 'Peter Miller'
Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import
Roger,
thank you for your explanations.
Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb
Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb:
On 27 Jul 2009, at 22:14, Christoph Böhme wrote:
Hi
Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb:
Locality Classification was added as a possible nice to have to
the version 2 schema but it has not been populated, and no
guidance has
Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net schrieb:
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb:
2009/7/29 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net:
Talking of the NaPTAN import: The NPTG data also contains polygons
for the Plusbus Zones. This data is self-contained and can easily
be imported. They
To: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics
Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import
2009/7/29 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net:
Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net schrieb:
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb:
2009/7/29 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net:
Talking
[mailto:christ...@b3e.net]
Sent: 29 July 2009 18:36
To: ro...@slevin.plus.com
Cc: 'Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics'; 'Peter Miller'
Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import
Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb:
Christoph
Sorry - I now realise I shouldn't have referred
Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb:
2009/7/29 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net:
I transformed the Plusbus Zones into a josm-file (XSLT is cool :-).
Thomas can you import it using the naptan-user if no one objects to
the tagging scheme?
On 27 Jul 2009, at 22:14, Christoph Böhme wrote:
Hi
Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb:
Locality Classification was added as a possible nice to have to the
version 2 schema but it has not been populated, and no guidance has
been created to indicate how this field should be used
On 28 Jul 2009, at 18:41, Christoph Böhme wrote:
o...@edwardbetts.com schrieb:
Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net wrote:
Many places have wikipedia entries (even villages). If we can manage
to automatically look the entries up and extract the relevant
information (population size) from the
Roger,
thank you for your explanations.
Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb:
Although NPTG was originally for public transport purposes, we
stressed at all times that a locality should be listed even if it has
no public transport - but we know that some local editors have
probably
: Christoph Böhme [mailto:christ...@b3e.net]
Sent: 28 July 2009 22:54
To: ro...@slevin.plus.com; Public transport/transit/shared taxi related
topics
Cc: ro...@slevin.plus.com; 'Peter Miller'
Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import
Roger,
thank you for your explanations.
Roger Slevin ro
2009/7/26 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net:
I am happy to continue working on the NPTG import if Thomas does not
mind.
Yes, that's fine, NPTG isn't really an interest of mine, as I think I
insinuated on the wikipage writeup of the format.
2009/7/27 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com:
My
2009 08:52
To: Christoph Böhme
Cc: talk-transit@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import
On 26 Jul 2009, at 22:14, Christoph Böhme wrote:
Hi
Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb:
I am also aware that there is a 50K place gazetteer sitting there
untouched - last
Good evening,
Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb:
On 26 Jul 2009, at 22:14, Christoph Böhme wrote:
I also created a copy of the NOVAM viewer and changed it to display
NTPG data instead of bus stops:
http://www.mappa-mercia.org/cgi-bin/nptg.wsgi/viewer.html
Great stuff, and
Hi
Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb:
Locality Classification was added as a possible nice to have to the
version 2 schema but it has not been populated, and no guidance has
been created to indicate how this field should be used (save for a
table of permitted values). There is no
] On Behalf Of Christoph Böhme
Sent: 27 July 2009 21:50
To: Peter Miller
Cc: talk-transit@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import
Good evening,
Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb:
On 26 Jul 2009, at 22:14, Christoph Böhme wrote:
I also created a copy of the NOVAM viewer
-Original Message-
From: Christoph Böhme [mailto:christ...@b3e.net]
Sent: 27 July 2009 22:14
To: ro...@slevin.plus.com
Cc: 'Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics'
Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import
Hi
Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb:
Locality
Christoph Böhme wrote:
Hi
Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb:
Locality Classification was added as a possible nice to have to the
version 2 schema but it has not been populated, and no guidance has
been created to indicate how this field should be used (save for a
table of
Hi
Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb:
I am also aware that there is a 50K place gazetteer sitting there
untouched - last week I was adding villages in Norfolk by hand and
the data is sitting available in NPTG.
I taught myself XSLT at the weekend and played a bit with the NPTG
2009/7/22 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com:
On 20 Jul 2009, at 14:35, Thomas Wood wrote:
2009/7/20 Peter J Stoner stone...@mytraveline.info:
In message on 20 Jul 2009, Ed Loach wrote:
I'm assuming that the naptan import when it happens will be as at a
certain point in time, and
2009/7/22 Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com:
2009/7/22 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com:
On 20 Jul 2009, at 14:35, Thomas Wood wrote:
2009/7/20 Peter J Stoner stone...@mytraveline.info:
In message on 20 Jul 2009, Ed Loach wrote:
I'm assuming that the naptan import when it
I'm assuming that the naptan import when it happens will be as at a certain
point in time, and won't include any new bus stops since that time?
I'm asking because a bus route has changed in the last week or so that now
passes my house both ways instead of just one way and rather than add bus
2009/4/3 Brian Prangle bpran...@googlemail.com:
Hi Thomas
From our west mids meeting last night a number of requests and queries came
up
1.Can you import Wolverhampton - the guys up there are ready to have a crack
Ok, done.
2. Coventry will not be far behind but hold off until we've
In message 49d135f1.9010...@00l.de
Gerrit Lammert o...@00l.de wrote:
Hi.
I'm exited to see how this works out.
Beeing curious, I just zoomed in into Birmingham and noticed two things:
1) Imported stops seem to be close to the already mapped ones but off by
some meters
2) Some
Hi.
I'm exited to see how this works out.
Beeing curious, I just zoomed in into Birmingham and noticed two things:
1) Imported stops seem to be close to the already mapped ones but off by
some meters
2) Some Streets seem to consist entirely of bus_stops.
2009/3/19 Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com:
- Run a conversion and filter on the West Midlands data set for just
items in Birmingham.
I've now written the filtering code for the converter script, I think
all that's left to be done is to test the file upload against a test
OSM api, to
2009/3/19 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com:
On 19 Mar 2009, at 17:18, Thomas Wood wrote:
Yes, this is the first message since the confirmation we can use the data.
I did a little more tweaking to the StopArea code at the weekend (not
that it matters for the WestMids data).
I propose
Hi all
has there been any progress with the NaPTAN import yet? The list has
been very quiet recently.
I started programming the visual merge tool but I have not yet reached
a point where there is something to show. I decided not to modify the
busstop data in the osm database directly but to keep
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