Hello Edgar,
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 23:07:38 +0100 GMT (24/12/2003, 05:07 +0700 GMT),
Edgar wrote:
>> So, can someone explain why it is that a company pays money to have a
>> secretary learn correspondence, but expects that same secretary to be
>> able to properly use e-mail without any instruction
Hello rich,
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:04:37 -0500 GMT (25/12/2003, 04:04 +0700 GMT),
rich gregory wrote:
> As a matter of fact I would support legislation that would charge a
> fee (a small fee like 1/2 penny each) for every email sent. Maybe
> that would take the economic incentive out of spamming.
Hi Rich,
@24-Dec-2003, 16:04 -0500 (24-Dec 21:04 UK time) rich gregory [RG]
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:
... seasonal harmony and agreements ...
RG> BTW, what's ?
Very Big Grin ;-).
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SB! v2.03 Beta/22 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Servic
MDP> What ... you never discovered the address picker Just click the
MDP> little man icon at the end of the BCC line. Use the picker to throw out
MDP> addresses from a line that long. It's so easy that way! Alternatively, I
MDP> could copy the line to a real editor to work on that much text. Ed
Hi Rich,
@23-Dec-2003, 15:21 -0500 (23-Dec 20:21 UK time) rich gregory [RG]
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:
MDP>> This is such a tiny flaw compared to
RG> Tiny? I'll give you "small"! There are times when I have a heck
RG> of a lot of email addresses on the BCC: line that need to be
RG>
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Hello rich,
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:49:11 -0500 your time, you said:
rg> There is no need to be such a dick.
Having a tantrum are we? lol
Merry Christmas
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Hello rich,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, at 6:56:55 PM, you wrote
re: 2.0 Underwhelmed...:
rg> I was defending myself and now _I'm_ the abusive one. OK, you have a point,
rg> but re-read the message I was replying to and tell me who there was the
rg> abuser and abused, if you car
WH> No matter how frustrated you are... I don't think that it's necessary for
WH> you to get abusive to make your point.
Sorry to disappoint, but I was not frustrated in the least!
As the moderator expressed, my wording could be considered be some to be
profanity, not my intention. I was seriousl
Hello Tony,
Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 9:09:15 PM, you wrote:
TM> To use an analogy, the owner's manual for my car doesn't
TM> discuss how to drive, or what gasoline is, but it does tell me
TM> where the gasoline tank is filled on _my car_, and it does tell me
TM> about ways in which my car mig
Hello Maurice,
Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 8:35:46 PM, you wrote:
MS> I will probably never cease to be amazed by the apparently
MS> omnipresent expectation that all software must be either self
MS> evident or otherwise self explanatory.
It's primarily an internal IT industry expectation - take
Hello Maurice,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 9:35:46 PM, you wrote:
> Business e-mail is, in my opinion, not a trivial tool. Just like
> business correspondence is not a trivial tool in doing business. I've
> heard of secretaries who are required to follow a course in official
> Dutch correspond
Hello rich,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, at 3:49:11 PM, you wrote
re: 2.0 Underwhelmed...:
No matter how frustrated you are, I would appreciate it if you did not
use our Lord's name in vain on this list. I also don't think that it's
necessary for you to get abusive to
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 09:51 Edgar wrote:
> I will probably never cease to be amazed by the apparently omnipresent
> expectation that all software must be either self evident or otherwise
> self explanatory.
Actually, I disagree...at least about what I think the expectations of most user
S> There is nothing 'unprofessional' about the way The Bat! editor functions,
S> There are distinctive ways of doing things in TB! but those ways work well
S> once you have adapted to them.
In the header, it does *NOT* work! Just try it, "friend".
S> The benefit of using an excellent client like
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 09:51 Edgar wrote:
> Although the help here in this group is great, It should not need
> to exist. There should be a good help system. Companies do not
> have the time to read loads of mailing list to find out how the
> e-mail client works.
I will probably never c
MDP> Hi Rich,
Hi! And Best Wishes to all!!
j>>> ... the Ctrl-shift-left arrow keeps everything highlighted and
j>>> puts the cursor at the beginning of the field.
RG>> This is one of my BIGGEST complaints with TB.
MDP> This is such a tiny flaw compared to
Tiny? I'll give you "small"! There are
Hello jwayne,
Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 11:48:30 AM, you wrote:
> No, it _doesn't_ work as it should. There are basically two
> problems with the implementation as is:
> 1) Cursor position: Ctrl-Shift-Left should move the cursor word by word
> to the left, not move immediately to the be
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 10:48:30 AM, jwayne wrote in the
message "2.0 Underwhelmed..."
<mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 1) Cursor position: Ctrl-Shift-Left should move the cursor word by
> word to the left, not move immediately to the beginning of the text
While selectin
Hello Mark,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 5:18:16 PM, you wrote:
> Of course, if a good help system were a prerequisite then nobody would
> buy any MS products. The built-in help system is certainly one of TB's
> weaker points, but the day TB comes out with one of those damn talking
> paper clip
Edgar-
Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 12:51:04 AM, you wrote:
E> Although the help here in this group is great, It should not need
E> to exist. There should be a good help system. Companies do not
Of course, if a good help system were a prerequisite then nobody would
buy any MS products. The built-
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 8:49:51 AM, Daniel Rail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DR> Hello jwayne,
DR> Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 8:20:44 AM, you wrote:
j>>> ... the Ctrl-shift-left arrow keeps everything highlighted and
j>>> puts the cursor at the beginning of the field.
DR>>> And, I
Hello Simon,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 1:30:21 PM, you wrote:
> shortcomings...not that that justifies it of course. However, I don't
> believe for a moment that a better help file system would make this
> list redundant. Not a chance of it! This list is invaluable, and will
> continue
Hello Allie,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 1:46:55 PM, you wrote:
> Finally, the worse thing one can do, is to stubbornly insist that the
> new application do *everything* the same way the old application did.
That's true, but one could insist on that the new application
does *everything* it is
Hello jwayne,
Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 8:20:44 AM, you wrote:
j>> ... the Ctrl-shift-left arrow keeps everything highlighted and
j>> puts the cursor at the beginning of the field.
DR>> And, I observe that it is at the end. Am I missing something?
> Yep. Try it again, comparing how it
Simon, [S] wrote:
S> As I said, TB! has faults but people on this list usually attempt to
S> work around them until the faults have been rectified.
This is it. :) With software, you almost always have to make concessions
in the form of work-arounds or just doing without a particular feature.
TB!
Jwayne, [J] wrote:
J> Ironic that they'd implement this important feature only in the HTML
J> editor when TB users are the most "anti-HTML for email" crowd around!
I think that MicroEd, including both alternative editors were not
written from scratch. They're grounded on established code for the
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Hello Edgar,
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:51:04 +0100 your time, you said:
E> Although the help here in this group is great, It should not need
E> to exist.
Hmmm, well I think that is a romantic notion myself. So these types of
support systems [this
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 6:12:08 AM, Daniel Rail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DR> Hello Jurgen,
DR> Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 3:28:06 AM, you wrote:
j> ... the Ctrl-shift-left arrow keeps everything highlighted and
j> puts the cursor at the beginning of the field.
DR> And, I obser
Hello Edgar,
Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 4:51:04 AM, you wrote:
> Although the help here in this group is great, It should not need
> to exist. There should be a good help system. Companies do not
> have the time to read loads of mailing list to find out how the
> e-mail client works.
Unfortunate
Hello Jurgen,
Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 3:28:06 AM, you wrote:
j ... the Ctrl-shift-left arrow keeps everything highlighted and
j puts the cursor at the beginning of the field.
And, I observe that it is at the end. Am I missing something?
> well, I would also say it's unprofessional,
Hello Simon,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 1:41:49 AM, you wrote:
> The benefit of using an excellent client like TB! is that it ISN'T
> always completely 'mainstream', and so it does require users to learn
> how to use some of it's many useful features. And TB! is rich in
> features,
Hello Marck,
Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 1:14:24 AM, you wrote:
> @22-Dec-2003, 18:29 -0500 (22-Dec 23:29 UK time) rich gregory [RG]
> in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to jwayne:
j>>> ... the Ctrl-shift-left arrow keeps everything highlighted and
j>>> puts the cursor at the beginning of the field.
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 00:14:24 +, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:
[Unprofessionalisms in TB!]
> To me, it sounds almost like fussing about the bad design of
> the indicator stalk in a Ferrari.
Your insertion of the word "almost" made me sigh with relief. ;-)
(I wouldn't dream of buying a Ferrari mo
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Hello rich,
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:29:19 -0500 your time, you said:
rg> Again, both are quite unprofessional.
What a load of nonsensical claptrap! I've read some comments on this
list over the years but my word, these last few remarks really ta
Hi Rich,
@22-Dec-2003, 18:29 -0500 (22-Dec 23:29 UK time) rich gregory [RG]
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to jwayne:
j>> ... the Ctrl-shift-left arrow keeps everything highlighted and
j>> puts the cursor at the beginning of the field.
RG> This is one of my BIGGEST complaints with TB. Though I us
j> However, this does not work properly in any The Bat message header field
j> (To, Subject, etc); the Ctrl-shift-left arrow keeps everything highlighted
j> and puts the cursor at the beginning of the field.
This is one of my BIGGEST complaints with TB. Though I use TB myself (and put
up with it's
Marek Mikus wrote:
CC'ing to TBBETA in case the developers are too busy to read TBUDL.
>> 1) It's a real pain in the butt to search over all accounts because
>> you have to scroll down, checking each account, rather than
>> clicking a single checkbox.
MM> You can use right mouse button and selec
Hello all,
Monday, December 22, 2003, jwayne wrote:
> Just upgraded to 2.0 and am definitely underwhelmed.
> First, I was quite surprised that bugs in the 1.x version reported over a year
> ago haven't been addressed.
> Here are two of 'em:
> 1) Paste in any header field (e.g., To: or Subject:)
Just upgraded to 2.0 and am definitely underwhelmed.
First, I was quite surprised that bugs in the 1.x version reported over a year
ago haven't been addressed.
Here are two of 'em:
1) Paste in any header field (e.g., To: or Subject:). Ctrl-V or right-click
paste works OK, Edit|Paste pastes the t
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