Il giorno 06/set/2014, alle ore 23:41, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com
ha scritto:
The concept of hierarchy still exists for hiking trails, motorcycle routes,
paths, stairs, walkways.
For stairs, walkways and paths I am not so sure, usually when walking you'll
take the shortest
Il giorno 06/set/2014, alle ore 07:24, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com
ha scritto:
BUT ANY OF THESE can be primary, secondary, tertiary or residential.
No, the ones that are too narrow (motorcycle) can only be path in osm
Cheers,
Martin
Greg Morgan wrote:
It feels like the discussion is about fixing a routing problem
when in reality you would exclude people that want to make it
to Cleator Arizona or other recreational destinations. The
people at the Cleator Bar and Yacht Club[4] would question
your judgement that this a
On Sep 6, 2014, at 1:12 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Il giorno 06/set/2014, alle ore 07:24, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com
ha scritto:
BUT ANY OF THESE can be primary, secondary, tertiary or residential.
No, the ones that are too narrow (motorcycle) can only be path in osm
Am 06.09.2014 15:19, schrieb Tod Fitch:
It is way too late now, but I think tagging of traveled ways would
have been better off it a simple highway=yes tag had been agreed to
with everything else in other tags like width=*, surface=*,
maxspeed=*, access=*, etc.
IMHO you should
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
Il giorno 06/set/2014, alle ore 07:24, Bryce Nesbitt
bry...@obviously.com ha scritto:
BUT ANY OF THESE can be primary, secondary, tertiary or residential.
No, the ones that are too narrow (motorcycle)
I see rural roads breaking down fairly neatly:
- Paved
- Unpaved improved
- Track
- ATV/Narrow vehicle only (the United States Forest Service defines
this as 50 body width or less)
- Single track (e.g. Motorcycle)
- Trail
- Closed to some combination of
Here's my concern with the discussion. After 6.5 hours of driving for 129
mile round trip, you can type in 13030 east crown king road and find a
valid location along a dirt road. There are posted speed limits, mile
markers, two lanes of travel, addresses and the like. I saw more traffic
on
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Michael Patrick geodes...@gmail.com
wrote:
A road is a motor vehicle travel way over 50 inches wide, unless
classified and managed as a trail. The II_ROAD_CORE table includes all of
the nationally required data fields representing road characteristics
Complete
Hi,
On 09/02/2014 05:27 AM, Nick Hocking wrote:
I beleive that it's absolutely essential (from
safety and useability perspectives) to immediately mark all these
uncertain ways as unroutable.
...
A bot could do this easily and then it really doesn't matter how long it
takes to find the best
On 9/1/2014 11:27 PM, Nick Hocking wrote:
I think thrse ways can easily be identified by...
1) They are original TIGER data import
2) They have not been edited since import
3) They are higway=residential
4) They are unnamed
Another way to select roads having suspicious routing would be:
nick.hock...@gmail.com
Reply: Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com
Date: September 1, 2014 at 9:28:45 PM
To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org talk-us@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Dirt Roads (formerly: Abandoned railway)
While people work out how to remove the multitude of tiger ways
I think the other half of the equation, however, is actually getting this
fixed across the country. At present it appears to be just a small
number of mappers doing it in their areas; the US is a big place,
and at the current rate it's not going to be fixed any time soon.
Drive-by tools like
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:52 AM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote:
I'd like to see (more) well-identified, well-prioritized,
even-novices-can-do-this-if-they-want such projects emerge and be displayed
in our wiki (or someplace) so that fired-up OSM volunteers itching to map
can shop
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To: stevea stevea...@softworkers.com
Cc: talk-us talk-us@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Dirt Roads (formerly: Abandoned railway)
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:52 AM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote:
I'd like to see (more
*Cc:* talk-us talk-us@openstreetmap.org
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 2, 2014 6:26 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] Dirt Roads (formerly: Abandoned railway)
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:52 AM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote:
I'd like to see (more) well-identified, well-prioritized,
even-novices
Richard Welty wrote:
agreed. i have spent quite a lot of time in Iowa farming
territory where the road grid consists mostly of high
quality, well maintained gravel roads that are in regular,
heavy use by farm equipment. i generally give these
highway=unclassified, surface=gravel.
Great
On 9/1/2014 7:53 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
I think the other half of the equation, however, is actually getting this
fixed across the country. At present it appears to be just a small number of
mappers doing it in their areas;
To be honest, I don't really get the problem with excessive
Hi,
* Mike N nice...@att.net [140901 14:45]:
On 9/1/2014 7:53 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
I think the other half of the equation, however, is actually getting this
fixed across the country. At present it appears to be just a small number of
mappers doing it in their areas;
To be honest,
On 9/1/2014 9:59 AM, Wolfgang Zenker wrote:
I guess you haven't done much in the rural parts of the US yet. Have a
look at Lincoln County MT: You will find A LOT of tracks. Most of these
had been tagged as residential highway in the TIGER import (with horrible
distorted geometry of course), and
On 9/1/2014 11:27 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Except I don't know if they're at all cyclable, or if I need to take the
bike with knobbly tyres, or even if they exist at all. OSM in the US just
isn't reliable to that level, whereas it is in Western Europe, and the
Australians are also working on
What would help here? A Tasking Manager instance with defined areas (say,
10km x 10km, or counties, or...)? Anything else?
I like the idea of a TM to help here (like a cake map or somesuch),
but I'd rather we slice things up by county rather than (random, 10km
x 10km) grids. Reason #1 is
While people work out how to remove the multitude of tiger ways that don't
actually exist, downgrade others from the incorrect residential to
unclassified or track
depending on imagery or ground survey, and fix the geometry of all unedited
TIGER data, I beleive that it's absolutely essential (from
I think the other half of the equation, however, is actually getting this
fixed across the country. At present it appears to be just a small number
of mappers doing it in their areas; the US is a big place, and at the
current rate it's not going to be fixed any time soon. Drive-by tools like
Well, the road your referring to sounds like a track, if it has no other
significant use than a beautiful and adventurous way to travel between the two
towns. However, the road I live on is well maintained (graded, plowed in
winter, etc. – FYI I drive a Nissan Maxima/low clearance 2WD) but
that.
Happy Mapping!
From: Paul Johnson [mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org]
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:12 PM
To: Russell Deffner
Cc: Mike N; OpenStreetMap talk-us list
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Dirt Roads (formerly: Abandoned railway)
Likewise, I consider WA-500 a trunk west of WA-503 to it's
Likewise, I consider WA-500 a trunk west of WA-503 to it's terminus at I-5,
even though it's largely grade separated, due to it's very short length
(not even all the way across Vancouver, WA) and multiple at-grade
intersections, including it's intersection with WA-503, and low speed (45
MPH).
On
+1 to this. While mapping areas near my folks where I grew up there are lots of
dirt roads and there are lots of tracks and they are different.
In that area, in my opinion, a dirt road will have regular maintenance
sufficient for passage by a family car and, generally but not always, be wide
On 8/31/14 1:03 PM, Tod Fitch wrote:
+1 to this. While mapping areas near my folks where I grew up there
are lots of dirt roads and there are lots of tracks and they are
different.
In that area, in my opinion, a dirt road will have regular maintenance
sufficient for passage by a family car
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