Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

On Thursday, October 21, 2004, 6:11:00 PM, Allie Martin wrote: >> I've no intention to actually search for the court decision just >> reached a few weeks ago that e-mail is not admissible evidence >> because it can be tinkered with. > Even if digitally signed with a verifiable PGP/SMIME signature

Re[2]: Feature wish - edit subject line

On Thursday, October 21, 2004 it appears that Allie Martin wrote the following in regards to "Feature wish - edit subject line": AM> I'm not surprised that this would be the courts position on unsecured AM> e-mail. The way to battle this problem wouldn't be to make it

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Allie! On Friday, October 22, 2004 at 1:11:00 AM you wrote: > Even if digitally signed with a verifiable PGP/SMIME signature? Yes. the German Ministry of the Interior is working on a centralised and completely new electronic signature for years now; they don't want the decentralised way PG

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

On Thursday, October 21, 2004 at 11:42:57 AM [GMT -0500], Dierk Haasis wrote: > I've no intention to actually search for the court decision just > reached a few weeks ago that e-mail is not admissible evidence > because it can be tinkered with. Even if digitally signed with a verifiable PGP/SMIME

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Dwight! On Thursday, October 21, 2004 at 9:03:27 AM you wrote: > If it doesn't do that, it isn't inadequate. Now, I do understand that sentence as you intended as "... it isn't adequate." I've rarely used the memo function and then only to include notes to myself. So I can't at the moment

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Dwight! On Thursday, October 21, 2004 at 8:44:32 AM you wrote: > I don't understand why you think you should fight Didn't, just reminded you of a feature that is intended to do what you asked for before: adding notes to a message. > I challenge you to find one court opinion, in any jurisd

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

On Thursday, October 21, 2004, 1:44:32 AM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: > I don't want a memo function, I want to be able to edit headers, fix > threads, and type notes in the bodies of messages. I mean edit subject, not headers. I thought about this a little more. Just saying memo function isn't enou

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

On Thursday, October 21, 2004, 12:44:43 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: > TB has the Memo function for that. I don't want a memo function, I want to be able to edit headers, fix threads, and type notes in the bodies of messages. I don't understand why you think you should fight my ability to get more fu

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Dwight! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004 at 10:03:25 PM you wrote: > Dierk, have you ever made a note in the margin of a book or magazine? Surely. > Would it be offensive to make a note on a letter one received, or put > a post-it note there? Why should I have to tinker to do it on my own >

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

On Monday, October 18, 2004, 12:25:13 PM, Doug Weller wrote: Dierk>> Because it stands to reason if a !good e-mail client" should Dierk>> allow this kind of tinkering. > Others do. What's the reason not to allow it in TB? It isn't tinkering, > it's editing. I can already delete attachments, whic

Re[2]: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello, DAC> Why should one have to have another app to do what a good email client DAC> should allow: ability to edit both subject and text of incoming DAC> emails (as well as repair threads) I've had the need to edit a subject, date (when their clock was way off, in order to have proper chronolo

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Dierk, On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:40:28 +0200 GMT (19/10/2004, 00:40 +0700 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH> I am not a great friend of tinkering with message texts or headers of DH> received messages, mainly for jurisdictional reasons. When messages DH> can easily be edited in that way (change of

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hi Dierk, Monday, October 18, 2004, 6:40:28 PM, you wrote: Dierk> Hello Doug! Dierk> On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 7:25:13 PM you wrote: >> Others do. What's the reason not to allow it in TB? It isn't tinkering, >> it's editing. I can already delete attachments, which is editing. Dierk> Goo

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Doug! On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 7:25:13 PM you wrote: > Others do. What's the reason not to allow it in TB? It isn't tinkering, > it's editing. I can already delete attachments, which is editing. Good point. I am not a great friend of tinkering with message texts or headers of recei

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

On 18/10/2004 at 11:56:25 AM, Dierk Haasis, [DH] wrote: > Because it stands to reason if a !good e-mail client" should allow > this kind of tinkering. It already does. Just export the message to file. Tinker at will. Import the 'tinkered' message and delete the original. This is very easy to do t

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hi Dierk, Monday, October 18, 2004, 5:56:25 PM, you wrote: Dierk> On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 6:33:24 PM you wrote: >> Why should one have to have another app to do what a good email client >> should allow: Dierk> Because it stands to reason if a !good e-mail client" should allow Dierk> thi

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hi Dierk, Monday, October 18, 2004, 5:41:33 PM, you wrote: Dierk> Hello Doug! Dierk> On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 8:48:50 AM you wrote: >> Sorry, I wasn't writing what I meant to write. If, in a thread, someone's ISP >> adds a [Probably Spam] to the subject line, and that person replies wit

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Dwight! On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 6:33:24 PM you wrote: > Why should one have to have another app to do what a good email client > should allow: Because it stands to reason if a !good e-mail client" should allow this kind of tinkering. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept T

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Doug! On Monday, October 18, 2004 at 8:48:50 AM you wrote: > Sorry, I wasn't writing what I meant to write. If, in a thread, someone's ISP > adds a [Probably Spam] to the subject line, and that person replies without > deleting the [Probable Spam] from the subject line, then there is nothi

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

On Sunday, October 17, 2004, 4:51:55 AM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: > Hello Doug Weller & everyone else > 16-Okt-2004 16:54, you wrote: >> I'd really like an easy way to do some editing. > Isn't xrayapp made exactly for that? Why should one have to have another app to do what a good email client

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

On 18/10/2004 at 1:48:50 AM, Doug Weller, [DW] wrote: > Sorry, I wasn't writing what I meant to write. If, in a thread, > someone's ISP adds a [Probably Spam] to the subject line, and that > person replies without deleting the [Probable Spam] from the subject > line, then there is nothing I can do

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

On 18/10/2004 at 12:17:23 AM, Doug Weller, [DW] wrote: > Ok. I really hate the nannying thing though if it's still true RitLabs > won't do this because we might misuse it. AFAIK, Ritlabs has never posted an official statement on why this feature has not been provided. If you're not too concerned

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Michael, On Sunday, October 17, 2004 at 7:02:19 AM Michael [MLW] wrote: MLW> Sig too long, 4-6 lines, I count 8. This clearly shows: you can count, at least 'til 8 (12 if one read the other message too). Now you're going to to ... what? You did not even quoted correctly, but you're blaming

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Quoting Dierk Haasis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello Doug! > > On Sunday, October 17, 2004 at 8:49:03 PM you wrote: > > > Ok. My ISP adds a [Probable Spam] to THIS email. > > > I leave it there and hit send. Go ahead and set an option somewhere to > remove it > > from my reply when you receive it

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hi TBBETA, Historians believe that on 18 October 2004, at 01:05:43 -0500 (which was 07:05 where I live) Bill McCarthy wrote < ... > >> So it looks like you can pass parameters to the batch file one of them >> can be folder name. >> Not tried but might. > I tried. With the following command li

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

On Mon 18-Oct-04 12:39am -0400, David Elliott wrote: > Salutation TBBETA, > Rumour believes that on 18 October 2004, at > 20:36:55 -0500 (which was > 02:36 where I live) Bill McCarthy wrote > < ... > >> Here's the filter: > < ... > > Looks a bit like mine. >> Modify both for your own system

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Salutation TBBETA, Rumour believes that on 18 October 2004, at 20:36:55 -0500 (which was 02:36 where I live) Bill McCarthy wrote < ... > > Here's the filter: < ... > Looks a bit like mine. > Modify both for your own system and favorite editor. If we could > only pass on the name of the folder

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Doug! On Sunday, October 17, 2004 at 8:49:03 PM you wrote: > Ok. My ISP adds a [Probable Spam] to THIS email. > I leave it there and hit send. Go ahead and set an option somewhere to remove it > from my reply when you receive it. I don't think you can. I am not quite clear why your ISP

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hi Alexander, Sunday, October 17, 2004, 10:28:21 PM, you wrote: Alexander> Hello Doug Weller & everyone else Alexander> 17-Okt-2004 20:51, you wrote: I'd really like an easy way to do some editing. Alexander>>> Isn't xrayapp made exactly for that? >> Why should I need to run another pro

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

On Sun 17-Oct-04 4:22pm -0400, Doug Weller wrote: > What I really want is something like Becky has, just click on Edit and > edit the subject line. Still, I'd appreciate a look at your filter > method. Mine is almost that simple. Hit a hotkey, edit the message and the result shows up in the Inbo

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Doug Weller & everyone else 17-Okt-2004 20:51, you wrote: >>> I'd really like an easy way to do some editing. Alexander>> Isn't xrayapp made exactly for that? > Why should I need to run another program? I understood that you have the need to do that now and your mail client doesn't do th

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hi Bill, Sunday, October 17, 2004, 10:01:07 PM, you wrote: Bill> If you're talking about manual edits, that's fairly Bill> easy with a hotkey triggered filter - although the Bill> result ends up in the Inbox and requires a manual Bill> re-filter of the Inbox when you're done with the edits. Bil

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

On Sat 16-Oct-04 9:54am -0400, Doug Weller wrote: > I've complained about the inability to *easily* edit emails before, > but with the advent of IPSs and Yahoo putting things like 'possible > spam' in the subject lines, as someone who uses TheBat! for archive > purposes I'd really like an easy way

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Doug, Sunday, October 17, 2004, 1:51:28 PM, Doug Weller wrote: Alexander>> Hello Doug Weller & everyone else Alexander>> 16-Okt-2004 16:54, you wrote: >>> I'd really like an easy way to do some editing. Alexander>> Isn't xrayapp made exactly for that? > Why should I need to run another

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hi Alexander, Sunday, October 17, 2004, 10:51:55 AM, you wrote: Alexander> Hello Doug Weller & everyone else Alexander> 16-Okt-2004 16:54, you wrote: >> I'd really like an easy way to do some editing. Alexander> Isn't xrayapp made exactly for that? Why should I need to run another program? T

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hi Avi, Sunday, October 17, 2004, 8:08:01 AM, you wrote: Avi> Well, it could make life easier sometimes. But I can also see this Avi> capability being abused, much to the annoyance of recipients of Avi> TB-generated mail. So I don't support the request. Leaving aside the fact that other email c

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hi Dierk, Sunday, October 17, 2004, 8:09:57 AM, you wrote: Dierk> Hello Peter! Dierk> On Sunday, October 17, 2004 at 3:52:08 AM you wrote: >> In case you want to decide yourself about what's possible/spam or not: >> get another ISP ! Dierk> Or just set the options for presumed spam mail to no

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

On Sunday, October 17, 2004, 18:02, Alexey N. Vinogradov wrote: > TB! Message Filter > beginFilter > endFilter Thanks! -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc ___

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Hello, Marcus. You wrote 18.10.2004 @ 0:58 in using mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional MO> Sounds nice, can you post that filter? TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [FDB23990.01C4908E.33105155.23F1EEAE] Name: Subscribe Filter: {0\0D\0A0`0`0`Subscribe

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

On Sunday, October 17, 2004, 17:48, Alexey N. Vinogradov wrote: > I use a runaround - the sorting rule which saves a letter using > template, which makes a RFC message from original one (and > simultaneously removes all unnecessary data like some headers, ads > in bottoms of public maillists, etc

Re[3]: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello, NetVicious. You wrote 17.10.2004 @ 11:53 in using mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional N> I wish better than edit messages a filter that removes strings from N> the subject. Another filter to remove attachments using the attachment N> file name will be an

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Michael Wilson [MLW], wrote: MLW> Sig too long, 4-6 lines, I count 11. Isn't that a case of pot calling the kettle black? Or are you a truly reformed character? :-) -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 "People love chopping wood. In this activity one immediately sees results." ALBERT EINSTEIN ___

Re[3]: Feature wish - edit subject line

domingo, 17 oct 2004 at 11:52, it seems you wrote: > I've known that most people here do not want this feature, but > other people need it. So if developper don't plan to implement it, > how about open more plugin API to enable us to create such a plugin > which can modify subject line? Those who

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Michael L. Wilson & everyone else 17-Okt-2004 07:01, you wrote: > Looks like your sig is too long. 4-6 lines, I count twelve, and as I was > told, no one cares how much spam you get. Uh Oh Mr Policeman can you shine your light on my signature too, paleze? -- Best regards, Alexander

Re[2]: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Thomas, Sunday, October 17, 2004, 12:02:18 AM, you wrote: TF> I am in favour of being able to edit incoming mails. However, this has TF> been a matter of heated discussions before, most people are against TF> this feature. I've known that most people here do not want this feature, but othe

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Doug Weller & everyone else 16-Okt-2004 16:54, you wrote: > I'd really like an easy way to do some editing. Isn't xrayapp made exactly for that? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 There is virtually not

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Michael! On Sunday, October 17, 2004 at 7:02:19 AM you wrote: > Sig too long, 4-6 lines, I count 8. Second time I see this bickering from you. What kind of kindergarten are we becoming? -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 C

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Peter! On Sunday, October 17, 2004 at 3:52:08 AM you wrote: > In case you want to decide yourself about what's possible/spam or not: > get another ISP ! Or just set the options for presumed spam mail to not change the subject line. With GMX I tried out the "possible spam" this summer - fo

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:43:12 +0200, Gabriel wrote: > Workaround: > -move the mail with malformed subject to your outbox > -doubleclick the mail and edit subject > -save to outbox > -move back to sourcefolder That is a good workaround, Gabriel. > disadvantage: creation time is changed to current

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hi Peter, Sunday, October 17, 2004, 2:52:08 AM, you wrote: Peter> I totally disagree here. Peter> In case you want to decide yourself about what's possible/spam or not: Peter> get another ISP ! Peter> As you'r using your current ISP / free account, you agree to their Peter> standards. Now don'

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

On 17/10/2004 at 12:01:22 AM, Michael L. Wilson, [MLW] wrote: > Looks like your sig is too long. 4-6 lines, I count twelve, and as I > was told, no one cares how much spam you get. How long do you plan to keep this up? Hmmm? You really work hard at being an annoyance. First you made the effort t

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Munango-Keewati, Best, M-K Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "The project of disciplining all the militia of the United States is as futile as it would be injurious, if it were capable of being carried into executi

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Peter, Kind regards, Peter Ouwehand - - - Using A program which insists to be : The Bat! V3.0.2.1 (Home) An anti-spam filter which insists to be : Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.6 An OS which insists to be : Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Sig too long, 4-6 li

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello NetVicious, /\/ / \ / \ / /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 1) Plugins: BayesIt! 0.7.3 and m

Re[2]: Feature wish - edit subject line

domingo, 17 oct 2004 at 03:52, it seems you wrote: > As you'r using your current ISP / free account, you agree to their > standards. Now don't blame this on TB lacking abilities to undo your ISP > / free account addition which you rather would not have. It's not a lack, it's a wish. My ISP ha

Re[2]: Feature wish - edit subject line

> I've complained about the inability to *easily* edit > emails before, I would like to see this enhancement, too. I suggest that something be added to the (usually not visible) header text indicating the original subject line. -- Best, M-K Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 2

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hi Doug, > I've complained about the inability to *easily* edit emails before, > but with the advent of IPSs and Yahoo putting things like 'possible > spam' in the subject lines, as someone who uses TheBat! for archive > purposes I'd really like an easy way to do some editing. Workaround:

Re: Feature wish - edit subject line

Hello Doug, On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:54:34 +0100 GMT (16/10/2004, 21:54 +0700 GMT), Doug Weller wrote: DW> I've complained about the inability to *easily* edit emails before, DW> but with the advent of IPSs and Yahoo putting things like 'possible DW> spam' in the subject lines, as someone who

Feature wish - edit subject line

Hi, I've complained about the inability to *easily* edit emails before, but with the advent of IPSs and Yahoo putting things like 'possible spam' in the subject lines, as someone who uses TheBat! for archive purposes I'd really like an easy way to do some editing. Doug -- Doug Weller