Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-02-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Sebastian Arcus s.ar...@open-t.co.uk wrote: All of that doesn't really exist in the US, if my knowledge serves me right. Even the smallest of settlements (bigger than a farm) seemed to have started in the US around a group of facilities, such as shops,

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-02-02 Thread John F. Eldredge
On February 1, 2014 7:04:43 PM CST, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 2/1/14 3:59 PM, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I have some trouble though with the notion of village in the US. Looking back to what I know about US (which could be partially wrong), I'm not sure they really have

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-02-01 Thread Sebastian Arcus
Note that if you delete the node, the city name will no longer be rendered on osm.org http://osm.org or Mapquest Open. Not sure about other renderings but I'm guessing a lot of them do the same thing. Another way of fixing the nominatim problem is to create a boundary relation for the city.

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-02-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 2/1/14 3:59 PM, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I have some trouble though with the notion of village in the US. Looking back to what I know about US (which could be partially wrong), I'm not sure they really have the true notion of village as per many other places in the world. In the US, it

[Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-01-29 Thread Sebastian Arcus
If a search is done for Fortuna, CA in OSM, two different entities show up at the top, for the same thing. One is from a TIGER import, one is from a GNIS import. One is a node the other one is for the boundaries of the place. I assume a place doesn't need to have both a node and a way. If I

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-01-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I generally copy the tags to the boundary (in JOSM copy the node, then paste tags into the way). The tiger and gnis tags do not overlap. The GNISID is a particularly useful tag to preserve. Town vs. City is a matter of opinion. You can visit the municipal website and use whatever term they use

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-01-29 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/29/14 2:14 PM, Sebastian Arcus wrote: If a search is done for Fortuna, CA in OSM, two different entities show up at the top, for the same thing. One is from a TIGER import, one is from a GNIS import. One is a node the other one is for the boundaries of the place. I assume a place doesn't

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-01-29 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/29/14 2:23 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I generally copy the tags to the boundary (in JOSM copy the node, then paste tags into the way). The tiger and gnis tags do not overlap. The GNISID is a particularly useful tag to preserve. gnisid may be the only one worth saving, most of the GNIS:

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-01-29 Thread Toby Murray
Note that if you delete the node, the city name will no longer be rendered on osm.org or Mapquest Open. Not sure about other renderings but I'm guessing a lot of them do the same thing. Another way of fixing the nominatim problem is to create a boundary relation for the city. Move the tags from

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-01-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Welty [mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:32 AM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town On top of it, one of them claims Fortuna, CA is a town, while the other claims it is a

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-01-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: terms like town and city generally have specific legal meanings in the US, and those meanings vary from state to state. this is one where in all likelyhood you should leave it to a local mapper, or consult with a

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-01-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: terms like town and city generally have specific legal meanings in the US, and those meanings vary from state to state. this is one where in all likelyhood you should leave it to a local mapper, or consult with a

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-01-29 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/29/14 4:48 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: terms like town and city generally have specific legal meanings in the US, and those meanings vary from state to state. this is one where in all likelyhood you should leave

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-01-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 29/gen/2014 um 20:14 schrieb Sebastian Arcus s.ar...@open-t.co.uk: I assume a place doesn't need to have both a node and a way. Actually having both a node and a polygon is the best. If you delete either you'll loose information. cheers, Martin