Upgrading from 1.62 to 2.01.3

Please forgive me if this has already been discussed. I did a quick search of past messages and did not find what I was looking for: I am finally ready to give the new version a try. What is the best way to proceed? 1) Backup first 2) Install the new without uninstalling the old? 3) Uninstall t

Re[2]: : "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

Monday, October 27, 2003, 6:28:12 PM, Perry wrote: PN> Hi Joseph, PN> Monday, October 27, 2003, 8:06:17 PM, you wrote: JN>> I've started using one of those password generators on occasion, JN>> because I've about used up all the cute ones I can remember. But JN>> now I need a place to store them

Re: Re : Re : Unable to install French language interface

Saturday, October 25, 2003, Cedric Fontaine wrote: > Bonjour ! > Le 25 octobre 2003 à 02:24:58, vous écriviez : RO>> Hallo Cedric, RO>> Since the software is changing, the strings for the interface are RO>> changing too. As the foreign interface are maintained by volunteers, RO>> it's possible

Re[2]: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

Hi Martin Monday, October 27, 2003, 4:48:28 PM, you wrote: JN>> They are two separate issues. A misused password can wreak boundless JN>> havoc for years after the incident. MW> You use one password for everything? This issue is completely separate from the one of a misused password. You can ha

Re:: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

Hi Joseph, Monday, October 27, 2003, 8:06:17 PM, you wrote: JN> I've started using one of those password generators on occasion, JN> because I've about used up all the cute ones I can remember. But JN> now I need a place to store them, since there's no mnemonic to JN> keep them in mind. I've u

Re[2]: TB! 2

Hello Mark & other TB! list members following this thread, On Monday, October 27, 2003, you explained: MW> 1.63 allows for the use of plugins, What kind of plugins? MW> which you're not using anyway in MW> 1.62. Just the AVG plugin. MW> That's about it, except for some SmartBat / scheduling

Re: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

Hello Joseph, Monday, October 27, 2003, 5:06:17 PM, you wrote: JN> But now I JN> need a place to store them, since there's no mnemonic to keep them in JN> mind. But, of course, the place to store them needs to be encrypted JN> and passworded, so I need a password for that :-) I manage a to

Re[2]: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

On Monday, October 27, 2003, Martin Webster wrote in : MW> Surely you would change your password(s) before handing your PC MW> to a stranger? And if you can't beforehand, afterwards? Martin, Certainly a good point. I've started using one of those password generators o

Re: multiple addresses for one address book entry

Hello Marck, Monday, October 27, 2003, 5:03:30 PM, you wrote: > The address picker allows access to alternate addresses for a given > entry. Click on the right-most icon (hint text is 'address book') in > a message address line to get to the address picker. Right click on > the AB entry in the le

Re: multiple addresses for one address book entry

Hi Marck, On Monday, October 27, 2003, at 4:03:30 PM PST, you wrote: > Click on the right-most icon (hint text is 'address book') in a > message address line to get to the address picker. Right click on > the AB entry in the let hand list box. If it has alternate address, > that's how you can get

Re: multiple addresses for one address book entry

Hello Nick, > What if you would want a choice as to which address is used to send that > particular message... is that possible with TB's AB? By the looks of it, > it's not. :o( See my reply to Roman Katze on -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using

Re: multiple addresses for one address book entry

Hello Roman, > Example a: > For my sister, I have two different mail addresses which I use > according to where she'll read my mails first. I only want to use one > address at a time. OK, as Marck tells you: "Alternate addresses for a single address book entry should be separated on a line of the

Re: multiple addresses for one address book entry

Hi Roman, @28-Oct-2003, 00:23 +0100 (28-Oct 23:23 UK time) Roman Katzer [RK] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: >> Please explain how you intend to use these multiple addresses. What >> you want affects the answer. RK> Example a: For my sister, I have two different mail addresses RK> which

Re: multiple addresses for one address book entry

Hi Nick, @27-Oct-2003, 16:29 -0700 (23:29 UK time) Nick Andriash [NA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: NA> What if you would want a choice as to which address is used to NA> send that particular message... is that possible with TB's AB? NA> By the looks of it, it's not. :o( Actually, it is :o). T

Re: multiple addresses for one address book entry

Hi Nick, On Monday, October 27, 2003, at 3:29:48 PM PST, you wrote: > What if you would want a choice as to which address is used to send > that particular message... is that possible with TB's AB? By the > looks of it, it's not. :o( Oops! I also forgot to mention that I can access the "favorite

Re: multiple addresses for one address book entry

Hi Nick, On Monday, October 27, 2003, at 3:29:48 PM PST, you wrote: > What if you would want a choice as to which address is used to send > that particular message... is that possible with TB's AB? By the > looks of it, it's not. :o( Here's what I do... I create separate address book entries fo

Re: multiple addresses for one address book entry

Hello Marck, Monday, October 27, 2003, 1:14:01 PM, you wrote: > Alternate addresses for a single address book entry should be > separated on a line of their own in the email address box. To make > all messages sent to that individual go to all addresses, see the > "Automatically add secondary add

Re: multiple addresses for one address book entry

Hi Marck, On Monday, October 27, 2003, 21:14:01, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: RK>> how do I enter multiple addresses for one address book entry? > Please explain how you intend to use these multiple addresses. What > you want affects the answer. Example a: For my sister, I have two different mail ad

any IMAP users here ??

Hello all, it was always said that IMAP support in v.1 was really a kind of POP3-solution and not the 'real thing' where your mail stays on the server... so i was very glad that v.2 promised better IMAP support. After some problems i now finally can connect (manually, automatically does not work ?

Re: PGP - Checking Signature

ON Monday, October 27, 2003, 6:25:40 PM, you wrote: P> ..nothing earth shattering since it's quite obvious what the box P> represents. P> It looks like maybe it can be addressed by the XLAT tables. P> I just had noticed an increase in the boxes and finally P> wanted to ask about it. Hi Pixie,

Re: Archiving (was too many mails)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Gerrit, On 27 October 2003, 21:07 +0100 ( 20:07 local time) Gerrit Kruijer [GK] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW>> Did you create the folder in the account tree first? For example, MW>> D:\Mail Archive\Mailing lists\TBUDL corresponds to Archi

Re: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Joseph, On 27 October 2003, 14:45 -0600 ( 20:45 local time) Joseph N. [JN] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW>> Perhaps plain text editors should encrypt data? Ludicrous! And why MW>> encrypt plain text messages to your hard disk when you send

Re: Archiving (was too many mails)

Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="-=-==-==-=--===-==----==---="; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 ---=-==-==-=--===-==----==---= Hello Gerrit, On Monday, October 27, 2003, 6:57:03 PM, you wrote: > Hi tbudl,

Re[2]: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

On Monday, October 27, 2003, Martin Webster wrote in : MW> Perhaps plain text editors should encrypt data? Ludicrous! And why MW> encrypt plain text messages to your hard disk when you send them MW> over the Internet without encryption? E-mail (SMTP/POP) is MW> inherently

RE:"Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

Privet Vasiliy, Monday, October 27, 2003, 8:09:14 PM, you wrote: > I'm not sure that I correct understand what you means but try to ask > on this. > I think that some people has their some reasons to prevents some > information from "strange eyes". And choosing of SB! as email program >

Re: multiple addresses for one address book entry

Hi Roman, @27-Oct-2003, 20:18 +0100 (19:18 UK time) Roman Katzer [RK] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: RK> how do I enter multiple addresses for one address book entry? Please explain how you intend to use these multiple addresses. What you want affects the answer. Alternate addresses for a singl

Re[2]: Archiving (was too many mails)

Hi Martin, On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, at 19:16:02 [GMT +] (which was 20:16 where I live) you wrote: MW> Did you create the folder in the account tree first? For example, MW> D:\Mail Archive\Mailing lists\TBUDL corresponds to Archive\Mailing MW> lists\TBUDL in TB! No, i didn't. I made a new common f

Re: My cable is floopy tonight-now PGP verified?

On Monday, October 27, 2003, 11:02 AM, you wrote: >> what, so what does the check mark mean in the envelope? to make SURE it >> hasn't been tampered with I need to hit the question mark and test it?? TF> No, it just means the message has been signed. In order to check TF> whether it has been tam

Re[2]: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

Hello Jurgen, On 27 October 2003, at 10:25:40 +0100 you wrote: JH> isn't SecureBat! the Paranoia's choice of email program? I'm not sure that I correct understand what you means but try to ask on this. I think that some people has their some reasons to prevents some information from "st

multiple addresses for one address book entry

Hello List, how do I enter multiple addresses for one address book entry? If I separate the entries with semicolons, the address line will be defective after auto-completion , same with commas. Separating mail addresses with spaces concatenates them after auto-completion. Using a CR after each add

Re: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello SyP, On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:47:23 +0100 your time, you said: S> I'd like if someone dissected these claims... Personally I've _never_ installed TB! to the Program Files directory or kept my message base in the same place as the TB! insta

Re: Archiving (was too many mails)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Gerrit, On 27 October 2003, 18:57 +0100 ( 17:57 local time) Gerrit Kruijer [GK] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GK> I want to archive my mail using the suggestion of purge my mail to a GK> folder called Archive. However, when i want to change t

Re[2]: Archiving (was too many mails)

Hi Pixie, On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, at 13:59:23 [GMT -0500] (which was 19:59 where I live) you wrote: P> Try tweaking the archive folder properties some, retrying the P> alternative delete setup, that helped here FWIW. That works. Thank you. -- Best regards, Gerritmail

Re: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

Hi Martin, On Monday, October 27, 2003, at 10:10:17 AM PST, you wrote: > There's some merit in having the mail folder under Documents and > Settings (XP) and I guess this could be a future install option. > Albeit there's nothing stopping you from doing this now. I keep my TB! mail folder in an

Re: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Joseph, On 27 October 2003, 09:22 -0600 ( 15:22 local time) Joseph N. [JN] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Of course, these are not "bugs". They are deliberate design >> decisions. Anyone running in so insecure an environment to make this >>

Archiving (was too many mails)

Hi tbudl, I want to archive my mail using the suggestion of purge my mail to a folder called Archive. However, when i want to change the behaviour of the folder (account properties deletion alternative deletion) i get an error when i browse to my folder i get an error saying i must use a valid nam

Re: %ATTACHFILE with variable filepath

Hello Roelof, > Note that it uses a %- macro immediately after the %ABToFirstName > macro, that's not because that's required by this macro, but otherwise > TB doesn't know where the macro-name stops and continues till the dot. That _was_ the problem. I now tried including the %- and it does work

Re: %ATTACHFILE with variable filepath

Hallo MAU, On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:48:17 +0100GMT (27-10-03, 16:48 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M> However, I can't get to properly concatenate and compose the "filepath" M> for %ATTACHFILE by using the fixed directory, the variable part of the M> file name from %AbToZIP and the "_User.pdf" pa

Re: My cable is floopy tonight-now PGP verified?

Hi Thomas, on Mon, 27 Oct 2003 23:02:44 +0700GMT (27.10.03, 17:02 +0100GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : TF> In order to check whether it has been tampered with, you will have TF> to check the signature every time you open the message. >> right, sure, I'll do that every time I open

Re: Purchased the Bat!

Hello Melissa, On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:30:40 -0800 GMT (27/10/2003, 00:30 +0700 GMT), Melissa Reese wrote: >> I would not recommend this product to my parents or other non-geeks, > On the other hand...I did get my mother - who is impressively > non-computer literate - to use TB!. I did this *beca

Re: My cable is floopy tonight-now PGP verified?

Hello Paul, On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:27:31 -0500 GMT (27/10/2003, 00:27 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: >>> below this window is the preview window that has FROM:, To: and subject. >>> WAY off to the right is an icon, and when I put my cursor over it it >>> says "Verify OpenPGP Signature". It ha

%ATTACHFILE with variable filepath

Hello all, I need help because I'm running around in circles and running out of time. I need to do mail out by e-mail to all entries in an AB Group. I have set up a group template that works fine except for the %ATTACHFILE macro (which is the first time I use it, BTW). To each e-mail I need to at

Re[2]: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

On Sunday, October 26, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in : > Of course, these are not "bugs". They are deliberate design > decisions. Anyone running in so insecure an environment to make this > so called "vulnerability" an issue should consider a more expensive > solution

Re[2]: PGP - Checking Signature

Hello Gerard, On 27 October 2003, at 08:57:01 +0100 you wrote: G> Therefore thank you for signing my key. Not it all. It is pleasantly me to help someone. And thank you too for signing my key! I updated my local keyring by your sign. G> So, just for good measure here is my fingerprint: G> DA

RE:"Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

Hello Vasiliy, Monday, October 27, 2003, 9:50:35 AM, you wrote: > On 26 October 2003, at 20:47:23 +0100 you wrote: S>> I'd like if someone dissected these claims... S>> http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2003-October/012716.html > It is known that The Bat! are not much securely

Re: PGP - Checking Signature

ON Sunday, October 26, 2003, 9:12:04 PM, you wrote: P> Perhaps this better addressed on my end? I'm not sure how character P> translations work but maybe I'm supposed to have TB! show it some P> particular way instead of you sending it a particular way? Hi Pixie, It has all started with me insta

Re: TB! 2

Douglas- Sunday, October 26, 2003, 3:09:25 PM, you wrote: 1.63 allows for the use of plugins, which you're not using anyway in 1.62. That's about it, except for some SmartBat / scheduling features. If missing out on these doesn't bother you, then there's no reason to go hunt down one of the betas

Re: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"

Hello SyP, On 26 October 2003, at 20:47:23 +0100 you wrote: S> I'd like if someone dissected these claims... S> http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2003-October/012716.html It is known that The Bat! are not much securely and its passwords and other confidential information may be

Re[2]: PGP - Checking Signature

Hello Melissa, On 26 October 2003, at 11:28:12 -0800 you wrote: MR> Don't worry Vasiliy, I believe you. Thank you for trusting! ;) MR> I just haven't signed your key yet. :-) OK, no problems. Only as you wish. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Usi

Re: PGP - Checking Signature

ON Sunday, October 26, 2003, 1:50:59 PM, you wrote: VE> However, I want say the following. If you (and all list's members) VE> trust to this letter I may say that I'm a *real* Vasiliy Efimenko from VE> Kyiv (Ukraine) who typing this words! VE> My key fingerprint are: VE> 03AE 5805

Re: Dupes - From Somewhere

> I have been having some dupes show up also for some reason, although > not something that has just surfaced. Good to know I'm not the only one, although obviously none too good that this is happening at all, I guess > The messages have had the same MID, are current (wrote/dated) and > 'kill dup