Re: The Bat! 3.62.07 is now available

2005-10-30 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, at 07:25:03 [GMT +0100] (which was 7:25 where I live) Henk de Bruijn wrote: > On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, at 04:42:12 [GMT +0100] (which was 4:42 where I > live) Vili wrote: Show-stopper [-] (#0005248) Error message with change the language >>> ... >>> Changing the languag

3.62.05 MSI after install

2005-10-30 Thread Martin Schoch
Hi list Got message to restart the system after installing new 3.62.05 MSI. What did change TheBat in the system configuration? -- Best regards, Martin TheBat! 3.62.05 Pro on Windows 98 4 10 A install.png Description: PNG image Cu

Re: TB and gmail, errors when sending email

2005-10-30 Thread Jay Walker
On 10/29/05, Leif Gregory wrote: > I'm sending this through Gmail. The only problem I have with Gmail is that the Web interface (which I am using now) currently strips trailing spaces and hence corrupts the sig delimiter. However, this does not happen when sending over the Gmail server from TB. -

Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys

2005-10-30 Thread Tony Boom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29 Oct 2005, at 20:28, Randy wrote: > Are you sure? Everything else appears to work. You ask for help and then question it when you get it. To be able to use PGP/GPG you have to have either of the two installed. I use PGP 9 but I had to buy

After MSI install userdic.tlx is always overwritten

2005-10-30 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Hello Liste, After MSI install userdic.tlx is always overwritten. I have to restore it manually from backup. This was already the case in all previous MSI-Verions. The one who has no backup will loose his/her personalised spell checker dictionary without any warning. -- Sincerely Hendrik Oeste

Re: After MSI install userdic.tlx is always overwritten

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Hendrik, On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 you wrote in HO> After MSI install userdic.tlx is always overwritten. I have to restore HO> it manually from backup. This was already the case in all previous HO> MSI-Verions. I've never checked the Userdic.tlx before, just assumed it was there. However I've h

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Hello Vili, Sunday, October 30, 2005, 6:01:09 AM, you wrote: > Hello Thomas, >> 1.) If you have more than 10 filter conditions, you will have to wait >> several seconds (several minutes in case of 100 filter conditions) > Curiosity: is there ANY email client, that can handle this much filter >

Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys

2005-10-30 Thread Curtis
Randy wrote: AFAIK that is not enough. You have to install a version of PGP or GPG to get it to work. For Key Manager The Bat! uses PGP or GPG. Are you sure? Everything else appears to work. The internal implementation is based on PGP v2.x. That very early version doesn't support the key t

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Thomas, > 1.) If you have more than 10 filter conditions, you will have to wait > several seconds (several minutes in case of 100 filter conditions) > before the conditions are shown. The NFS gives possibility to create complex conditions and to see the conditions in more understandable way

Re: 3.62.05 MSI after install

2005-10-30 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Martin, > Got message to restart the system after installing new 3.62.05 MSI. > What did change TheBat in the system configuration? I guess, that's just a bug in MSI script - there is nothing TB! changes in system that requires system restart. -- Best regards, Stefan

still not fixed header encoding problems (was: Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available)

2005-10-30 Thread Vilius Šumskas
9>>> The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available from: 9>>> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ 9>>> [-] Other extra space characters were added in the middle of encoded header 9>>>fields >> Don't know what has changed exactly with encoding and decoding headers. >> But i can

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread 9Val
Hi Thomas, GS>>> you suggest that IMAP queue will be subject of next beta series. 9>> Yes, it is. And now, after release, it could be developed, because all 9>> this time it was delayed. TF> You may not know this, but IMAP was promised for v2 and has been TF> delayed ever since. Nobody believes

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Peter Fjelsten
9Val, On 30-10-2005 14:38, you [9] wrote in : TF>> You may not know this, but IMAP was promised for v2 and has been TF>> delayed ever since. Nobody believes it will be en par with existing TF>> IMAP clients in the next beta circle. Prove us wrong. 9> We are talking about IMAP queue, new version o

Re: 3.62.05 MSI after install

2005-10-30 Thread Jernej Simoncic
On Sunday, October 30, 2005, 12:30:57, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: > I guess, that's just a bug in MSI script - there is nothing TB! changes in > system that requires system restart. Guess: one of the files was in use during install, so Windows will replace it on reboot. -- < Jernej Simoncic ><><><>

Re: still not fixed header encoding problems (was: Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available)

2005-10-30 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hi Vilius! > This is only partially fixed in newest betas. See screenshot. This may be bug in sending engine's encoder, not in TB! decoder. I cannot tell that exactly until you give me example headers. -- Cheers! Stefan Current beta

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Peter Gannushkin
Hello 9Val, 9>>> 1. Is it unstable? PG>> It is unstable. But more important for me is that feature wise it is a PG>> downgrade from the v.3.0. That is why on my main computer I have TB! PG>> v.3.0.2.5. 9> Currently zero level is 3.60.07 and this version is above zero. What do you mean by sa

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Peter Gannushkin
Hello 9Val, Saturday, October 29, 2005, you wrote to me: 9>>> 1. Is it unstable? PG>> It is unstable. But more important for me is that feature wise it is a PG>> downgrade from the v.3.0. That is why on my main computer I have TB! PG>> v.3.0.2.5. 9> Currently zero level is 3.60.07 and this v

Re[2]: 3.62.05 MSI after install

2005-10-30 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hi Jernej! > Guess: one of the files was in use during install, so Windows will replace > it on reboot. That should be a system file to cause reboot, I guess... -- Cheers! Stefan Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re: After MSI install userdic.tlx is always overwritten

2005-10-30 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Sun 30-Oct-05 4:11am -0600, Hendrik Oesterlin wrote: > After MSI install userdic.tlx is always overwritten. I have to restore > it manually from backup. This was already the case in all previous > MSI-Verions. > > The one who has no backup will loose his/her personalised > spell checker dictio

Re: The Bat! 3.62.07 is now available

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Newman
Hello 9Val, 9> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi 9> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/intpack.msi They install fine as 3.62.08! -- Best regards, Richard Newman --- Using The Bat! v3.62.08 on W

Re: After MSI install userdic.tlx is always overwritten

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Newman
Hello Hendrik, Sunday, October 30, 2005, 5:11:06 AM, you wrote: HO> After MSI install userdic.tlx is always overwritten. I have to restore Confirmed here too. Wondered why I always seemed to be adding the same words back into my dictionary. -- Best regards, Richard Newman

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Stefan, On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:29:32 +0200 GMT (30/10/2005, 18:29 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Thanks for replying at length. I appreciate it. >> 1.) If you have more than 10 filter conditions, you will have to wait >> several seconds (several minutes in case of 100 filter conditions

Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62.07 is now available

2005-10-30 Thread Cees
Het was op zondag 30 oktober 2005 om 16:01 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The Bat! 3.62.07 is now available' : Hoi Richard, 9>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi 9>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/intpack.msi RN> They install fine as 3.62.08! indeed

send failure

2005-10-30 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Battyfolk, Am I the only person who has experience the periodic inability to send/save msg w the last two betas? Did something change in the 62 series? Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.61.05 Echo (Beta), BayesIt! 0.8.4, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329

Re[2]: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Vili
Hello Stefan, > things may be found in previous messages in TBBETA). I am sorry for lack of > communication with testers and users, but it takes really long time and we > have > too much job to do and, as I told you before, we are limited in resources. Thanks for this honest mail. -- Vili The

Re: 3.62.05 MSI after install

2005-10-30 Thread Vili
Hello Martin, > Got message to restart the system after installing new 3.62.05 MSI. > What did change TheBat in the system configuration? Try 3.62.07 MSI. -- Vili The Bat 3.62.07 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1 Current beta is 3

Re: still not fixed header encoding problems (was: Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available)

2005-10-30 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Hello Stefan, Sunday, October 30, 2005, 4:15:20 PM, you wrote: > Hi Vilius! >> This is only partially fixed in newest betas. See screenshot. > This may be bug in sending engine's encoder, not in TB! decoder. I > cannot tell that exactly until you give me example headers. Here you go. Every oth

Re: The Bat! 3.62.03 is now available

2005-10-30 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Saturday, October 29, 2005, 5:05:17 AM, Henk M. de Bruijn wrote: >>> I hope it's Kólsch ;-) >> That was quick. :-) > I have Thunderbird at hand as some sort of reserve :-) Please. Lets stick to beer and skip to fortified wines. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbird_(wine) -- Dwight A.

The Bat! 3.62.08 is now available

2005-10-30 Thread Bill McCarthy
Hello TB Beta List, As pointed out by Richard Newman, the current MSI delivers 3.62.08! It still destroys your user dictionary :-( -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.62.08 BayesIt! 0.8.4 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current beta is

Re: The Bat! 3.62.08 is now available

2005-10-30 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Bill, > As pointed out by Richard Newman, the current MSI delivers > 3.62.08! As said on German Batboard.de: Others release cutting edge nightly builds for testers, Ritlabs now establishes daily finals for end-users. Well, at least there's no difference between both relating to product quali

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Saturday, October 29, 2005, 9:55:15 AM, Manuel Breitfeld wrote: > huge amount of bugs which were introduced by fancy features and > unicode I seem to recall that there has been a loud and long clammer for unicode. If I am recalling correctly then, leaving alone the possible discussion about d

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Saturday, October 29, 2005, 12:45:23 PM, Manuel Breitfeld wrote: > which development process was interrupted by... fancy tabs. I was begging since v.1 for better ways to deal with flagged and parked messages and consider the tabs as a long overdue correction of a missing feature, not a fancy

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Dwight, > I seem to recall that there has been a loud and long clammer for > unicode. If I am recalling correctly then, leaving alone the possible > discussion about differentiating between fancy features, it isn't fair > to lump fancy features and unicode and be equally critical of both. The

Re: After MSI install userdic.tlx is always overwritten

2005-10-30 Thread Vili
Hello Hendrik, > After MSI install userdic.tlx is always overwritten. I have to restore > it manually from backup. This was already the case in all previous > MSI-Verions. > The one who has no backup will loose his/her personalised > spell checker dictionary without any warning. Write a BT, I sup

Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62.07 is now available

2005-10-30 Thread Vili
Hello Henk, > Sometimes I switch from Dutch to English and sometimes back. No need to > send my languagefile because I am using the international pack. Thanks > for the offer though! Try the newest 08. You find it on the RL site, at the Download section. -- Vili The Bat 3.62.08 on Windows XP 5.

Re: The Bat! 3.62.08 is now available

2005-10-30 Thread Martin Schoch
Hello Bill, Sunday, October 30, 2005, 5:45:01 PM, you wrote: > Hello TB Beta List, > As pointed out by Richard Newman, the current MSI delivers > 3.62.08! > It still destroys your user dictionary :-( Are you sure this isn't a hacked version? -- Best regards, Martin TheBat! 3.62.07 Pro on Wi

Re: send failure

2005-10-30 Thread Vili
Hello Jan, > Am I the only person who has experience the periodic inability to > send/save msg w the last two betas? Did something change in the 62 > series? Your sig. says 3.61... See my sig, that is the latest beta. -- Vili The Bat 3.62.08 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1 ___

Re[2]: still not fixed header encoding problems (was: Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available)

2005-10-30 Thread Vili
Hello Vilius, >>> This is only partially fixed in newest betas. See screenshot. >> This may be bug in sending engine's encoder, not in TB! decoder. I >> cannot tell that exactly until you give me example headers. > Here you go. Every other email client displays it correctly. I confirm it as a bug

Re[2]: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, >> which development process was interrupted by... fancy tabs. > I was begging since v.1 for better ways to deal with flagged and > parked messages and consider the tabs as a long overdue correction of > a missing feature, not a fancy addition. Agreed. Message list tabs are VERY us

Re[2]: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Vili
Hello Michael, > in September 2003. But absolutely unusable. Some improvements since then > (and one fullprice upgrade) Upgrade is 50%. And why did you pay it, if it was not worth it??? -- Vili The Bat 3.62.08 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1

Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys

2005-10-30 Thread Randy
Hello. Here's what Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed on Sunday, October 30, 2005 at 2:02:01 AM: > You ask for help and then question it when you get it. Strangely enough, I do. I don't blindly accept everything told to me especially when it doesn't make sense with my personal experience. --

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Vili, Am Sunday, October 30, 2005, 6:32:28 PM, schriebst du: >> in September 2003. But absolutely unusable. Some improvements since then >> (and one fullprice upgrade) > Upgrade is 50%. And why did you pay it, if it was not worth it??? Improvements were made, more were promised and there was

Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys

2005-10-30 Thread Randy
Hello. Here's what Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed on Sunday, October 30, 2005 at 4:27:40 AM: > The internal implementation is based on PGP v2.x. That very early > version doesn't support the key types used by a lot of PGP users. > Neither does it support some of the algorithms currently u

Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys

2005-10-30 Thread Tony Boom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30 Oct 2005, at 17:35, Randy wrote: > I don't blindly accept everything told to me > especially when it doesn't make sense with my personal experience. So in your personal experience PGP doesn't need to be installed before you can use it? I'd

Re[2]: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Vili
Hello Michael, >>> in September 2003. But absolutely unusable. Some improvements since then >>> (and one fullprice upgrade) >> Upgrade is 50%. And why did you pay it, if it was not worth it??? > Improvements were made, more were promised and there was a thought which > sounds like "ok. they get th

Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys

2005-10-30 Thread Randy
Hello. Here's what Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed on Sunday, October 30, 2005 at 9:42:45 AM: > So in your personal experience PGP doesn't need to be installed > before you can use it? I never wrote that. I wrote that everything appeared to work except the importing of keys. The Bat! has

Re: The Bat! 3.62.07 is now available

2005-10-30 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, at 18:20:18 [GMT +0100] (which was 18:20 where I live) Vili wrote: Hello Vili, >> Sometimes I switch from Dutch to English and sometimes back. No need to >> send my languagefile because I am using the international pack. Thanks >> for the offer though! > Try the newest 08. Y

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Vili, Am Sunday, October 30, 2005, 6:46:40 PM, schriebst du: > Someone does not answer other parts of the mail, because agrees with > that, dont you think. But lets be explicite: Oh, I apologize :-) I made other experiences with other users so I misunderstood you. Michael -- Jabber [EMAIL

Re: The Bat! 3.62.07 is now available

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Richard Newman & everyone else, on 30-Okt-2005 at 16:01 you (Richard Newman) wrote: 9>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi 9>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/intpack.msi > They install fine as 3.62.08! I downloaded it shortly after the announcement

Re: The Bat! 3.62.07 is now available

2005-10-30 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Alexander, >> They install fine as 3.62.08! > I downloaded it shortly after the announcement and have .07 here. If you download again now, there's really .08. Michael -- Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - OpenPGP 0xE59FD50D TheBat! 3.62.08 - Windows XP (Service Pack 2 Build 2600) Was mancher scho

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello 9Val & everyone else, on 30-Okt-2005 at 14:38 you (9Val) wrote: TF>> You may not know this, but IMAP was promised for v2 and has been TF>> delayed ever since. Nobody believes it will be en par with existing TF>> IMAP clients in the next beta circle. Prove us wrong. > We are talking abou

Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys

2005-10-30 Thread Tony Boom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30 Oct 2005, at 17:50, Randy wrote: > Is this unnecessarily argumentative sub-thread really worth pursuing > for you? Not really, I don't even use TB so I sure as hell don't give a damn about weather you get PGP working or not. Especially when

Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys

2005-10-30 Thread Randy
Hello. Here's what Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed on Sunday, October 30, 2005 at 10:04:22 AM: > Not really, I don't even use TB so I sure as hell don't give a damn > about weather you get PGP working or not. Especially when you > question and dismiss the advise people do give you. That's

Lost mail

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello, I'm still using TB! but, because so many people are talking about it, I thought I'd have a look at Thunderbird. Too much setting up to do to get it to work just now but I might just take the plunge as I wrote to a friend last week and saw, when I was looking at my Thunderbird messages (POP

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Stefan Tanurkov & everyone else, on 30-Okt-2005 at 12:29 you (Stefan Tanurkov) wrote: > I am sorry for lack of communication with testers and users, but it takes > really long time and we have too much job to do and, as I told you > before, we are limited in resources. I'm puzzled - again.

Re: The Bat! 3.62.03 is now available

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Dwight A Corrin & everyone else, on 30-Okt-2005 at 17:22 you (Dwight A Corrin) wrote: > Please. Lets stick to beer and skip to fortified wines. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbird_(wine) Oh, but that URL is unusable from TB. ;-) http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5254 -- Bes

Re: The Bat! 3.62.07 is now available

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Michael Schneider & everyone else, on 30-Okt-2005 at 18:58 you (Michael Schneider) wrote: >> I downloaded it shortly after the announcement and have .07 here. > If you download again now, there's really .08. What a mess. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 2381539

Re[2]: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Gleason Pace
Alexander, > I'm puzzled - again. Just from looking at the sheer number of coders that > are assigned to BT reports (9Val, VV, Maxim, Diman, you... forgot someone > for sure, sorry), I always thought there were many programmers, and that > *this* is the reason why "fancy features" make it into th

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Gleason Pace & everyone else, on 30-Okt-2005 at 19:40 you (Gleason Pace) wrote: > My only request is that one day I should have a TB that really works > well. Someone from Ritlabs should send you a reply. "Dear Gleason, we promise you, one day you'll have a TB that really works well". If t

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Gleason, Am Sunday, October 30, 2005, 7:40:49 PM, schriebst du: > I am critical of TB too, but I really don't see how lecturing the > programmers in this way helps. It really doesn't matter to me when TB > makes releases or how much I know in advance about releases, or how > RIT manages divis

Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys

2005-10-30 Thread Tony Boom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30 Oct 2005, at 18:09, Randy wrote: > That's the spirit! I know, chin up, stiff upper lip and all that :) > Toast goes in the toaster. Bread goes in the toaster, toast is what comes out. - -- Tony Boom PGP http://www.theboomclan.com/tbc.as

3.62.08

2005-10-30 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
Hello TBBETA, Also with this version I am continuously having AV's when changing language and when closing the program: Change language: Access violation at address 7C918FEA in module ntdll.dll. Write of address 0010. Exception EAccessViolation in module thebat.exe at 4AEE Acces violatio

Re: Re[2]: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Tony Boom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30 Oct 2005, at 18:40, Gleason Pace wrote: > My only request is that one day I > should have a TB that really works well. www.theboomclan.com/wish.gif - -- Tony Boom PGP http://www.theboomclan.com/tbc.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Ver

Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys

2005-10-30 Thread Randy
Hello. Here's what Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed on Sunday, October 30, 2005 at 11:15:34 AM: >> Toast goes in the toaster. > Bread goes in the toaster, toast is what comes out. Not to get off-topic (which, well, I am), my friends have gotten into amusing alcohol-fueled philosophical discu

Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys

2005-10-30 Thread Tony Boom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30 Oct 2005, at 19:31, Randy wrote: > my friends have gotten into > amusing alcohol-fueled philosophical discussions over that statement So the next time your in a drug crazed alcoholic stupor, ask your friends if a potato is a pre chipped chi

Re: send failure

2005-10-30 Thread Jan Rifkinson
On Sunday, October 30, 2005 it appears that Vili wrote the following in regards to "send failure": >> Am I the only person who has experience the periodic inability to >> send/save msg w the last two betas? Did something change in the 62 >> series? V> Your sig. says 3.61... V> See my sig, that is

Re: 3.62.08

2005-10-30 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Henk, Sunday, October 30, 2005, 8:16:26 PM, you wrote: HMdB> Does anybody else experience this, so I can make a BT? Sorry, Henk, no problem over here... I suppose you should be looking for external reasons??? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.6

Re: send failure

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Jan, On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 you wrote in JR> Yes, I know. I reverted because of the problem. So asking again, am I JR> the only person having trouble with send in the later 62 series betas? I'm honestly not sure if I'm having problems with send or not. All I know is, since starting to run Th

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread 9Val
Hello Alexander, ASK> Was the new IMAP queue part of a past beta version already, and ASK> has it been removed again? Yes, it was presented in beta/10 and beta/11. Reason of removal - it was not fully debugged before release ASK> If so, why wasn't this information part of the changelog, o

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread 9Val
Hello Alexander, ASK> In other, and very direct words: who makes the m*r*n decision to release a ASK> "final" overnight, without a Release Candidate, without a final chance for ASK> the beta testers to catch the last minute glitch? It was my decision, all stones to me. ASK> This is more than c

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread 9Val
Hello Peter, 9>> Currently zero level is 3.60.07 and this version is above zero. PG> What do you mean by saying "zero level"? Stability is relative. For end user it mostly measures relative to the previous release. PG> PS Spell checker is totally wrong in the TB! It was OK to have it like PG

Re: send failure

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Greg, On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 you wrote in GS> IIRC you use all POP accounts. Maybe a stupid question to ask you, but GS> how are you handling messages on the server? Regular connection, delete messages from server after 1 day. If I wasn't getting the messages at all then I'd not be so worrie

Re: send failure

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Wakeford
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 you wrote in RW> Well, in my case, I'd suggest it's all working properly as Thunderbird RW> receives everything with ease. I think I'm going to roll back a few RW> versions and see what happens. Back to 3.62.01 and this message came to TB just fine so I reckon there's somethi

Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello all, I know some of you will be surprised with the subject of this messages but, yes, it says what it says. I haven't had enough time (and my slow typing speed doesn't help either) to more actively participate in these past few days discussions about bugs, if they are showstoppers or cosmet

Re: Lost mail

2005-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello Richard, > I'm still using TB! but, because so many people are talking about it, I > thought I'd have a look at Thunderbird. Too much setting up to do to get > it to work just now but I might just take the plunge as I wrote to a > friend last week and saw, when I was looking at my Thunderbir

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello 9Val & everyone else, on 30-Okt-2005 at 22:17 you (9Val) wrote: ASK>> If so, why wasn't this information part of the changelog, or did I ASK>> overlook this? > You overlooked msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[-] IMAP revert to old queue Oh, OK. Sorry for the superfluous question. I read t

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello 9Val & everyone else, on 30-Okt-2005 at 22:27 you (9Val) wrote: ASK>> In other, and very direct words: who makes the m*r*n decision to ASK>> release a "final" overnight, without a Release Candidate, without a ASK>> final chance for the beta testers to catch the last minute glitch? > It was

Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys

2005-10-30 Thread Curtis
Randy wrote: Thanks for the details. Not to drag this off-topic but Tony suggested PGP. With The Bat!, is there any benefit for using one over the other? *IMO*, I don't like where PGP is going, i.e., down the road of creeping 'featuritis' and bloat that really doesn't serve well those with

Re: The Bat! 3.62.08 is now available

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Newman
Hello Bill, Sunday, October 30, 2005, 11:45:01 AM, you wrote: BM> It still destroys your user dictionary :-( Sure does. -- Best regards, Richard Newman --- Using The Bat! v3.62.08 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 on a Pe

Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-30 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU! On Sunday, October 30, 2005, 4:07 PM, you wrote: > I don't want to start any further discussion with this message, so > don't bother to reply unless you really think you can point a real > alternative for me ;-) I did read every word, and I have the perfect alternative for you: The B

Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Mary Bull & everyone else, on 30-Okt-2005 at 23:40 you (Mary Bull) wrote: > I did read every word, and I have the perfect alternative for you: > The Bat!, latest release version 3.62. I thought the same when I read the list of requirements. :) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.ne

Re: The Bat! 3.62.08 is now available

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Bill McCarthy & everyone else, on 30-Okt-2005 at 17:45 you (Bill McCarthy) wrote: > It still destroys your user dictionary :-( Has anyone filed a report on bugtrack yet? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: "Inverse" (3:40) by Bla

Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-30 Thread Michael Paluchowski
Sunday, October 30, 2005, 11:07:53 PM, you wrote: > One more last thing. I don't want to start any further discussion with > this message, so don't bother to reply unless you really think you can > point a real alternative for me ;-) "But, my lord, there is no such force." -- Michael Palucho

Re: Lost mail

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello MAU, On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 you wrote in M> I receive and send a lot of email daily and I have not missed a single M> message, at least I have not noticed. It is always dangerous to use two M> different email clients to access the same account(s) I didn't have Thunderbird installed when the

Re: send failure

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Greg, On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 you wrote in GS> Since you have dropped below the release version were you having GS> problems with the release version, or didn't you try it? I do recall GS> reading about install problems with the latest beta released which was GS> in a msi file. I normally dow

Re[2]: About release

2005-10-30 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi, GS you suggest that IMAP queue will be subject of next beta GS series. 9>>> Yes, it is. And now, after release, it could be developed, because all 9>>> this time it was delayed. Even if this will be the case, it's not good enough any more: Now you not only have to finally get IMAP wor

Re: send failure

2005-10-30 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Richard, > I'm honestly not sure if I'm having problems with send or not. All I > know is, since starting to run Thunderbird alongside TB in the last 48 > hours, I've missed two messages from different friends and two messages > I posted to TBBETA haven't shown up in TB! but all have shown u

Re: Lost mail

2005-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello Richard, > Well, I thought I was familiar with TB but it was Thunderbird that > picked up the errant messages and, since rolling back a few versions, > I've not missed a mail in TB. Why it should be just me is anyone's guess > and it's worrying but, for now, I'll wait until the next version

Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello Mary, > I did read every word, and I have the perfect alternative for you: > > The Bat!, latest release version 3.62. > > Aren't you pleased? :) Do you know the price? Is it very expensive? I'd be willing to pay a couple of hundred $$ for such beast, but if the price is higher... ;-) -- B

Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello Greg, > ... it sounds like TB is the perfect fit for you. > > Take care! Did you read my second to last paragraph? Can you shed some light about the difference between 'irony' and 'sarcasm'? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.07 on Windows XP

Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello Greg, > BTW I never bought you those beers. :) I'll log a BT wish for TB to be able to send cold beers as attachments. I'm sure RIT guys will implement this before a working IMAP ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Service

Re: Lost mail

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello MAU, On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 you wrote in M> All I can say is "That's weird!" and that will keep an eye. I just went back to version 08 for about 20 minutes and missed the messages from you and Greg, just copied them across from Thunderbird. I have no intention of using it but am so glad I de

Re: After MSI install userdic.tlx is always overwritten

2005-10-30 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Monday, October 31, 2005, Ian A. White wrote: > I went on to BT to see if there was a report that could be supported, > or start one. I could not find one, so decided to try and start one. I > gave up when I was asked which version I was using because the most > recent beta that I can g

Re: Lost mail

2005-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello Richard, > I just went back to version 08 for about 20 minutes and missed the > messages from you and Greg, just copied them across from Thunderbird. I > have no intention of using it but am so glad I decided to have a play > with it or I'd have missed about 20% of my messages, three of whic

Re: 3.62.08

2005-10-30 Thread Robert D.
Recently, Henk M. de Bruijn squawked: > Also with this version I am continuously having AV's when changing > language and when closing the program: Tested for this and am NOT having problems here, WinME, closing or changing language. -- Robert D. _ The Bat! Version:

Re: Lost mail

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello MAU, On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 you wrote in M> Have you looked at the account log? At the start of each connection to M> your server it should tell you how many messages are there in your M> mailbox and how many of those are new. Yes, all messages are sent. I have my messages going to TBBETA an

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, ST>> Before we find a solution, I would recommend a trick that would help in most ST>> cases - instead of numerous conditions of the same type I would recommend to use ST>> a single condition with multiple alternatives, i.e. instead of > > [...] > > 9Val recommended the same workar

Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-30 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU! On Sunday, October 30, 2005, 5:08 PM, you wrote: >> I did read every word, and I have the perfect alternative for you: >> >> The Bat!, latest release version 3.62. >> >> Aren't you pleased? :) > Do you know the price? Is it very expensive? I'd be willing to pay a > couple of hundred $

Re: About release

2005-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello Stefan, > Another possibility should become available soon - specifying the folder to > store a message in for each new message and providing macros for doing so. > This > is a long standing wish and it was already given as a task to the team. > I think what most people is asking for is th

Re: Lost mail

2005-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello Richard, > Yes, all messages are sent. I have my messages going to TBBETA and TBUDL > message lists sent to the Trash folder as the mail comes back from the > Yahoo group and then it's all easily filtered to the two folders. Maybe > I shall have to filter out my returning messages and put th

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