Jo winfixit at gmail.com writes:
I don't think postcodes should go on roads. Either you add them addresses
or buildings as addr:postcode=..
Or you create a boundary
(relation):http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3379414/history#map=13/50.8208/4.3755
boundary=postal_code
There
Jean-Marc Liotier jm at liotier.org
writes:
On 26/02/2014 15:35, Martin
Koppenhoefer wrote:
I am going even further by saying
ideally a
landuse=residential/industrial/
commercial/retail polygon should not
incorporate any public road at all.
But then how do you tag named
Richard Z. ricoz.osm at gmail.com writes:
I need on average 4 captcha-reloads before I get a captcha picture which
I can recognise with good enough confidence to even try it.
You only have to type the right number for the distorted figures. You can
type whatever you like for the photograph.
As has happened repeatedly recently, there is no image of the week well
after it should have gone lave and any suggestion at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_image_proposals is bombarded
with criticism. I would like a discussion on where we go from here.
Do we want to keep the featured
Erick de Oliveira Leal erickdeoliveiraleal at gmail.com writes:
In the city template, links like below are off, how to edit this template
to not show this links?
http://tah.openstreetmap.org/MapOf/?lat=-15.7896long=-47.8221z=9w=1280h=1024format=jpeg
Zoom into http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/10.46900/-66.84900 and Bing
has nothing like it.
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SomeoneElse lists at mail.atownsend.org.uk writes:
There have however been some unintended consequences of the changes. A
number of abandoned railways near me were edited from abandoned to
disused; I'm guessing that it might be because of the recent changes.
Changeset comments along the
Rob Nickerson rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com writes:
Hi All,
Lets just step back and reflect on this for a minute. I have reviewed the
replies on this mailing list and there are a mixture of supportive comments,
a few negatives and the remainder may suggest something but are neither
negative or
Edward Betts edward at 4angle.com writes:
Don't be alarmed, this is a work in progress. I'm not going to add any
wikidata tags until we have reached a consensus.
Is there an advantage deriving wikidata tags from existing wikipedia tags?
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Edward Betts edward at 4angle.com writes:
I adjusted my criteria for islands, villages, towns and cities.
There are now 102,691 matches and 230 mismatches.
http://edwardbetts.com/osm-wikidata/
http://edwardbetts.com/osm-wikidata/mismatches.html
How old are the datasets you are
Roland Olbricht roland.olbricht at gmx.de writes:
This underpins the two theses:
1. The solution with ; is far more established than the solution with
prefix alt_name_.
2. It is altogether a sometimes but not often used feature.
The TIGER import used name_n istead of alt_name_n.
Andrew Buck andrew.r.buck at gmail.com writes:
However, since the conversion scripts have changed over time and since
some work was done manually by others, we ended up using two slightly
different forms for the alt_name field in the case where there are
more than one alt_name for a given
Paul Norman penorman at mac.com writes:
I believe with TIGER these were not alternate names, but different
names, none of which were clearly main or alternates in the data. It's
one of those things that makes raw TIGER data a pain to work with.
That situation is distinct from when you
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Awards_for_OpenStreetMap
Could anyone who knows more about any of the awards or one that I’ve left
out fill in the gaps.
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Jo Walsh metazool at fastmail.net writes:
Attack is the best form of defence?
Sorry, I don't have much sense of the OSM community as it currently
exists, and I just re-joined the list, where it seems like others leap in
with confrontational tone. It has been some years since I was
Lists lists at gimnechiske.org writes:
This should be the general rule for mechanical edits when migrating
tagging schemes.
Fair enough when there is a clear use that this fosters but it is unclear
whether that is true here. As a community we have to make sure that trolls
and others without our
Rainer Fügenstein rfu at oudeis.org writes:
are you referring to me and the pipeline proposal? if yes, I'll
withdraw the MEP proposal, since I don't want to be a troll.
Sorry not to make myself clear. The comment was not aimed at you and I would
like to make clear that I support the mass edit
Dave Corley davecorley at gmail.com writes:
Lastly, and I think this is important point. To quote the wiki header
. the project that creates and distributes free geographic data for the
world. Either this is a database of worldwide geodata or its not. There's
no half-way in that statement.
Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com writes:
Or oneway=1, -1 reverse, true,
reversible
The tag oneway=true is extinct in the
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Mike Thompson miketho16 at gmail.com writes:
The issue is that some streets that are not one way in OSM data, are
rendered as one way by Craigslist.
If you go to this ad and zoom in on the map you will see the arrows
designating one way streets, for example on Cliffrose Way
Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at gmail.com writes:
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1736 -
review
of the code and comments are welcome.
We have a great opportunity for a spot of promotion. Publish a post
on our blog announcing the new style and explaining the
As part of an article on the diversity of OSM-based mapping I’m
looking to check if the list at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_services is up
to date, including sites and especially map styles that may not have
been noted.
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I am having a look at the map key for the standard layer and I am finding a
number of loose ends.
One obvious issue is that the key is sometimes out of date: for instance it
distinguishes between forest and wood but the style sheet no longer does so.
The key talks about trunk, primary and
Dave F. davefox at madasafish.com writes:
Hi
Bearing in mind the wiki is used more often by new OSM
contributors
therefore should be a clear concise as possible, I'm curious why
this
icon is so
prevalent:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/thumb/5/5f/Osm_element_tag.sv
The Map Features page is a long standing page on the wiki linked from its
left sidebar and it has been translated into a large number of languages.
Unfortunately there are clear signs of difficulties of maintenance. Tags are
regularly added with the wrong wiki variable copied and pasted that
Andy Townsend gmail.com>
writes:
> Because of the language difference I
suspect that the chance of a reply
> from this MAPS.ME user will be less than
from others (unless you try an
> address them in Korean - but that really
isn't difficult these days with
> machine translation).
>
> I've
You could put a note on the map in New Orleans saying what you think needs
checking locally.
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From: Dave F
Sent: 22 January 2017 10:50:19
To: OSM Talk
Subject: [OSM-talk] Destructive new 'contributor'
Hi
Some one from
Any interest in organising a distributed mapping party where we get together
round the world, attracting armchair mappers who haven't experienced field
mapping or just people with a casual interest? It could be a chance to promote
ourselves as the full extent of our project or we could have a
Presumably it means something like the
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:odbl%3Dclean tag. It may not be as much
use hete though.
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From: Nicolás Alvarez
Sent: 27 August 2017 20:01:16
To: Frederik Ramm
Cc: Talk
There was a script during the licence change that assessed whether or not
changes to names were copyrightable.
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From: Mikel Maron
Sent: 27 August 2017 19:51:05
To: Greg Morgan; Martijn van Exel
Cc: Talk Openstreetmap; Steve
How much use are you making of tools developed for identifying contributions to
be redacted in the licence change?
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From: Frederik Ramm
Sent: 28 August 2017 13:43:44
Cc: Talk Openstreetmap; talk...@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re:
While you can do that, it diminishes one of our most important offers, that we
have a map of the whole world.
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From: ajt1...@gmail.com
Sent: 20 August 2017 11:46:28
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk :
I would suggest that this is part of a wider malaise that the mission of the
wiki has become unclear.
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From: Roland Olbricht
Sent: 04 December 2017 08:42:46
To: osm-talk
Subject: [OSM-talk] Wiki Proposals: An OSM Echo Chamber?
M #379 2017-10-17-2017-10-23
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:13:14AM +0100, Tobias Knerr wrote:
> On 28.10.2017 12:06, Andrew Hain wrote:
> > His behaviour over the past years makes him a contributor of net
> > negative value.
>
> I have to disagree here. He's probably the single mos
Is there a tool that preserves bus route relations properly whlle correcting a
road currently mapped as dual carriageway to predominantly single carriageway?
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Generally, of course, yes, but there was a talk by someone who had estimated
the population of a seasonally inhabited village by mapping buildings that are
demolished each year.
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From: Jean-Marc Liotier
Sent: 02 July 2018 15:25:38
To: Vao Matua
Cc:
Should we ask for validation steps in editors to flag FIXME as a likely tagging
mistake going forwards?
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From: Mateusz Konieczny
Sent: 02 July 2018 18:42
To: Talk
Subject: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving FIXME=* to fixme=*
fixme tag is a
One of OSM’s strengths is, or should be, that we are a truly worldwide map.
Multilingual names are part of this. Excluding actual names from the map
database as “ought not” is no different from omitting casinos in a stand
against gambling or leaving the road number of the high street in your
It is now time to talk about banning Verdy p from the wiki permanently.
His behaviour over the past years makes him a contributor of net negative value.
It is exceptionally difficult to correct any mistake that he makes and as a
result people have cut down their contributions to the wiki or
Or a mass change from Name=Untitled Polygon (wasteful but not wrong) to
name=Untitled Polygon.
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From: Mark Wagner
Sent: 18 January 2018 19:07:20
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data, how can we contribute to
According to the Wayback Machine the last message was posted early in 2015.
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From: Sérgio V.
Sent: 17 February 2018 19:56:57
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-talk] diversity-talk: No such list
Hi, I've just realized
Hopefully anyone who revives the topic will find a way to avoid the
circumstances of the original list’s demise.
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From: Rory McCann
Sent: 19 February 2018 09:47
To: Sérgio V.; talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk]
From: Andrew Hain <andrewhain...@hotmail.co.uk>
Sent: 19 February 2018 21:50
To: Sarah Hoffmann
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page
It’s unfortunate that a new user mapping mistake has such unfortunate
consequences.
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It would be interesting to know how much of the problem is because of the large
number of languages tested, many with no pages on the wiki written in that
language.
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From: mmd
Sent: 29 July 2018 19:37:04
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re:
The wiki has definitely had problems recently and we should have a good
discussion about what we want from it.
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From: Paul Johnson
Sent: 10 August 2018 18:13:36
To: Tomasz Wójcik
Cc: Talk Openstreetmap
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs
This looks to be very comfortably within the computational ability of mobile
phone apps (“You could calculate it with AI” is a much less attractive
deletionist argument) so everyone who has implemented it by conerting
coordinates on the fly would seem to be doing the right thing.
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If they did sue, could Nomination, Osmand or OSM be liable if we implement it?
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From: Simon Poole
Sent: 11 August 2018 09:43
To: Blake Girardot
Cc: OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open
Location
Do you know whether the latitude and longitude on the plaque are in the WGS84
that we use?
From: Andrew Errington
Sent: 11 August 2018 10:56
To: mmd
Cc: Talk Openstreetmap
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open
Location
Can we find out what software is being used to send these notes?
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From: Doug Hembry
Sent: 20 July 2018 14:26:13
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] anonymous notes spam?
Yes. In the San Francisco Bay Area. Single letters "f", "k", and
Will there be a local team or does whatever can’t be done remotely need a visit?
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From: Grant Slater
Sent: 17 July 2018 13:55:05
To: Daniel Koć
Cc: Talk Openstreetmap
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] API a lot slower?
On 17 July 2018 at 13:42, Daniel Koć wrote:
The issue would be that we are asking someone to trust an external provider. At
worst we could be responsible for propagating their noncompliance with the GDPR.
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From: Kathleen Lu <kathleen...@mapbox.com>
Sent: 16 April 2018 23:11:11
To: Andrew H
When we ask mappers to discuss controversial edits or imports is it ever
acceptable under GDPR to direct people to a contact channel that is not
directly run by the OSMF?
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Interesting idea. The wiki dates from before OAuth of course, even before the
fiddle we implemented for trac and the forum. It must be just about the only
internal communication space not using the main accounts.
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From: Richard
You could say that every existing edit is by an “old” account and new ones
going forwards are by main site accounts which occasionally have the same name.
Perhaps you could link some of the old wiki accounts to the OSM user names
where they are known to be the same person.
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Could you give some examples so that the wider OSM community can do something
about it?
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From: Christoph Hormann
We already have quite a few people on the wiki who try to forbid mappers
accurately documenting widely used tags because these tags are
Will the board be following up with additional information as promised?
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From: Martijn van Exel
Sent: 10 December 2018 16:55:42
To: OSM Talk; OSMF Talk
Cc: OSMF Board
Subject: [Osmf-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint
Hi all,
On November 17, the
A question both to the current board and the candidates: Do you support normal
levels of Board transparency on this issue?
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From: Martijn van Exel
Sent: 10 December 2018 16:55:42
To: OSM Talk; OSMF Talk
Cc: OSMF Board
Subject: [Osmf-talk] Board decision
Is it worth mechanically removing any of the existing discardable tags from the
database as well?
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From: Dave F via talk
Sent: 17 March 2019 21:09
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of
This would be a good idea and it shouldn’t be confined to iD. This is just a
particularly acute example of something that sometimes happens in OSM. Ideally
there would be several developers there including iD.
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From: Christine Karch
Sent: 29 May 2019
Also:
Have a new team of developers code from the codebase of iD.
Write a new online editor from scratch.
Abandon online editing and tell everyone to use an offline editor.
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From: Simon Poole
Sent: 27 May 2019 11:07
To: talk@openstreetmap.org;
Just out of idle curiosity, do we know of any data consumers that understand
crossing=marked?
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From: Martin Koppenhoefer
Sent: 28 May 2019 19:00
To: Dave F
Cc: osm
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC
Am Di., 28. Mai 2019 um
Every tag documentation page has a grey pencil icon next to the description to
edit the data message. Maybe it could be made clearer.
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From: Joseph Eisenberg
Sent: 09 June 2019 12:59
To: osm
Subject: [OSM-talk] Wikibase items instead of usual templates
Some more advantages:
Data item descriptions can be added for tag values that have no need for
long-form documentation separate from the key.
Descriptions can be added in extra languages before anyone has the time to
write full documentation in that language; with support from Taginfo this
Is there any sign of mappers being part of an organised activity or of someone
having encouraged them to contribute?
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From: John Whelan
Sent: 29 June 2019 23:49
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Cc: Pierre Béland via HOT
Subject: [OSM-talk] Mali
I've been
Have you talked to the Data Working Group about this?
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From: 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
Sent: 03 November 2019 16:47
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Maintaining privacy as a casual mapper
I find myself being stalked by one mapper,
I strongly disagree.
It is perfectly useful to document the existence of tags in the database with
data items. For example one was created for the key sub_sea:type
[https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q4506] and it has been possible to
add this it is a discardable tag that the main OSM
Getting rid of the search link is definitely a good idea, there are also links
to artificial Wikidata items such as Q57977870 highway key in OpenStreetMap to
consider.
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From: Joseph Eisenberg
Sent: 03 May 2020 17:10
To: osm
Subject: [OSM-talk] Remove
See
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/Archive/2018/10/16#Q29637965
for another artificial item.
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From: Andrew Hain
Sent: 03 May 2020 18:22
To: Joseph Eisenberg ; osm
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Remove Wikidata parameter from
When you aren’t sure of the exact nature of a service road it makes perfect
sense to leave out the service= tag. If that makes it more prominent it’s the
fault of the renderer.
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From: Greg Troxel
Sent: 22 March 2020 16:46
To: Dave F
Cc: Dave F via
We could also look at the software Codidact and Topanswers have been writing.
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From: Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Sent: 20 May 2020 14:48
To: Tobias Wrede
Cc: Talk
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying
May 20, 2020, 09:28
The big problem I have with this manifesto is that it brings divisive North
American attitudes to a worldwide project. As a worldwide project, building a
community of mappers from the whole world is our most important single
diversity objective. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t encourage other
Is there a bot that does this or is someone prepared to write one?
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From: Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
Sent: 14 September 2023 10:39
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] When two bots go to war
Maybe there should be a general
I would like to congratulate the organising team in Nairobi and the SotM
Working Group for doing this. Giving the worldwide community a broader
understanding of the challenges of mapping Africa and using maps there is
positive step for OSM’s inclusiveness as a truly worldwide map.
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The Wikidata links haven’t gone away; they’re in the OSM data items where they
are easily machine readable and can be curated against accidental divergences
between languages. The other description arguments could just as easily follow
(there’s no problem with them being listed in the wiki
And you can put a comment on the changeset that deleted it.
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From: Marc_marc
Sent: 07 November 2022 13:48
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge
Le 06.11.22 à 20:25, Andy Mabbett a écrit :
> Someone has deleted the
Is there an imagery host that offers an OSM-friendly way to support mapping and
is suitable for contributions using a smartphone or tablet?
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From: Greg Troxel
Sent: 24 May 2023 13:31
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-talk] mapilio? (street-level
SomeoneElse lists@... writes:
I logged a bug with iD regarding the non-visibility of some items in
the background layer
menu:https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/1929#issuecomment-27236976
The issue that I actually logged is actually being addressed as part
of a different
Richard Fairhurst richard@... writes:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/announce/ :)
(it's a bit unloved though... needs more people volunteering for CWG to
help)
Could that go into the community blogs for people who follow OSM bu web pages?
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Andy Allan gravitystorm@... writes:
Great to see lots of other people diving in over the last hour or so! Be bold!
Cheers,
Andy
Northern Ireland is now free of OpenStreetBugs.
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Andy Mabbett andy@... writes:
I've tidied up and updated the documentation for Public Monuments
Sculpture Association PMSA references:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:PMSA_ref
...
For example, WMbiBIxx288 is now:
http://pmsa.cch.kcl.ac.uk/pmsa-database/6690/
Lester Caine lester@... writes:
and in this case, the street and other
location data can be provided by tags on a street rather than
duplicating that data unnecessarily on every building ...
Surely that’s what associatedStreet relations are for.
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Ed Loach edloach@... writes:
There is a bit in the wiki which recommends avoiding
transliterations:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Avoid_transliteration
It was only put in recently and I personally find it unhelpful. Would anyone
object to removing it?
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Philip Barnes phil@... writes:
I am going to use the horrible word, mechanical edit, but I feel it
needs sorting out.
I propose that nothing is removed, but the ref tag for tertiary and
unclassified is moved to official_ref. This will retain the data and
allow OSM to be used by those who
Philip Barnes phil@... writes:
I have carried out a first changeset, can anyone spot anything wrong
before I continue?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24727341#map=8/52.507/-3.796
Thanks
Phil (trigpoint)
References beginning with three or more letters or containing a
SomeoneElse lists@... writes:
I'd always assumed that the correct way to map turn lanes is via:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:turn:lanes .
However, some mappers in the UK* have started mapping each individual
lane as a separate parallel road. Here's an example:
Ervin Ruci of Geolytica gave an interesting presentation at SotM, now
available on video[1], about his efforts to build a crowdsourced postcode
database. Apart from technical matters he also talked about legal issues
with Canada Post.
Andy Allan gravitystorm@... writes:
This mailing list appears to be having some sort of immune-response
over-reaction. We don't like mechanical edits in general. Fine.
Therefore every mechanical edit must be fought against, to the bitter
end. That's an over-reaction.
No, that can't work
Betfred took over Totesport a few years ago but there are still tags
name=Totesport, name=totesport or operator=Totesport in Ashford,
Birmingham(2), London (2), Manchester (2), Northampton, Oxford, Rotherham
and Wakefield.
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Peter Davies peter.davies@... writes:
Does anyone know if the Europeans (of which I'm one, oops) have any plans
to create route relations? I have found none while in UK, NL, D, A, CH, I
and F this past two weeks, but perhaps I didn't look hard enough.
Route relations for roads have
But surely I can see no obvious harm in the presence of the relations. Also
searching the database by reference doesn’t always work, for instance not all
road segments tagged A1 in the UK are part of the road from London to
Edinburgh.
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From:
The next London pub meetup will be on Thursday 16th June at 7pm in the Monkey
Puzzle near Paddington station (http://themonkeypuzzlepub.co.UK). Sorry for the
short notice.
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I still get internal errors in a few places, for instance Richmond upon Thames.
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I’m getting internal server errors when I try to look at the previews.
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From: Edward Betts
Sent: 11 March 2016 15:46
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland
I've added
Well done and congratulations.
Building or land tags can go on multipolygons, in fact it manages cases more
complicated than this one better. It does seem silly to have just one tag in a
different place though.
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From: Edward Betts
John Aldridge writes:
> By ensuring that OSM data is of higher quality, or contains useful
> information still absent from those other sources. If we can't or don't
> do that, OSM (in the UK) will cease to have a purpose, and can be left
> to wither un-mourned.
Plus, usefully be
SK53 writes:
> many contributors do it not purely to add stuff to OSM, but for a multitude
of other reasons:
> to learn more about the places around where one lives;
> to get out;
> to meet-up with like minded people;
> to get some exercise;
> to go to the less obvious places;
> to
Christian Ledermann
writes:
>
> I'd also like to see an aggregator like
http://planetpython.org/ or
> http://planet.plone.org/
> to have a central place where all UK OSM
related blogs are consolidated
> which could be integrated in the main
website (see
Just out of interest, are unincorporated areas in Australia tagged with
boundary relations?
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From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>
Sent: 15 August 2016 12:00
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] ref:hectares on admin boundary, and
Every account that has ever been blocked has a link from the profile called
“Active blocks”.
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From: Paul Sladen
Sent: 17 August 2016 11:04:20
To: Will Phillips
Cc: Talk GB
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] ref:hectares on admin boundary, and
According to http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=2762871
edits in Brazil, Russia, the United Arab Emirates and Senegal have also
attracted criticism from locally knowledgeable mappers, looking like someone
who is at best out of their depth.
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