Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

2004-08-27 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo St, On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 02:25:04 +0200GMT (27-8-2004, 2:25 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AFAIK you're running TB permanently (and at very short poll intervalls). SMN True - although 30 seconds isn't what I would consider to be _very_ short SMN intervals. Or? But nevertheless it

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

2004-08-27 Thread St - Musaic.Net
Alexander S. Kunz: AFAIK you're running TB permanently (and at very short poll intervalls). St: True - although 30 seconds isn't what I would consider to be _very_ short intervals. Or? Roelof Otten: But nevertheless it is extremely short. When a server has multiple users with such a

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

2004-08-26 Thread St - Musaic.Net
that (or at least implied it strongly)! :) It was crucial in the discussion and is a major reason for topic of [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC. BTW - thru the batch file method I hav been able to produce a stable fix for the problem I outlined in [St's TB Annoyances] Periodical Checking

[St's TB Annoyances] Re: Some tasks are now active

2004-08-18 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello TBUDL, on Sat, 14. Aug 2004 at 18:05:37 +0200 Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Repeat: How do you send TB that /EXIT command (or whatever IPC command) when TB fails to read the file that contains the request? ** You. Do. Not. Need. The. IPC. File. ** ** You. Do. Not. Need. The. IPC. File.

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Re: Some tasks are now active

2004-08-18 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello dAniel hAhler, 18-Aug-2004 19:13, you wrote: TB first wants to delete the THEBAT.IPC file (where it writes the command line /EXIT into) and than exits. Wait a minute... TB itself writes the .IPC file when you access it via the commandline?!? Ouch, I didn't know that. -- Best regards,

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Periodical Checking (of mail)

2004-08-14 Thread St - Musaic.Net
St: Anyone having problems with Periodical (Mail) Checking that fails to exactly so? Thomas Fernandez: No, I haven't. But I have noticed that I need to invoke check mail for all in order to ensure that periodical mail check will occur. I do, too. My problem is that I usually will have

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-08-14 Thread St - Musaic.Net
St: TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows+M and see for yourself. Allie Martin: TB! disappears/minimizes here. Andre Wichartz: It depends on whether you have TB! set to show in the task bar. I can confirm this. Options - Preferences - General, _check_ Do not

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Connection Centre pop-up in Taskbar

2004-08-14 Thread St - Musaic.Net
Alexander S. Kunz: Options/Preferences/General - Display Connection centre - HIDE Thanks - there is always something to learn! -- St Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

[St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

2004-08-14 Thread St - Musaic . Net
From the TB help file: For those who are familiar with programming, here's a handy hint: The Bat! checks a file called TheBat.IPC which is located in the same directory in which The Bat! executable (TheBat.exe) file is located. Within this text file, each line represents one command

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

2004-08-14 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello St - Musaic.Net, 14-Aug-2004 16:17, you wrote: exactly how do you send TB that IPC command when TB fails to read the file that contains the request!?! You don't send an IPC command, you use the command line which passes its commands to the running TB instance. That is in the helpfile,

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

2004-08-14 Thread St - Musaic.Net
St: ...exactly how do you send TB that IPC command when TB fails to read the file that contains the request!?! Alexander S. Kunz: You don't send an IPC command, you use the command line which passes its commands to the running TB instance. That is in the helpfile, too. Don't be too

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

2004-08-14 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello St - Musaic.Net, 14-Aug-2004 17:35, you wrote: My point is this: For no reason, TB may at any time simply stop looking for thebat.IPC - and thus TB won't know of the _future_ commands you send it (by the way of the command line). Have you investigated why this is happening?

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Some tasks are now active

2004-08-14 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello St - Musaic.Net, 14-Aug-2004 16:04, you wrote: Now, exactly how do you send TB that /EXIT command when TB fails to read the file that contains the request!?! GREAT! You can issue an thebat.exe /EXIT command and it will quit the running instance of TB. You don't need the .IPC file

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

2004-08-14 Thread St - Musaic.Net
Alexander S. Kunz: Have you investigated why this is happening? SysInternals FileMon may be of help. Maybe your on-access virus scanner blocks the file, something like that? Funny that you ask - I am currently running FileMon here (with an exclusive logging of thebat.IPC-accesses.

Re[2]: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-07-28 Thread Mike email (The Bat!)
Hi Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 2:41:18 PM, Allie Martin wrote: AM St - Musaic.Net, [SMN] wrote: TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows- button + M and see for yourself. AM TB! disappears/minimizes here. Here, TB! behaves as I would expect if it is the only window open.

[St's TB Annoyances] Connection Centre pop-up in Taskbar

2004-07-27 Thread St - Musaic.Net
“Connection Centre” should minimize to System Tray, not Windows Taskbar!”. I have TB check for and download from three accounts at a 30 seconds interval and the (non-timely) pop-in appearance of the “Connection Centre” in the Windows Taskbar is pretty disturbing! For example, say that I

[St's TB Annoyances] FETCH - Server reports error

2004-07-27 Thread St - Musaic.Net
Scenario: I use TB to download mail 24 hours a day – mostly unattended downloading and processing mail. I have TB redirect mail to some friends (my system checks for spam and/or virus and redirects a message if none is present). Every now and then I reboot the PC (remotely). From time

[St's TB Annoyances] View Message Source

2004-07-27 Thread St - Musaic . Net
“View Message Source” should not (default) to show the code of the attachments. Big messages take a long time to open on a modest PC. In message source attachments could be represented by an icon that one could click on to see the code. -- St

[St's TB Annoyances] Periodical Checking (of mail)

2004-07-27 Thread St - Musaic.Net
Anyone having problems with Periodical (Mail) Checking that fails to do exactly so? I have four accounts that checks mail. Accounts 1, 2, and 4 is set to check mail every 30 seconds, the third is set to check every 30 minutes. But at the time of writing (12:49PM CET) TB hasn't checked

[St's TB Annoyances] Message Dispatcher

2004-07-27 Thread St - Musaic . Net
Double-clicking a message in Message Dispatcher does NOT open the message. And when you do open it by hitting Enter, and then select “Message” - “Move to Folder”, the message is copied to the folder (and not deleted from server). -- St

[St's TB Annoyances] Command line parameter: /PARK

2004-07-27 Thread St - Musaic . Net
Command line parameter PARK doesn’t work with importing of messages. -- St Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

[St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-07-27 Thread St - Musaic . Net
TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows- button + M and see for yourself. -- St Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

[St's TB Annoyances] Some tasks are now active

2004-07-27 Thread St - Musaic.Net
You want to exit and restart TB or reboot the PC. This is pretty easy to do while in front of the PC - but if TB is downloading mail unattended it is a totally different story! [ Message contains pictures - read it here: http://www.musaic.net/tb/warning.htm ] -- St

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-07-27 Thread Allie Martin
St - Musaic.Net, [SMN] wrote: TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows- button + M and see for yourself. TB! disappears/minimizes here. -- -=[ Allie Martin ]=- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com The Bat! v2.12.04 on WinXP Pro (SP1)

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-07-27 Thread AceMan
St - Musaic.Net said: TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows- button + M and see for yourself. Not confirmed. Works fine here. -- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-07-27 Thread M i c C u l l e n
On Tuesday, July 27, 2004 @ 9:32:28 PM, St - Musaic.Net wrote: [snips] St TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows- St button + M and see for yourself. What do you mean: does not react? For me, doing that minimises everything (including TB) and I see the desktop. --

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-07-27 Thread Dan Grunberg
Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:32:28 +0200 (9:32 AM EDT here) St - Musaic.Net wrote: TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows- button + M and see for yourself. TheBat! does react to Windows+M on my system. TheBat! also reacts to the Show Desktop button on the Taskbar. I use: The

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-07-27 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Allie, On 27 Jul 2004 at 08:41:18 -0500 GMT [15:41 CEST] you wrote: AM St - Musaic.Net, [SMN] wrote: TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows- button + M and see for yourself. AM TB! disappears/minimizes here. It depends on wether you have tb! set to show in the

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-07-27 Thread Mike Noble
Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 6:32:28 AM, you wrote: SMN TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows- SMN button + M and see for yourself. You might find that the Show Desktop icon is not visible but rather is in the pop up list at the right of the quick start icons. I can get

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-07-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Andre! On Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 9:17 AM, you wrote: AM St - Musaic.Net, [SMN] wrote: St TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows- St button + M and see for yourself. AM TB! disappears/minimizes here. AW It depends on wether you have tb! set to show in the task

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-07-27 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Tue, 27 Jul 2004, at 09:44:36 -0500, @ @ when Mary Bull wrote: Still, I want to know, how can I have that button St. M wrote about? You should get so called MS (some call it Windows) keyboard. It has

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Periodical Checking (of mail)

2004-07-27 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello St - Musaic.Net, 27-Jul-2004 15:31, you wrote: check mail every 30 seconds That is a very short interval. Some POP3 servers may not be able to cope with it. Have you tried setting it to something like 3 Minutes and see what happens? -- Best regards, Alexander

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-07-27 Thread Jernej Simonèiè
On Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 16:44:36, Mary Bull wrote: I don't have any such Windows Button to go with a + M. Unless you have a very old 102 or 101-key keyboard (or and IBM lap-top), you definitely have the Windows Logo key. One is located between left Ctrl and Alt, the other is between right

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Some tasks are now active

2004-07-27 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello St - Musaic.Net, 27-Jul-2004 15:21, you wrote: You want to exit and restart TB or reboot the PC. This is pretty easy to do while in front of the PC - but if TB is downloading mail unattended it is a totally different story! According to the help file the command line helps: The

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-07-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mica! On Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 10:18 AM, you wrote: MB Still, I want to know, how can I have that button St. M wrote about? MM You should get so called MS (some call it Windows) keyboard. It has MM additional button between Crtl and Alt. Okay. Thanks. I was confused by the terminology.

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Connection Centre pop-up in Taskbar

2004-07-27 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello St - Musaic.Net, 27-Jul-2004 15:21, you wrote: “Connection Centre” should minimize to System Tray, not Windows Taskbar!”. I have TB check for and download from three accounts at a 30 seconds interval and the (non-timely) pop-in appearance of the “Connection Centre” in the Windows

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-07-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Jernej! On Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 10:20 AM, you wrote: MB I don't have any such Windows Button to go with a + M. JS Unless you have a very old 102 or 101-key keyboard (or and IBM lap-top), you JS definitely have the Windows Logo key. One is located between left Ctrl and JS Alt, the other

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] FETCH - Server reports error

2004-07-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello St, On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:21:30 +0200 GMT (27/07/2004, 20:21 +0700 GMT), St - Musaic.Net wrote: SMN Scenario: I use TB to download mail 24 hours a day – mostly SMN unattended downloading and processing mail. [...] SMN [ Message contains picture - read it here: SMN

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Periodical Checking (of mail)

2004-07-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello St, On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:31:26 +0200 GMT (27/07/2004, 20:31 +0700 GMT), St - Musaic.Net wrote: SMN Anyone having problems with Periodical (Mail) Checking that fails to SMN do exactly so? No, I haven't. But I have noticed that I need to invoke check mail for all in order to ensure

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-07-27 Thread Allie Martin
Andre Wichartz, [AW] wrote: AM TB! disappears/minimizes here. It depends on wether you have tb! set to show in the task bar. Ok. I set TB! to not be shown on the taskbar. If I restore TB! from the systray and then hit Win-D, TB! simply loses focus but isn't minimized. However, it's minimized

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-07-27 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Tue, 27 Jul 2004, at 16:43:29 -0400, @ @ when rich gregory wrote: Still, I want to know, how can I have that button St. M wrote about? MM You should get so called MS (some call it Windows) keyboard. MM It

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-07-27 Thread Dan Grunberg
Hi Scott, Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:26:41 -0500 (11:26 AM EDT here) you wrote: Hello Mica! On Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 10:18 AM, you wrote: MB Still, I want to know, how can I have that button St. M wrote MB about? MM You should get so called MS (some call it Windows) keyboard. MM It has

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-07-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Dan! On Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 6:40 PM, you wrote, in part: MB Okay. Thanks. I was confused by the terminology. I have a keyboard, MB with such a key. When button was mentioned, I thought an on-screen MB button was meant. :) DG In support of Mary (or was it Mary-Alice?), Lewis Carroll (I

Re: TB! annoyances

2004-05-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Stuart, On Fri, 7 May 2004 17:53:33 -0500 GMT (08/05/2004, 05:53 +0700 GMT), Stuart Cuddy wrote: SC Please see the following bug report and add to it. It deals not only SC with the Unread tab, but also to any folder that is filtered to show SC unread messages only. The bug was reported

Re[2]: TB! annoyances

2004-05-07 Thread Martin Webster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, On 07 May 2004, 03:27 + (07/05/200404:27 local time) Thomas Fernandez [TF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TF My current pet peeve is that the Unread tab loses the message I am currently TF reading when after a mail check there are

Re: TB! annoyances

2004-05-07 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Thursday, May 6, 2004, 10:27:32 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: T My current pet peeve is that the Unread tab loses the message I am T currently reading when after a mail check there are no unread T messages in that folder any more. The message currently displayed T in the preview pane should stay

Re: TB! annoyances

2004-05-07 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Thursday, May 6, 2004, 4:31:53 PM, rich gregory wrote: r 3. I have a NEW item to add (why haven't I or others asked yet, or r have we)? r Can't I sort the TRASH folder by date/time DELETED? I'd like to be able to keep track of filtering better. Searching there should be possible, and it

Re: TB! annoyances

2004-05-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dwight, On Fri, 7 May 2004 09:54:39 -0500 GMT (07/05/2004, 21:54 +0700 GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: T My current pet peeve is that the Unread tab loses the message I am T currently reading [...] DAC Yes. And the fact that when you have scrolled down in a long message, DAC then attempt to

Re: TB! annoyances

2004-05-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Martin, On Fri, 7 May 2004 13:00:54 +0100 GMT (07/05/2004, 19:00 +0700 GMT), Martin Webster wrote: MW This seems to demonstrate that the latest release isn't as polished as MW it could be... a little rushed don't you think? No, it's just a new feature that has a little quirk. TF I cannot

Re: TB! annoyances

2004-05-07 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Thomas, On 07-05-2004 19:25, you [TF] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: TF I cannot confirm that. I can. Does not happen every time, however. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.10.03 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os

Re[2]: TB! annoyances

2004-05-07 Thread mm Meister
Hello Thomas, Friday, May 7, 2004, 1:25:41 PM, you wrote: DAC when you have scrolled down in a long message, DAC then attempt to click on something there, for instance to block for DAC reply or to open a link, the message jumps to the top. T I cannot confirm that. Is it possible he meant that

Re[2]: TB! annoyances

2004-05-07 Thread Martin Webster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, On 07 May 2004, 00:24 +0700 (07/05/2004 18:24 local time) Thomas Fernandez [TF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW This seems to demonstrate that the latest release isn't as polished as MW it could be... a little rushed don't you

Re[2]: TB! annoyances

2004-05-07 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Thomas, Thursday, May 6, 2004, 10:27:32 PM, you wrote: TF My current pet peeve is that the Unread tab loses the message I am currently TF reading when after a mail check there are no unread messages in that folder any TF more. The message currently displayed in the preview pane should stay

Re[2]: TB! annoyances

2004-05-07 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Dwight, Friday, May 7, 2004, 9:54:39 AM, you wrote: T My current pet peeve is that the Unread tab loses the message I am T currently reading when after a mail check there are no unread T messages in that folder any more. The message currently displayed T in the preview pane should stay

Re[3]: TB! annoyances

2004-05-07 Thread mm Meister
Hello Stuart, Friday, May 7, 2004, 6:56:43 PM, it was said: DAC when you have scrolled down in a long message, DAC then attempt to click on something there, for instance to block for DAC reply or to open a link, the message jumps to the top. S I have tried to describe this behavior in the

Re: TB! annoyances

2004-05-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Martin Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here are a few things that are hardly bugs but do nonetheless need resolution. I guess they're not as important as proper IMAP support, bug fixing etc. but nonetheless will lead to a more polished product. In no order of importance... My current pet

TB! annoyances

2004-05-06 Thread Martin Webster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL, Here are a few things that are hardly bugs but do nonetheless need resolution. I guess they're not as important as proper IMAP support, bug fixing etc. but nonetheless will lead to a more polished product. In no order of importance...

Re: TB! annoyances

2004-05-06 Thread mm Meister
Hello Martin, Thursday, May 6, 2004, 4:05:59 PM, you wrote: M -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- M Hash: SHA1 M Hello TBUDL, M Here are a few things that are hardly bugs but do nonetheless need M resolution. snip M Okay, so I was scraping the barrel to get to ten. :-) Perhaps a tenth could

Re[2]: TB! annoyances

2004-05-06 Thread Martin Webster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Maggie, On 06 May 2004, 17:26 -0400 (06/05/200422:26 local time) mm Meister [MM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MM Perhaps a tenth could be: If you click on any text (including a link) the MM cursor jumps to another site in the message

Re: TB! annoyances

2004-05-06 Thread Philip Storry
Hello Martin, Thursday, May 6, 2004, 9:05:59 PM, you wrote: MW Here are a few things that are hardly bugs but do nonetheless need MW resolution. I guess they're not as important as proper IMAP support, bug MW fixing etc. but nonetheless will lead to a more polished product. In no MW order of