Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

2004-09-05 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, > Now talking about moving. Of course it should *not* be possible to > apply colour groups or flags after moving, it doesn't make sense. Give up Thomas. This is a democracy and if the majority votes that water can flow upstream... ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escoria

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

2004-09-05 Thread MAU
Hello MaXxX, > Here's the fault in your reasoning. > > The program is: > > Fill your cup with coffee > Now put it in the cupboard > Now put 2 spoons of sugar in your cup > Now stir it > > We have a cup of sweet coffee in the cupboard. Change your program to: Fill your cup with coffe

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

2004-09-05 Thread MAU
Hello Marcus, My previous reply was incomplete. I intended to complete it after lunch but "I moved it to Outbox before parking it"... ;-) Sorry, I don't have the time now and, as I have already said in some other messages, I'm facing a quite busy week. -- Best regards,

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

2004-09-05 Thread MAU
Hello MaXxX, > Personally, I'd think sub-filters should be made as actions, > themselves. Then the order would REALLY matter where applicable, and > wouldn't matter at all where not applicable. With filters looking > like: > > (filter) IF subject contains "blah" THEN >(action) PARK MESSAGE >

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

2004-09-05 Thread MAU
Hello Boris, The big question is: If the actions in a filter are, and should be, executed in the order they are listed. >>> Answer is: Yes, the should be executed in the order they are listed. >> >> Thanks for replying :) > No problem. You are a great beta-tester, so why not reply? Bec

Re: Fitler scheme: should this work?

2004-09-05 Thread M i c C u l l e n
On Monday, September 6, 2004 @ 7:40:40 AM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: [snips] MicCullen>> The Filter structure - in Common filters - is: MicCullen>> Incoming messages MicCullen>>Other MicCullen>> The Bat MicCullen>> Mark read - Bayes, IMAP, etc MicCullen>> TBBETA - Juice MicC

Re: Bayesit061 crashing TBv3.0.x on plugin install

2004-09-05 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 12:47:17 -0800, Neal Laugman wrote: > I was having some TCP/IP problems that turned out not to be TB and > had uninstalled the bayesit plugin. Now it will not install in > v3.0.0 and v3.0.6 claims its not a valid plugin. The end result is > generally TB crashing. I don't beli

Re: Fitler scheme: should this work?

2004-09-05 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello M, Sunday, September 5, 2004, 6:21:13 PM, you wrote: MicCullen> G'day tbbeta, MicCullen> As I never use IMAP or Bayes filters, I want to MicCullen> mark posts regarding them MicCullen> read. (Well, posts with those subjects in the subject line.) MicCullen> The Filter structure - in Common

Re[4]: Catch all filter

2004-09-05 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Alexander, Sunday, September 5, 2004, 5:45:41 PM, you wrote: SC>> The term "Match" uses regular expressions , where as the term SC>> "Contains" just means that it is contained in the area you tell it to SC>> look. AL> Maybe... but I spent some time on problem-hunting: AL> Why filter AL> Subj

Fitler scheme: should this work?

2004-09-05 Thread M i c C u l l e n
G'day tbbeta, As I never use IMAP or Bayes filters, I want to mark posts regarding them read. (Well, posts with those subjects in the subject line.) The Filter structure - in Common filters - is: Incoming messages Other The Bat Mark read - Bayes, IMAP, etc TBBETA - Juic

Re: Address PIcker buttons?

2004-09-05 Thread Avi Yashar
On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 20:58:00 +0200, Mark Partous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sunday, September 5, 2004, 8:27:16 PM, Greg Strong wrote: > > GS> I still get the messed up address picker buttons from previous betas. I > GS> installed 3.0 over old installation. Anyone confirm on new beta or with > GS

Re: S/MIME: The issuer of this certificate chain was not found

2004-09-05 Thread Martin Webster
Hello Martin, On 05 September 2004, 23:35 +0200 (05/09/200422:35 local time) Martin Sebald [MS] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I know (almost) nothing about this kind of certificate. The only thing >> I can see, is it is being seen as a valid certificate. MS> Yeah and exactly that is the

Re: creating filters in mail ticker doesn't work right

2004-09-05 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sunday, September 5, 2004, 4:25 AM, you wrote: 9> Hello Paul, PC>> I just blew away all my old filters and started fresh. I did that to PC>> get RID of LOTS of old filters in the wrong accounts. PC>> What I just found out was that when I read mail using the MT ( mail PC>> ticker), and u

Re[2]: Unable to get Betas

2004-09-05 Thread Alexander Leschinsky
Hello Ian, On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 17:29:52 +1000 (05.09.2004 13:29 my local time), received Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 23:42:32 +0600, you wrote about "Unable to get Betas", at least in part: IAW> Glad it is confirmed. I thought I was going crazy! Well, with your old usernames (which ha

Re[2]: S/MIME: The issuer of this certificate chain was not found

2004-09-05 Thread Alexander Leschinsky
Hello Martin, On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 23:35:00 +0200 (06.09.2004 3:35 my local time), received Monday, September 6, 2004 at 4:20:41 +0600, you wrote about "S/MIME: The issuer of this certificate chain was not found", at least in part: MS> Additional information: When I "view" a root certif

Re[2]: 3.0.0.6: bugs

2004-09-05 Thread Alexander Leschinsky
Hello Richard, On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 01:20:22 +0100 (05.09.2004 6:20 my local time), received Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 23:42:24 +0600, you wrote about "3.0.0.6: bugs", at least in part: RW> Unfortunately I can quickly confirm that. Was BT record reopened? Or I have to do it? -- Best

Re[3]: Catch all filter

2004-09-05 Thread Alexander Leschinsky
Hello Stuart, On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 16:38:32 -0500 (06.09.2004 3:38 my local time), received Monday, September 6, 2004 at 4:20:39 +0600, you wrote about "Catch all filter", at least in part: SC> The term "Match" uses regular expressions , where as the term SC> "Contains" just means that

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

2004-09-05 Thread Allie Martin
Michael Geyer, [MG] wrote: > What are several "MOVE"s in a row supposed to do: move _one_ and only > one message, or create several copies of the original message? Moving the message more than once should move that single message twice. Why one would wish to do this is beyond me, but if he wishes

Re: IMAP: Setting root folder with UW-IAMP

2004-09-05 Thread Martin Webster
Hello Allie, On 05 September 2004, 10:03 -0500 (05/09/200416:03 local time) Allie Martin [AM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> However, I'm beginning to think that many of the problems I >> experience are due to the many settings and possible combinations >> for IMAP. I think Allie has alread

Re: Invalid HTML error again (was: Re: TheBat! 3.0.0.6 Post Release is now available)

2004-09-05 Thread Allie Martin
Richard Wakeford, [RW] wrote: > Not here unfortunately. One time every folder I tried gave me the > same message so the only option was to close TB! and start again. > I've never had it happen so violently as that before. Your use of the word 'violently' is very telling. Seeing the error come ou

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

2004-09-05 Thread Michael Geyer
Hi Allie and list, On Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 10:22:07 GMT -0500 (which was 17:22 where I live) Allie Martin wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of "NFS: Big question for 9Val": > I've been reading this thread and am a convert this POV. Though the > purity

Bug? Message downloaded again and again...

2004-09-05 Thread Krzysztof Trybowski
Hello all, I think I have fund a bug in TB, however I can't find the exact reason. The problem is that one message is received from server over and over again. Attached you can see the screenshot from mail dispatcher. Here is the description. There are two almost identical messages on my account

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

2004-09-05 Thread Allie Martin
Marcus Ohlström, [MO] wrote: >>> IF subject contains "blah" { >>>MOVE TO "\junk" >>>MARK AS read >>> } >> If we are talking about Incoming filters, which I think we are assuming >> most of the time, your above filter would end up with the message marked >> as read in the Inbox but not i

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

2004-09-05 Thread Allie Martin
Krzysztof Trybowski, [KT] wrote: > No, nobody is against it. The point is that whole your concept has > in fact nothing to do with execution order. What you propose is to > lose the track of a message when it is moved. This is a limitation. > Executing actions in order has nothing to do with this.

NFS: Filter's no longer autoadjust to folder renames (Re: IMAP: Renaming mailbox folders)

2004-09-05 Thread Allie Martin
Martin Webster, [MW] wrote: > If I attempt to rename a mailbox (black) folder without synchronising my > folders I get an AV: I just renamed a folder without problems. However, what's more important is that after renaming the folder I checked the NFS to see if it magically does what the OFS wou

Re: IMAP: Moving mails causes bluescreen

2004-09-05 Thread Martin Webster
Hello Michael, On 05 September 2004, 16:58 +0200 (05/09/200415:58 local time) Michael Schneider [MS] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MS> if i move mails from local folders to folders on an IMAP-server i MS> sometimes get a blue screen with following automatic reboot. Never seen that... never s

Re: TheBat! 3.0.0.6 Post Release is now available

2004-09-05 Thread Kevin Coates
Hi 9Val, On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 00:58:09 +0300 (5:58 PM here), 9Val [9] wrote in : 9> TheBat! 3.0.0.6 Post Release is now available from 9> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb3006.rar I'm getting a lot of HTML errors with this version. :( -- Kevin Coates Dewitt,

How to report bugs (was: Duplicate posts from Mary)

2004-09-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mary, On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 09:27:03 -0500 GMT (05/09/2004, 21:27 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: MB> So, is the procedure to report it on Bug Traq, or do the posts here MB> count as the report of the bug? The "official" procedure is to get confirmation here and then report it to BT. The advanta

Re: *** GMX Spamverdacht *** Re: TB 3.0.0: Chatfolder

2004-09-05 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Sunday, September 5, 2004, 12:03, Frank Weidmann wrote: > I just switched the xMailer-Header off. Do you see it also on this > message? No, all is fine now. :) See: > X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam) I really hoped the blacklist thingy did "die" away. IIRC, there were v

Re: IMAP: Setting root folder with UW-IAMP

2004-09-05 Thread Allie Martin
Martin Webster, [MW] wrote: > However, I'm beginning to think that many of the problems I > experience are due to the many settings and possible combinations > for IMAP. I think Allie has already hinted at this... Yup. The power is in the tuning. I wish to have more than merely hinted at this. :)

IMAP: Moving mails causes bluescreen

2004-09-05 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi if i move mails from local folders to folders on an IMAP-server i sometimes get a blue screen with following automatic reboot. This behavior is reproducible but it doesn't happen by every action. Some mails i can move, some i can not, unfortunatel

IMAP: Renaming mailbox folders

2004-09-05 Thread Martin Webster
Hello TBBETA, If I attempt to rename a mailbox (black) folder without synchronising my folders I get an AV: ,- | Access violation at address 00690DA2 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read | address 0080. `- However, if I press F2 (Synchronise all folders) before attempting to rename I recei

Re: Duplicate posts from Mary [was Re: Filters, coffee, and Mary ...]

2004-09-05 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Marcus! On Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 4:33:23 PM you wrote: > Certainly the Mary Bull filter should get triggered since the NFS is > instructed to continue filtering with other filters. Question is, > should the message appear in both the tbbeta folder and the MB folder, > or just in the

Re: Duplicate posts from Mary [was Re: Filters, coffee, and Mary ...]

2004-09-05 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Mary! On Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 4:27:03 PM you wrote: > So, is the procedure to report it on Bug Traq, or do the posts here > count as the report of the bug? I very rarely use BT ... -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.0 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 C

Re: TB! can't handle large messages

2004-09-05 Thread Luigi Rosa
Hello Martin, Sunday, September 5, 2004, 3:58:22 PM, you wrote: MW> I just tried to open a log file that was mailed to me today and got the MW> following result while TB! was attempting to load the message. BTW, I MW> was using IMAP but get the same result with POP3. It's a long stanbding bug:

Re: *** GMX Spamverdacht *** Re: TB 3.0.0: Chatfolder

2004-09-05 Thread Doug Weller
Hi Bernd, Sunday, September 5, 2004, 10:48:08 AM, you wrote: Bernd> Frank should disable the X-Mailer-Header in his User-Settings and Bernd> everything should work fine again :) I'm being slow today, where do I find this? Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Th

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

2004-09-05 Thread MAU
Hello MAU, >Start filter execution > Get message from Source folder into _Working area_ > Manipulate message _in_ working area > ... > Copy working area to some folder A > More manipulation allowed > ... > Move working area to destination folder B >

Re[2]: v.3.0.0.6 New filter problems!

2004-09-05 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello 9Val, Sunday, September 5, 2004, 11:11:06 AM, among other things, you wrote: 9> Hello Roger, RP>> The 'Park Message' action has been removed from the menu and all of RP>> my filters! RP>> 9Val, what's the story here? 9> Don't know, look to screenshots I've just made I've already

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

2004-09-05 Thread MAU
Hello MAU, > Much the contrary, it _broadens_ the possibilities of what can be done > with a filter. And I for forgot to add... Without the need of having to concatenate two or more filters (or one filter and several sub-filters), to establish the order of execution of some actions. -- Best re

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

2004-09-05 Thread MaXxX
On Sunday, September 5, 2004, at 12:11:49 PM, the old mahogany desk trembled gently as MAU began rapidly hitting his squeaky typewriter's keys: > That is exactly my point. To be consistent with what 'move' (which can > be considered equivalent to cut&paste) generally means, I think and > believe t

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

2004-09-05 Thread MAU
Hello Carsten, >> if (message_in_category()) { >>move2folder("CatHot"); >>if (!parentfound()) >> move2folder("CatOlder"); >>} > > if (message_in_category()) { >if (!parentfound()) > copy2folder("CatOlder"); >move2folder("CatHot"); > } Right! :) -- Best rega

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

2004-09-05 Thread Carsten Thönges
* Alexander Leschinsky writes: > Hello MAU, >> This is why I would say that *only_one_move_action* should be allowed in >> a filter. I don't see any need for allowing more, the copy action is >> there Agreed. > Well, I can see... Let's explain in pseudo-code (and let's don't speak, > that some c

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

2004-09-05 Thread MAU
Hello Peter, M>> Naaah! What for? It's easier to understand the way it works now. > > LOL... a little while after I sent it I read your phrase 'Enough of this > NFS stuff for a few days I think. :) ' > > Nawww, more Miguel/V3006 msgs up ahead ... hehe What can I say... ;-) -- Best regards, M

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

2004-09-05 Thread MAU
Hello 9Val, > The answer to both questions is quite simple. Remember old filters. If > you had a filter with destination folder and with 'mark parked' > checked you never had care about when TB! will actually park the > message. It is more natural way - order shouldn't be critical if

TBBETA Mission Statement

2004-09-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings Beta Listers, This is your monthly message from the moderation team to remind you of the primary purpose of this discussion list. To review the list rules, follow the link at the end of this message. Before posting a question to the list,

Re: NFS: Big question for 9Val

2004-09-05 Thread MAU
Hello 9Val, I apologise for my late reply. M>> This is why I would say that *only_one_move_action* should be allowed in M>> a filter. > > It is closer to truth :) and sounds like suggestion, well, will be > done Great! M>> I have actually replied to that I think. There should only be one m

Re: *** GMX Spamverdacht *** Re: TB 3.0.0: Chatfolder

2004-09-05 Thread Bernd Distler
Hi Thorvald! Just now (on 09/05/2004 at 11:39) you commented: > All mails from Frank Weidemann get classified automatically by GMX as > SPAM. >> X-GMX-Antispam: 5 (Score=4.3; FORGED_MUA_THEBAT_BOUN) > Does anybody know what this "FORGED_MUA_THEBAT_BOUN" means? Use Google ;) It says that it see

Re: some selective download filters not functioning

2004-09-05 Thread Peter Asenbauer
Hello 9Val, Sunday, September 5, 2004, 12:26:44 AM, you wrote: > Test today's version. If it fails - just give me examples of not > working combinations of filters/headers/files Here is an example: [x] load strings from file kill-test.txt I'll attach this file as well as the msg that s

Re: *** GMX Spamverdacht *** Re: TB 3.0.0: Chatfolder

2004-09-05 Thread Bernd Distler
Hey Frank! Just now (on 09/05/2004 at 12:03) you commented: > I just switched the xMailer-Header off. Do you see it also on this > message? Everything is fine now :) -- Bye, Bernd (http://www.bd-programs.de - ICQ 12962268) Ein Spruch von *1955), österreichischer Lehrer und Dichter: Steigerun

Re: Still 2 big flaws in 3.0.0.6 NFS

2004-09-05 Thread Daniel Friedmann
Hello Dierk on Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 08:50:28 you wrote: > Even better would be the Adobe solution: A Cancel button that > changes to Back when is pressed. That way any changes done can > be cancelled without shutting the window. Wow, this solution is really cool. -- Regards Daniel Th

Re: Still 2 big flaws in 3.0.0.6 NFS

2004-09-05 Thread Daniel Friedmann
Hello Kevin on Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 06:12:42 you wrote: > Maybe we could get an "Add" and "Remove" button too. Right-clicking > or pressing INS isn't immediately obvious. I second this wish. I couldn't find a button, searched the menu and found the entry for a new filter, however, there'

Re: TheBat! 3.0.0.6 Post Release is now available

2004-09-05 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Saturday, September 4, 2004, 23:58, 9Val wrote: > TheBat! 3.0.0.6 Post Release is now available from > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb3006.rar Oh, another question. Do you still expect us to delete our .srb files and try the filtering conversion, or can we keep our .srb file

Re: *** GMX Spamverdacht *** Re: TB 3.0.0: Chatfolder

2004-09-05 Thread Frank Weidmann
Hello Thorvald, hello tbbeta, > All mails from Frank Weidemann get classified automatically by GMX as > SPAM. > I found this in the headers: >> X-GMX-Antispam: 5 (Score=4.3; FORGED_MUA_THEBAT_BOUN) > Does anybody know what this "FORGED_MUA_THEBAT_BOUN" means? I just switched the xMailer-Header