On Monday, July 26, 2010, 9:20:45 PM, Gene Kearns wrote:
> HOWEVER, tonight's
> experiences with Version 4 makes it clear that Backup and Restore just
> doesn't work.
you are using an awfully old beta. couldn't more recent versions
perhaps perform better?
--
Dwight A. Corrin
316.
Hi Marek,
As a small request for the new version, could it be possible to manualy choose
S/Mime certificates and not only choose a certificate with a matching email
address ? It's a long time request on this list, added on the bug tracker
begining of this year...
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/vi
Hello all,
Monday, June 14, 2010, Martin Schneider wrote:
> Well, I think real The Bat users did buy an upgrade soon after the new
> version came out. In my eyes the bigger problem is the lag of IMAP
> support (which was promised), no real plugin functionality (ala
> Thunderbird), etc.
Hi Martin,
Monday, June 14, 2010, 3:28:02 PM, you wrote:
> Well, I think real The Bat users did buy an upgrade soon after the new
> version came out. In my eyes the bigger problem is the lag of IMAP
> support (which was promised), no real plugin functionality (ala
> Thunderbird), etc.
Hello Gleason,
Saturday, June 19, 2010, 11:57:42 AM, you wrote:
G> There probably isn't much point in us discussing what Rit should
G> do. They will decide and let us know. MS is the only software
G> provider I know of that provides fixes for past versions of
G> anything. The overhead gets overw
Gleason wrote:
Stephane Bouvard wrote:
Hi Maxim,
Le dimanche 13 juin 2010 à 18:45:36, vous écriviez :
The registration system will be changed. We didn’t yet completely
figured out the final changes to the registration system, but the
preliminary changes are the following: registration will
Stephane Bouvard wrote:
Hi Maxim,
Le dimanche 13 juin 2010 à 18:45:36, vous écriviez :
The registration system will be changed. We didn’t yet completely figured out
the final changes to the registration system, but the preliminary changes are
the following: registration will allow usin
Hi Maxim,
Le dimanche 13 juin 2010 à 18:45:36, vous écriviez :
> The registration system will be changed. We didn’t yet completely figured out
> the final changes to the registration system, but the preliminary changes are
> the following: registration will allow using The Bat! for a particular
Hello Ian,
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:08:20 +1000 GMT (17/Jun/10, 13:08 PM +0700 GMT),
Ian A. White wrote:
IAW> So, you can see, the road to subscriptions can be quite rocky. It
IAW> gives the software vendor a somewhat better revenue stream (no
IAW> issues with that), however it does also demand mor
> G'day Jay,
> On Thursday, June 17, 2010, at 3:49:10 PM, you (Jay Walker) wrote:
JW>> 2010/6/14 Ian A. White :
>>> So I take it that The Bat! is going to move to a subscription model?
JW>> Ian, it doesn't strike me as much of a move. For just about all
JW>> practical purposes, TB licensing has
2010/6/14 Ian A. White :
> So I take it that The Bat! is going to move to a subscription model?
Ian, it doesn't strike me as much of a move. For just about all
practical purposes, TB licensing has been a subscription model since
v2.0. :)
--
jaywalker
Windows XP Pro SP3
The Bat! Pro 4.2.36.4 OTFE
Hello, Graham.
You wrote on Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 9:08:33 PM:
> If this 'trial' upgrade is available then the user would at
> the ned of the trial have a message to request the user to
> pay up or revert to the version they were previously using.
Yes, this will be possible. The user will be ab
Hello Maxim,
you wrote and made these points on the subject of - New versions of The Bat!:
>> So the version the user has when the subscription expires will
>> continue to work and he will just not be able to upgrade? Or will his
>> current version stop working?
Maxim M
Hello F.P.,
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:18:36 +0200 GMT (15/Jun/10, 23:18 PM +0700 GMT),
F.P. wrote:
>> The registration system will be changed. We didn’t yet completely
>> figured out the final changes to the registration system, but the
>> preliminary changes are the following: registration will all
Hi,
>The registration system will be changed. We didn’t yet completely figured
out the final changes to the registration system, but the preliminary
changes are the following: registration will allow using The >Bat! for a
particular period of time.
Time to say goodby.
You fix html-views bugs in 5
Hi Gleason,
> IMAP.
Exactly.
Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
On Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 1:12:35, Franz Schoeler wrote:
> Did you know that you in fact do not own (!) are not the real owner
> of your MS OS? Ever read the EULA? That you are not allowed to sell
> it or your paid-for Office??? At least seperately, only with your complete
> computer?
That actu
lunes, 14 jun 2010 at 15:42, it seems you wrote:
>> Hello all,
> Monday, June 14, 2010, Franz Schoeler wrote:
> You have no antispam/antivir/macro plugin installed?
> no, definitely not. Only use Avira Antir Premium every 3 or 4 weeks; never
> found anything...
We should need to know how man
Hello Ian,
Monday, June 14, 2010, 8:29:24 AM, you wrote:
IAW> Actually, the only issue for me is not that The Bat! is moving to a
IAW> "subscription"model, but that the language used cloaks it in something
IAW> else.
Well whether it is called 'subscription' pricing or not, does not
really bother
Hello Ian,
Sunday, June 13, 2010, 6:14:38 PM, you wrote:
IAW> So I take it that The Bat! is going to move to a subscription model?
That is certainly what it sounds like.
Now I don't mind that in principal, =but=
1.) what will the subscription cost?
2.) Rit would also need to address the issue
> On Sunday, June 13, 2010, 6:54:33 PM, Franz Schoeler wrote:
> will The Bat! then start/boot again in tenths of seconds instead of
> 29 seconds as right now on this computer?
I think they may charge extra to diagnose your computer problems.***
> btw: Does anyone like programs that are practi
On Sunday, June 13, 2010, 6:54:33 PM, Franz Schoeler wrote:
> will The Bat! then start/boot again in tenths of seconds instead of
> 29 seconds as right now on this computer?
I think they may charge extra to diagnose your computer problems.
> btw: Does anyone like programs that are practically
Alto,
On 13-06-2010 23:30, you wrote in :
> With this proposed system, a user expects "his" bugs to be fixed
> inside his term of payment. Up until now, a year's time was about
> nothing for the developement of TheBat - see all the bug tracker
> entries that have been around since the turn of the
Ian,
G'day Dierk,
On Monday, June 14, 2010, at 5:13:41 PM, you (Dierk Haasis) wrote:
DH> Actually RITLabs, with all shortcomings, already delivers quite well,
DH> though mainly under the guise of 'beta'.
Actually, the only issue for me is not that The Bat! is moving to a
"subscription"mode
Hello Franz,
Monday, June 14, 2010, 3:39:13 PM, you wrote:
> I wonder if I should delete The Bat! and re-install it from scratch
> as I don't understand why it's become booting so slowly.
No, please not delete it. It should run properly as is. I will get
back to you later to figure out w
Hello Dierk,
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:21:57 +0200 GMT (14/Jun/10, 14:21 PM +0700 GMT),
Dierk Haasis wrote:
>> Or will his current version stop working?
DH> You mean as with all other programs sold on a 1-year
DH> investment-into-the-future basis?
No, I meant with *this* program. I mistakenly assu
Hello Maxim,
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:07:14 +0300 GMT (14/Jun/10, 18:07 PM +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin wrote:
>> So the version the user has when the subscription expires will
>> continue to work and he will just not be able to upgrade? Or will his
>> current version stop working?
MM> The user wi
Maxim,
On 14-06-2010 13:07, you wrote in :
>> Seeing how many years are between major versions, and full IMAP support
>> having been promised for v2 (that was sometime in the last century), I think
>> you will lose most of your customers unless you fix the old bugs and deliver
>> on your promises
Hello Marck,
Monday, June 14, 2010, 3:02:47 PM, you wrote:
> The previous licensing system didn't allow you to upgrade to the
> next version on a version number change, however recently you bought
> your key. The new system does and *that's the only difference*! What
> was the reaction of folks w
> Hello all,
Monday, June 14, 2010, Franz Schoeler wrote:
> 27 address book entries/names - not really very many.
> Only one account.
> Don't run over a network, one provider.
> I wonder if I should delete The Bat! and re-install it from scratch as I
> don't understand why it's become booting
Hello Ian!
On Monday, June 14, 2010 at 2:29:24 PM you wrote:
> Actually, the only issue for me is not that The Bat! is moving to a
> "subscription"model, but that the language used cloaks it in something
> else.
Although I am a non-native speaker of English - German at that! - I
tend to give no
Hello Marck!
On Monday, June 14, 2010 at 3:02:47 PM you wrote:
> This is no different from the previous licensing model. RIT are NOT
> moving to a subscription model
Let's face it, I was the one describing the new model as a
subscription [to service and support as added value to buying the
progr
Dear Ian,
@14-Jun-2010, 22:29 +1000 (14-Jun 13:29 here) Ian A. White [IAW] in
mid:484593561.20100614222...@wai.com.au said to Dierk:
...
IAW> To RITLabs credit, they are not having the software "fail to run"
IAW> unless a valid subscription is present, just upgrades.
This is no different from t
Hello all,
Monday, June 14, 2010, Franz Schoeler wrote:
> 27 address book entries/names - not really very many.
> Only one account.
> Don't run over a network, one provider.
> I wonder if I should delete The Bat! and re-install it from scratch as I
> don't understand why it's become booting so
> Hello, Franz.
You wrote on Monday, June 14, 2010, 2:54:33 AM:
> will The Bat! then start/boot again in tenths of seconds instead of
> 29 seconds as right now on this computer?
Let us figure why it starts so slowly. How many folders and address
book entries do you have, how many plugins, etc..
Hi Maxim!
> You have addressed the important issue. That's why we plan to allow
> the users who have purchased The Bat! key for version 4 since February
> 7, 2008 (or later) to get updates of version 5 during about a year
> without payment.
I was surprised that no one raised that question up
Hello Thomas,
Monday, June 14, 2010, 6:12:18 AM, you wrote:
> So the version the user has when the subscription expires will
> continue to work and he will just not be able to upgrade? Or will his
> current version stop working?
The user will be unable to upgrade, but the current version w
Hello, Franz.
You wrote on Monday, June 14, 2010, 2:54:33 AM:
> will The Bat! then start/boot again in tenths of seconds instead of
> 29 seconds as right now on this computer?
Let us figure why it starts so slowly. How many folders and address
book entries do you have, how many plugins, etc.. Do
Hello Thomas!
On Monday, June 14, 2010 at 5:12:18 AM you wrote:
> Or will his current version stop working?
You mean as with all other programs sold on a 1-year
investment-into-the-future basis?
> Also kindly advise about tech support the user will receive - TBUDL is
> free for all at the momen
Hello Franz!
On Monday, June 14, 2010 at 1:54:33 AM you wrote:
> What's happening here? The same cost-intensive upgrade routine as
> with some other software manufacturers is planned?
Actually RITLabs, with all shortcomings, already delivers quite well,
though mainly under the guise of 'beta'. I
Hello Maxim,
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:45:36 +0300 GMT (13/Jun/10, 23:45 PM +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin wrote:
MM> The new version will be version 5.0.
MM> The registration system will be changed. We didn’t yet completely
MM> figured out the final changes to the registration system, but the
MM> preli
> Hello, Tbbeta.
The new version will be version 5.0.
The registration system will be changed. We didn’t yet completely figured out
the final changes to the registration system, but the preliminary changes are
the following: registration will allow using The Bat! for a particular period
of tim
Hi,
MM> The new version will be version 5.0. The registration system will
MM> be changed [...] Upon the expiration of the term, no updates to
MM> newer versions will be possible unless the user prolongs the
MM> period by paying the fee.
You realize that using this modus RIT will have to start de
Hi Maxim,
Sunday, June 13, 2010, 10:45:36 AM, you wrote:
Hello, Tbbeta.
The new version will be version 5.0. The registration system will be
changed. We didn’t yet completely figured out the final changes to
the registration system, but the preliminary changes are the
following: registration
Hello, Vilius.
You wrote on Sunday, June 13, 2010, 7:53:12 PM:
> Does this mean that The Bat will finally work on supported Windows
> versions only and will make advances of those version? Like Jump
> Lists, etc.
We didn't work on Windows-specific features like Jump-lists of Windows
7.
> ever made from version to version. We have removed 1.7MB or old
> source code so far, and are using the new code instead. The program
Does this mean that The Bat will finally work on supported Windows
versions only and will make advances of those version? Like Jump
Lists, etc.
--
Bes
Hello, Tbbeta.
The new version will be version 5.0.
The registration system will be changed. We didn’t yet completely figured out
the final changes to the registration system, but the preliminary changes are
the following: registration will allow using The Bat! for a particular period
of time.
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