Hi there!
On 3 Dec 99, at 0:00, Paula Ford wrote
about "Re: Activating only certain filters":
> AVK>> :-)))
>
> > What does :-))) represent?
>
> The :-) represents Alexander smiling and the )) represent his double
> (triple?) chins.
:-o! What a out
Hi there!
On 2 Dec 99, at 21:21, Douglas Hinds wrote
about "Re[2]: Activating only certain filt":
> >> AVK> In TB this part cannot be implemented, therefore one would need
> >> AVK> to implement this part as "Read" type filters. But then I would
> >> AVK> *have* to open *each* of the deliver
On Thursday, December 02, 1999, Douglas Hinds wrote:
AVK>> :-)))
> What does :-))) represent?
The :-) represents Alexander smiling and the )) represent his double
(triple?) chins.
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Hello Alexander & all fellow TBUDL members,
Wednesday, December 01, 1999 and before, Alexander wrote:
...
>> AVK> In TB this part cannot be implemented, therefore one would need
>> AVK> to implement this part as "Read" type filters. But then I would
>> AVK> *have* to open *each* of the delivery
Hello Paula,
Thursday, Paula wrote:
PF> In TB, a user could filter incoming messages to all other accounts to
PF> one InBox, if they wished, by creating just one filter on each account,
PF> then filter them from there into one set of folders.
PF> But, how does Pegasus deal with identifying the
Hi there!
On 2 Dec 99, at 1:54, Paula Ford wrote
about "Re: Activating only certain filters":
> In TB, a user could filter incoming messages to all other accounts to
> one InBox, if they wished, by creating just one filter on each account,
> then filter them from th
On Wednesday, December 01, 1999, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:
> In Pegasus, all the new mail arrives to *one* Inbox (Pegasus
> calls it "New mail folder"), provided that you install the program
> as single-user and use identities under this single user (this is
> how I run Pegasus).
In TB, a u
Morning Douglas Hinds,
> If an account column was available in the "setup columns" menu,
There is no account column, but the folder column indicates the
account as well...
> TB users would have a choice of using one structure and / or the
> other.
Filtering an accounts messages to another w
Hello Paula & all fellow TBUDL members,
Wednesday, December 01, 1999, 4:11:20 AM, Paula wrote:
PF> Despite Douglas' problems with Calypso, it has a lovely filtering
PF> system. All of what you mentioned is accomplished in a simpler and more
PF> elegant manner...
Just a short clarification:
Th
Hello Ali & all fellow TBUDL members,
Wednesday, December 01, 1999, 12:53:11 AM, Ali wrote in response to my saying:
>> Since my past email client had an accounts column, it was easy for
>> me to keep house manually, depending on source, content,
>> importance, follow up required etc. and the d
Hi there!
On 30 Nov 99, at 16:09, Douglas Hinds wrote
about "Re[2]: Activating only certain filt":
> Monday, November 29, 1999, 9:05:57 AM, Alexander wrote in response to
> my saying:
>
> AVK> 1. Managing the Inbox. What essentially is done to my Inbox in
> AVK> Pegasus? On every _opening_,
Paula Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I don't see the advantage either. I think the present implementation
>> is an attempt to make things clearer but they have, to me, done the
>> opposite. :( The filter manager should, IMHO, be just like the address
>> book in design. ...
> Despite Dougl
On Wednesday, December 01, 1999, Ali Martin wrote:
> I don't see the advantage either. I think the present implementation
> is an attempt to make things clearer but they have, to me, done the
> opposite. :( The filter manager should, IMHO, be just like the address
> book in design. ...
Despite D
Douglas Hinds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
AM>> It has nothing to do with a re-filter operation. A re-filter
AM>> operation reruns the filter rules that are usually run on incoming
AM>> mail automatically, as well the rules that are reserved to be run
AM>> manually.
> Depending on the rule set
Hello Jason,
in response to your saying:
JE> the one thing I haven't been able to get to filter at all is this
JE> mailing list!
My rule is as follows: The 2 strings both filter on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The two locations are sender and kludges and of course are yes. It's
active only.
It works fi
Hello Ali & all fellow TBUDL members,
Sunday, November 28, 1999, 5:14:09 PM, Ali wrote in response to my saying:
>> after selecting for Read Mail (for instance), "Manual filters
>> only" can be selected or not, whereas when creating a filter itself,
>> it can be either active, manual only, bot
Hello Ali & all fellow TBUDL members,
Tuesday, November 30, 1999, 3:20:22 AM, Ali wrote in response to my saying:
>> What's a Regular Expression, then?
AM> Let me quote a little excerpt from one of my applications since I find
AM> it difficult to define a regular expression in one sentence:
A
Hello Paula & all fellow TBUDL members,
Monday, November 29, 1999, 12:09:33 AM, Paula wrote in response to my saying:
>> It needs a Ticker Manager that let's you check & set the ticker
>> setting for each folder without having to go to the properties
>> settings of each, and greater selectivi
Hi Douglas,
Tuesday, November 30, 1999, 2:09:45 PM, Douglas Hinds wrote:
> Hello Alexander & all fellow TBUDL members,
> It's probably better to do it manually. (And you *don't* have to
> select "manual only" when re-filtering, that choice is only there for
> display purposes - just to say hell
Hello Alexander & all fellow TBUDL members,
Monday, November 29, 1999, 9:05:57 AM, Alexander wrote in response to
my saying:
>> Alexander wrote what follows below (reformatted) and I would like
>> him to explain why the filtering he describes in relation to the
>> messages he receives (all of w
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Hello Jason,
JE> OK. As far as I can tell, this is the only list I'm trying to filter
JE> that doesn't have an "easy" filter criteria (all the others
Hello Kevin,
OK. I've created a new filter and we'll see if filtering it this way
works (crossing fingers).
Thanks for all the help everyone - it's really great to have such a
helpful mailing list to work with on a product like TB :-D
Jason
> Hi Jason,
>> I hadn't noticed that before. I'll tr
Hello Ali,
> It sounds silly, but make sure that you are creating the filter for
> the correct account. I've personally made a mistake like this. :)
Yes, it's created for the correct account (as near as I can tell -
this is the first e-mail client I've ever used that separated accounts
in this m
Hi Jason,
> I hadn't noticed that before. I'll try adding that to the filter and
> seeing if it works.
Remember not to ADD it to the filter as then the filter will check for all
of the strings you have in there. That should be the only string that is
being checked.
Thanks,
Kevin Boylan
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Hello Kevin,
I hadn't noticed that before. I'll try adding that to the filter and
seeing if it works.
Jason
> Hi,
>> OK. As far as I can tell, this is the only list I'm trying to filter that
>> doesn't have an "easy" filter criteria (all the others I can filter based
>> on either the from, to,
Kevin Boylan wrote:
> I'm a little confused from what everyone is saying here. Maybe I missed
> part of the discussion, but for me, just filtering on TBUDL alone in the
> Recipient field works just fine. All messages come in with someones name
> in the recipient field but the email address t
Jason Ellis wrote:
> It all remains in the inbox, yes.
OK.
> I placed it first, as you suggested.
OK. All this does is to ensure that this filter is applied first so
that if you wish to filter private mail from TBUDL subscribers, you
don't accidentally filter mail from them that's sent to T
Hi,
> OK. As far as I can tell, this is the only list I'm trying to filter that
> doesn't have an "easy" filter criteria (all the others I can filter based
> on either the from, to, or something standardized in the subject line.)
> This one doesn't seem to have any of that - as you pointed out, t
Hello Ali,
> What happens to the TBUDL mail then? Do they all remain in the Inbox?
It all remains in the inbox, yes.
> Where in the list of filters have you placed the rule for filtering
> TBUDL mail?
I placed it first, as you suggested.
> Do you use more than one e-mail accounts?
Yes - I
Jason Ellis wrote:
> OK, so I tried the filtering suggestion to get this list filtered and,
> as with the other filtering attempts for this mailing list, it didn't
> work - still won't filter.
> Anyone else have any suggestions? I've been able to filter everything
> else except this one maili
JE>>> One question - just for my own sanity - what exactly are "Kludges"? It
JE>>> sounds like something a plumber might have to deal with ;-)
> ROTFL!!! That's a good one.
Thanks.
OK, so I tried the filtering suggestion to get this list filtered and,
as with the other filtering attempts for th
Oleg Zalyalov wrote:
> Tuesday, November 30, 1999, Jason Ellis wrote to Ali Martin about
> Activating only certain filters:
JE>> One question - just for my own sanity - what exactly are "Kludges"? It
JE>> sounds like something a plumber might have to deal with ;-)
Hello, the Bat! list recipients,
Tuesday, November 30, 1999, Jason Ellis wrote to Ali Martin about
Activating only certain filters:
JE> One question - just for my own sanity - what exactly are "Kludges"? It
JE> sounds like something a plumber might have to deal with ;-)
It&#x
Hello Ali,
Thanks! I'll try that!
One question - just for my own sanity - what exactly are "Kludges"? It
sounds like something a plumber might have to deal with ;-)
Thanks,
Jason
>Jason Ellis wrote:
>> I too am having problems getting my filters in TB to work properly.
>> I've managed to
Jason Ellis wrote:
> I too am having problems getting my filters in TB to work properly.
> I've managed to get most things filtering OK, but, amazingly, the one
> thing I haven't been able to get to filter at all is this mailing
> list!
> And yes, when I received the signup e-mail it gave ins
Hello List,
I too am having problems getting my filters in TB to work properly.
I've managed to get most things filtering OK, but, amazingly, the one
thing I haven't been able to get to filter at all is this mailing
list!
And yes, when I received the signup e-mail it gave instructions for
settin
Douglas Hinds wrote:
> They are there to use if and when they're changed to active status.
> But none if this is explained anywhere. You yourself are just
> discovering these details.
As with many of the other features of The Bat! :)
> Right, there's a logic to it. The point is that it's a t
On Monday, November 29, 1999, Douglas Hinds wrote:
> Is that "my" confusion or is that simply an option not explained in
> the TB help file? ...
OK, your confusion stems from filtering being inadequately explained in
the Help file. You won't get an argument from me about the Help file,
but it is
(long but substantial)
Hello Paula & all fellow TBUDL members,
>> Finally, I make the rule active *and* manual only and boom. It
>> works. For all practical purposes then, *only active filters
>> filter*, and they can be manual or not manual.
PF> Your confusion stems from being able to check "
Hi there!
On 29 Nov 99, at 13:32, Douglas Hinds wrote
about "Re[2]: Activating only certain filt":
> Monday, November 29, 1999, 12:13:40 AM, Paula wrote in response to my
> saying in relation to Alex's claim that the filtering system he's
> using in Pegasus is not possible using TB:
>
> PF>
Hello Paula & all fellow TBUDL members,
Monday, November 29, 1999, 12:13:40 AM, Paula wrote in response to my
saying in relation to Alex's claim that the filtering system he's
using in Pegasus is not possible using TB:
>> I would also like anyone who believes that this *can* be done using TB
>>
Hi there!
On 28 Nov 99, at 18:26, Douglas Hinds wrote
about "Re[2]: Activating only certain filt":
> Sunday, November 28, 1999, 3:59:02 PM, Alexander wrote what follows
> below (reformatted) and I would like him to explain why the filtering
> he describes in relation to the messages he recei
On Sunday, November 28, 1999, Douglas Hinds wrote:
> I would also like anyone who believes that this *can* be done using TB
> (as Paula suggested), to elucidate on that as well:
> This is exactly what I'd appreciate hearing in greater depth, as well
> as any dissenting opinions.
Dissenting op
On Sunday, November 28, 1999, Douglas Hinds wrote:
> True, but that doesn't address the question of whether turning off the
> ticker to the main accounts inbox means that no ticker will be
> available for any of that account's subdirectories.
I tried this out and unread messages in subfolders ap
Paula Ford wrote:
> The Incoming Mail filters are confusingly misnamed since they operate
> manually on all messages in the InBox when invoked manually, not just
> "incoming message flows" as the Help describes them.
Agreed.
> Hmmm??? If you click on a folder other than the InBox, then re-f
On Sunday, November 28, 1999, Ali Martin wrote:
> Well see if you get my logic:
> a) To get a filter to work *at all*, you have to have the 'active'
>switch checked.
> b) An incoming filter with only the 'active' switch checked, is a
The Incoming Mail filters are confusingly misnamed since
Douglas Hinds wrote:
> Sunday, November 28, 1999, 3:59:02 PM, Alexander wrote what follows
> below (reformatted) and I would like him to explain why the filtering
> he describes in relation to the messages he receives (all of which is
> close to what I have in mind, particularly the filtering
Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:
>> Not to defend TB's filtering approach, but I don't see anything in your
>> description that you can't do with TB. The difference would be that TB
>> moves read messages when read rather than on 'closing' the folder, and
>> if you wanted to keep the messages in th
On Sunday, November 28, 1999, Douglas Hinds wrote:
> Finally (I am pissed off at this point), I make the rule active *and*
> manual only and boom. It works. For all practical purposes then, *only
> active filters filter*, and they can be manual or not manual.
Your confusion stems from being ab
Hello tracer & all fellow TBUDL members,
Saturday, November 27, 1999, 6:40:43 PM, tracer wrote in response to my saying:
Douglas>> I infer from this that by turning off the ticker to the main
Douglas>> accounts inbox, no ticker will be available for any of that
Douglas>> account's subdirectorie
Hello Alexander & all fellow TBUDL members,
Sunday, November 28, 1999, 3:59:02 PM, Alexander wrote what follows
below (reformatted) and I would like him to explain why the filtering
he describes in relation to the messages he receives (all of which is
close to what I have in mind, particularly t
Douglas Hinds wrote:
> A rule can be either:
> 1).- "active";
> 2).- "manual only";
> 3).- "active" AND "manual only"; or
> 4).- NEITHER "active" nor "manual only"
Yes.
> An "active" rule that is *not* "manual only", takes effect
> automatically; and
Yes, it works automatically on incoming
On Sunday, November 28, 1999, Ali Martin wrote:
> My interpretation is that the Incoming filter set is a list of
> filters that will work on all message types and on any folder, it
> would appear.
You are correct and I apologize for the misinformation. At one point,
back when I first got TB, the
(Long, but important for adequate TB functionality, if possible).
Hello Paula and all you fellow TBteers,
Friday, November 26, 1999, 1:48:01 PM, Paula wrote in response to my saying:
I see a need for activating a given filter without having to
activate all filters for a given folder
Hi there!
On 27 Nov 99, at 15:04, Paula Ford wrote
about "Re: Activating only certain filters":
> > This filtering structure can be _partially_ mimicked with TB, but not
> > in its entirety:-( OTOH, it proved to be very useful for me, hence
> > I'll probably
Ali Martin wrote:
> If I run the incoming filter set on my inbox for unread messages,
> nothing happens. Now, if I run my Incoming filter set on my inbox
> selecting read and replied messages in the 'Refilter Mail ...' popup
> dialog box, all of the senders messages, which are either read or
>
Januk Aggarwal wrote:
> Every time, TB! asks us which filter sets we want to filter*, and we
> choose all of them except manual filters only. TB! then filters all
> messages (read or unread) properly.
> So what is my confusion, you might ask. Well, why are people saying
> that incoming filter
Hi,
I'm a bit confused about this whole thread here. I'll admit that I'm
pretty new to The Bat!, but I've been trying to set up my parents on
e-mail. My Dad is slowly trying to build up his functionality, so
we've been exploring the filters. Every time we add a new filter, we
add either Incoming
On Saturday, November 27, 1999, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:
> This filtering structure can be _partially_ mimicked with TB, but not
> in its entirety:-( OTOH, it proved to be very useful for me, hence
> I'll probably think *very* hard before leaving it for something
> else...
Not to defend TB's
Sunday, November 28, 1999
Hello Douglas,
Friday, Friday, November 26, 1999, you wrote:
(snip)
Douglas> I infer from this that by turning off the ticker to the main accounts
Douglas> inbox, no ticker will be available for any of that account's
Douglas> subdirectories. Are you sure this is true?
Hi there!
On 26 Nov 99, at 14:48, Paula Ford wrote
about "Re: Activating only certain filters":
> The focus of TB's filtering is ostensibly on the status of
> the message, not the folder. So, we have rules that apply to
> Incoming Mail, Outgoing Mail, Read Messages
On Friday, November 26, 1999, Douglas Hinds wrote:
>>> In any case, I see a need for activating a given filter without
>>> having to activate all filters for a given folder at once, as seems
>>> to be the case at present.
AM>> I don't see how you could avoid doing this manually, i.e., going
AM>>
Hello Ali & all fellow TBUDL members,
Thursday, November 25, 1999, 7:54:22 PM, Ali wrote in response to my
saying more or less:
>> In any case, I see a need for activating a given filter without
>> having to activate all filters for a given folder at once, as seems
>> to be the case at present.
(long)
Hello joshuaalllenrday & all fellow TBUDL members,
Thursday, November 25, 1999, 10:33:40 PM, Joshua wrote in response my
saying :
>> 2).- I need to see it all mail when it comes in, and not have to
>> look around for it. ... mail from all accounts should probably be
>> actively fi
on Thursday, November 25, 1999
Douglas Hinds wrote...
> 2).- However, I need to see it all when it comes in, and not have to
> look around for it. Since there are multiple accounts, mail from all
> of them should probably be actively filtered to ONE inbox (not yet
> done), and then either activel
Douglas Hinds wrote:
> In any case, I see a need for activating a given filter without having
> to activate a number of them all at once, as seem to be the case at
> present. I am assuming that there is no way to do that - but that is
> the reason for this post: To make sure that there isn't a
This may be a little wordier than most posts, but I will try to state
the issue and get to the point: What I want to do with TB! and why I
want do it, and I would appreciate other TB! users comments regarding
filtering and the way I use (and want to use) e-mail. First of all I'd
like to compare t
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