Re: [OSM-talk] When two bots go to war

2023-09-14 Thread Cj Malone
On Tue, 2023-09-12 at 15:06 +0200, Snusmumriken via talk wrote: > My speculation is that Distriktstandvården (a chain of dental > clinics) > has taken "ownership" of "their" nodes and once a day check that the > values in osm database correspond to that of their internal database. I've added a

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed bot edit: automatic replacement of surface values where it is safe

2023-11-03 Thread Cj Malone
I'm sure there will be edge cases where this bot gives us wrong data, but I think overall this will make OSM data better. Thank you for taking the time to improve OSM. CJ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed bot edit: automatic replacement of surface values where it is safe

2023-11-03 Thread Cj Malone
I'm sure there will be edge cases where this bot gives us wrong data, but I think overall this will make OSM data better. Thank you for taking the time to improve OSM. CJ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Edit - Bus stops status link & Bus lines timetable link (Tenerife)

2023-03-26 Thread Cj Malone
On Fri, 2023-03-24 at 20:33 +0100, Sören Reinecke wrote: > If these urls are following a fixed scheme like you mentioned then I > see no need to add the urls. There is no need to store them if you > can create them from a combination of the hard coded [url] and a > variable part retrieved by

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

2023-04-22 Thread Cj Malone
Sounds good to me. Thank you. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbl concerns

2023-07-03 Thread Cj Malone
On Mon, 2023-07-03 at 00:05 +, Robert C Potter (DTP) via talk wrote: > Google, Tomtom and Apple. Maybe it's not their preferred license, but they already use odbl data. CJ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbl concerns

2023-07-03 Thread Cj Malone
On Mon, 2023-07-03 at 18:03 +0200, Marc_marc wrote: > Le 03.07.23 à 16:10, Cj Malone a écrit : > > On Mon, 2023-07-03 at 00:05 +, Robert C Potter (DTP) via talk > > wrote: > > > Google, Tomtom and Apple. > > > > Maybe it's not their preferred license

[OSM-legal-talk] New data source

2020-01-16 Thread Cj Malone
Hello, I recently saw that some bus stop names are out of date in my area. I updated the one I saw ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/533814248/history) But the local bus operator offers this data under Open Government License Version 3.0. (https://www.islandbuses.info/open-data) As far as I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New data source

2020-01-17 Thread Cj Malone
nking about >importing) >Best, >Kathleen > >On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 5:26 AM Cj Malone wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I recently saw that some bus stop names are out of date in my area. I >> updated the one I saw ( >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/533814248

Re: [Talk-GB] Update bus stop names

2020-01-18 Thread Cj Malone
Hey Neil, I don't know which nodes you are talking about, but of the ones I'm looking at (where "name" != name from new NaPTAN data using "naptan:AtcoCode"). The vast majority haven't been updated in 10 years, since the NaPTAN import, or one edit where "naptan:verified" was changed to yes. I am

Re: [Talk-GB] Update bus stop names

2020-01-18 Thread Cj Malone
e stop area name. > >All this just goes to highlight that you will need to reflect carefully >on what the fields that you are updating in OSM should be before making >the changes - although I agree that in many places the data in OSM is >way out of date and desperately needs updating.

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

2020-03-20 Thread Cj Malone
"You can download our proprietary app, that uses our proprietary data, on 2 proprietary app stores, on 2 proprietary platforms. The app is open." Doesn't make much sense to me, but oh well. Seriously though, I added the only local place I know about. But would it be appropriate to contact some

Re: [Talk-GB] Q4 2020 Quarterly Project: Defibrillators

2020-10-13 Thread Cj Malone
On Mon, 2020-10-12 at 09:45 +0100, Jez Nicholson wrote: > What tags should I be capturing? phone=999 + indoors=no? access=code? I don't think phone=999 is necessary. Potentially adding the operators phone number would be more useful as people could report issues or vandalism. I think

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping a building that's two connected separate buildings

2020-10-13 Thread Cj Malone
You could also consider at Simple 3D buildings [1], in which case I think you'd have 1 building around the entire footprint and 3 building:parts. Cj [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_3D_buildings ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Q4 2020 Quarterly Project: Defibrillators

2020-10-13 Thread Cj Malone
On Mon, 2020-10-12 at 08:54 +0100, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > I've got the AED data from all the Ambulance Services in the UK apart > from Northern Ireland and London in my OSM comparison tool at > https://osm.mathmos.net/defib/progress/ . Much of the data is more > than a year old, but

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposal: Import EV charging point data

2020-08-18 Thread Cj Malone
On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 12:18 +0100, Steven Hirschorn wrote: > Are we allowed to put the points on a non-OSM map to ask local > mappers to survey? Legally I think it's a bit ambiguous, but current practice is to do exactly that. See tools like [1] where most of the data isn't compatible with the

Re: [Talk-GB] Farmfoods clean up

2020-05-27 Thread Cj Malone
On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 11:28 +0100, SK53 wrote: > I presume its being applied to Iceland (and Heron?) too. According to the name suggestion index it's recommended for Iceland but not for Heron Foods. From memory I think Heron Foods would probably fit frozen_food but their homepage exclusively

Re: [Talk-GB] Farmfoods clean up

2020-05-28 Thread Cj Malone
On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 12:01 +0100, Phil Endecott via Talk-GB wrote: > Cj Malone wrote: > > This also means shop=frozen_food, currently they are mainly > > shop=supermarket > > My local one was doing a roaring trade in 36-packs of loo roll > a few weeks ago. I b

Re: [Talk-GB] Farmfoods clean up

2020-05-28 Thread Cj Malone
Hello everyone, I've gone through this and done what I can. I've gone through the OSM listings and looked through Mapillary to add missing stores. I didn't keep the stats as well as I intended to, but I now think there are 327 Farmfoods stores, with 228 of them existing in OSM. They now have

Re: [Talk-GB] Farmfoods clean up

2020-05-27 Thread Cj Malone
On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 06:35 +, Ed Loach wrote: > If you can't copy the opening hours data, are you sure you can copy > the store reference? That's a good point. I guess I was thinking because it's in the url it's usable, but I don't know enough about copyright. I'll leave it out, unless

[Talk-GB] Farmfoods clean up

2020-05-27 Thread Cj Malone
Hello everyone, I'm intending on doing some maintenance on Farmfoods stores across the country, and looking for some comments before I do. I've been looking at it and as far as I can tell Farmfoods has 329 stores, with OSM having 223 of them. I don't think I'm going to go through Mapillary images

Re: [Talk-GB] POI files of Pub/Restaurant chain

2020-07-15 Thread Cj Malone
Hey, You'd have to contact them to ask what license those files are published under, or get explicit permission for it to be used in OSM. If you do make contact it may be better to ask for permission to use the store data from whole website which will include phone number, opening times,

Re: [Talk-GB] (no subject)

2020-07-15 Thread Cj Malone
Passenger does a lot of good stuff. There down stream customers use OSM, and credit it [0]. They release more up to date NaPTAN formatted data that NaPTAN its self [1]. Honestly it's a bit of a shame the OSM bus stop data is so neglected. Cj [0] https://www.islandbuses.info/explore [1]

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Cj Malone
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 17:30 +0100, Mark Goodge wrote: > But it's not reliable enough for an unfiltered bulk import; there are > duplicate entries, incorrect coordinates and incorrect or missing > addresses. We could turn this into an advantage of Open Data and OSM. Validation of other datasets

Re: [Talk-GB] Virtual meeting: New open data and towards more UK addresses

2020-07-02 Thread Cj Malone
I can't make it for 7:00 pm Saturday, will the discussion be recorded or notes taken? Cj ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] positioning of shop nodes as entrances

2020-06-30 Thread Cj Malone
>Personally, I don't like tagging the whole building as 'amenity=cafe' as it >is only the downstairs of the building being used for that purpose, which >is why they were nodes. I agree, it also means that shops on buildings sometimes have `level`, which doesn't makes sense. >So, is there any

[Talk-GB] Holiday camp tagging

2020-07-13 Thread Cj Malone
Hello everyone, I'm mapping a local camp site [0], and have a few questions regarding tags. 1 - It's mainly static caravans with some cabins, but it also has an area for tents/caravan pitches. It should tagged as one tourism=caravan_site with tents=yes, right? It's currently split into one main

Re: [Talk-GB] Holiday camp tagging

2020-07-13 Thread Cj Malone
On Mon, 2020-07-13 at 20:47 +0100, David Woolley wrote: > If separate areas have been mapped for tents and caravans, you should > not coalesce them. Is this not the same as amenity=university on each building though? Where the correct method is one closed way or relation with amenity=university

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

2020-07-04 Thread Cj Malone
On Sat, 2020-07-04 at 22:24 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: > What is needed is a means of adding LAYERS of data which can be > managed either via third party data sets, or manual edited using > existing tools to add data that is missing from the narrow view > confined to 'current' objects ... If I

Re: [Talk-GB] New Bing Imagery

2020-07-06 Thread Cj Malone
I was splitting houses in Portsmouth/Southsea this morning. The imagery is great, I don't know if it was part of this update, or if it's been like this for a while. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

2020-08-16 Thread Cj Malone
On Sat, 2020-08-15 at 20:55 +0100, Steve Doerr wrote: > On 13/08/2020 13:06, SK53 wrote: > > This location > > on > > Robert's site shows several UPRNs on streets: > > > > * 10009154384 on Averton Square > > > > That's a link to

Re: [Talk-GB] Q4 2020 Quarterly Project: Defibrillators

2020-11-14 Thread Cj Malone
> Firstly, I have seen a few buildings that have an AED pictogram sign > outside, suggesting that there is a defibrillator inside. Is this > considered sufficient 'on the ground' evidence to add to the map. > These are often locations that are noted up on the Survey Me! tool, > but not always. I

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN wiki page

2020-11-17 Thread Cj Malone
On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 14:10 +, Jez Nicholson wrote: > Whilst i'm here, am I correct that a UPRN can *only* be on a single > thing? > So anything in > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=ref%3AGB%3Auprn#values mo > re > than once is an error? > > ...or can a road have a USRN *and* a

[Talk-GB] Update bus stop names

2020-01-18 Thread Cj Malone via Talk-GB
Hello, I've recently found an open data set with more accurate bus stop names than OSM. Based on my limited survey of differences in OSM data and this data, theirs has been more accurate. Not really surprising, since it's there network, and most of the OSM data hasn't been updated since the

Re: [Talk-GB] Stale Developments

2020-01-10 Thread Cj Malone via Talk-GB
In that case wouldn't it be handy to add 'survey:date=-MM-DD'? Plus that bumps the edit date that'd push it out of this, and related out-of-date tools. On 10 January 2020 14:42:11 GMT, Andy Robinson wrote: >Excellent Robert, very useful. > >Note that brownfield sites can remain that way

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-05-25 Thread Cj Malone via Talk-GB
I think a lot of the confusion comes from the name suggestion index (some of the presets for iD) listing Boots twice. However basically all (if not all) of Boots in the UK are pharmacies, because they do prescriptions. In some regions this is not the case, Boots without prescriptions is a