Re: [Talk-us] Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet)

Natural=peak must be a local high point, so it has to be at least a few meters higher than the surrounding land. A natural=peak does not have to be the highest point of a mountain, but it has to have some topographical prominence. Not all spot elevations on USGS are of peaks, some are just a

Re: [Talk-us] US map rendering (Was: Re: Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet))

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 5:46 PM Phil! Gold wrote: > I started work last year on a better system that generates SVGs on the fly > from OSM data, so it doesn't need the pregeneration step. I got bogged > down with other things before I quite finished, but it's mostly there. It's really great

Re: [Talk-us] motel vs. hotel

Good question! As others have said - hotels have rooms that open indoors, motels have rooms that open outdoors. That’s the only difference. I did a bit of research on this last year for https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index because

Re: [Talk-us] motel vs. hotel

As I believe the etymology of the word "motel" (circa 1920s) is a contraction of "motor hotel," I believe it is fair to say that a motel is a hotel which caters to motorists. That is, patrons who arrive in an automobile and wish for it to be immediately accessible, as in parked directly

Re: [Talk-us] motel vs. hotel

This was discussed at the main Tagging mailing list a couple of months ago: Start of thread: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-December/041597.html Continuation in January: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-January/041720.html The wiki page for Motel was

Re: [Talk-us] motel vs. hotel

I've slept in some pretty nice places that had exterior room access. I wouldn't call that out as the only demarcating property. To my mind it's a combination of location, amenities and layout / architecture. Interesting discussion! Martijn van Exel > On Mar 8, 2019, at 18:03, Tod Fitch

Re: [Talk-us] motel vs. hotel

For me the difference is interior hallway to access room (hotel) vs exterior access to each room (motel). On March 8, 2019 4:47:33 PM PST, Peter Dobratz wrote: >How do you distinguish between the tourism=hotel and tourism=motel >tags? > >The criteria that I was imagining is that a motel is a

Re: [Talk-us] motel vs. hotel

I think your description of motels as parking directly outside rooms is good, but I've seen plenty of motels that had multiple stories. Wikipedia's page on motels is good and has this definition: "a type of hotel consisting of a single building of connected rooms whose doors faced a parking lot

Re: [Talk-us] motel vs. hotel

I thought the defining architectural difference was whether access to the room was via interior hallway (hotel) or exterior walkway (motel). On Fri, Mar 8, 2019, 19:51 Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On 3/8/19 18:47, Peter Dobratz wrote: > > How do you distinguish between the tourism=hotel and

Re: [Talk-us] motel vs. hotel

On 3/8/19 18:47, Peter Dobratz wrote: > How do you distinguish between the tourism=hotel and tourism=motel tags? > > The criteria that I was imagining is that a motel is a single story > building where you have the ability to park you car directly outside of > your room. A hotel would be other

[Talk-us] motel vs. hotel

How do you distinguish between the tourism=hotel and tourism=motel tags? The criteria that I was imagining is that a motel is a single story building where you have the ability to park you car directly outside of your room. A hotel would be other types of buildings such as multi-story where most

Re: [Talk-us] US map rendering (Was: Re: Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet))

* Phil! Gold [2019-03-08 17:44 -0500]: > https://gitlab.com/asciiphil/osm-shields Oops, that's the master branch, which doesn't have the changes. You need to look at the svg branch: https://gitlab.com/asciiphil/osm-shields/traa/svg -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... /

Re: [Talk-us] US map rendering (Was: Re: Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet))

* Kevin Kenny [2019-03-08 14:25 -0500]: > On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:37 AM Martijn van Exel wrote: > > > > I agree that a local US OSM map with a *subtly* adapted rendering would be > > fantastic. Phil Gold did some interesting work years ago on rendering US > > style highway shields taking

Re: [Talk-us] US map rendering (Was: Re: Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet))

Kevin — yes, I was talking about SOTM US. Please do stay tuned to this list and OSM US blog for announcements for community scholarships and other initiatives we will deploy to make it possible to have many more community members attend (and also present! on interesting topics like this one.)

[Talk-us] US map rendering (Was: Re: Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet))

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:37 AM Martijn van Exel wrote: > > I agree that a local US OSM map with a *subtly* adapted rendering would be > fantastic. Phil Gold did some interesting work years ago on rendering US > style highway shields taking into account (sometimes crazy) route concurrency >

Re: [Talk-us] Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet)

Perhaps they should be tagged not as peaks then but as a place node (place=locality probably)? > On Mar 8, 2019, at 10:23 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: > > > > On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 6:29 AM Kevin Broderick > wrote: > > Would

Re: [Talk-us] Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet)

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 6:29 AM Kevin Broderick wrote: > > Would https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4992960980 be an example of (or > very similar to) what you're talking about? > Yes, slightly different, but same general concept. > I've been told that one is a local reference point ("25

Re: [Talk-us] Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet)

I agree that a local US OSM map with a *subtly* adapted rendering would be fantastic. Phil Gold did some interesting work years ago on rendering US style highway shields taking into account (sometimes crazy) route concurrency (http://elrond.aperiodic.net/shields/?zoom=13=39.75926=-86.02786=B

Re: [Talk-us] Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet)

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 10:59 AM Martijn van Exel wrote: > If it’s just a shortcut to have the main OSM map display elevation in feet, > that’s not right, but it indicates a need that is currently unaddressed: > displaying elevation in local units on the main map. Even as a USAian, I'm fine

Re: [Talk-us] Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet)

If it’s locally known as such, to my mind, it’s totally fine tagging it that way, even if it’s only by backcountry skiers. I would say this is common in OSM, I see (and appreciate) a lot of named trails that are not always signposted as such but locally known by those names (like

Re: [Talk-us] Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet)

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 2:38 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > If it is a peak then ele=XXX and noname=yes would be OK. > > If it is not a peak it should not be present at all - otherwise it opens way > to importing > LIDAR data into OSM (and there are datasets with resolution of 5 cm, dumping > it

Re: [Talk-us] Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet)

To elaborate on my previous response, now that I'm back at a computer: Would https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4992960980 be an example of (or very similar to) what you're talking about? I've been told that one is a local reference point ("25 Short", ie. 25 feet short of 10k), and at least one

Re: [Talk-us] Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet)

This is simply a way to get an otherwise unnamed peak to render and also, I suspect, to sidestep the inconvenience of converting the elevation to meters. AFAIK, there are no peaks with the generic name "Point" on any USGS Topos. In addition, placing the elevation into the name is another trick