Re: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-22 Thread Christopher J. Trybowski
Hello Douglas, On Thursday, January 20, 2000 you wrote: > The file - that was downloaded on Jan 19 from > http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/the_bat.exe > is evidently not a compressed file and wants to go into a setup > routine when I click on it. Do I need to go through that? You don't h

Re[3]: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-22 Thread tracer
Hello Tom Plunket, On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:53:09 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, January 22, 2000, 3:53:09 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Tom Plunket wrote: >>> It also seems to me that software should assimilate and be responsive >>> to the needs of its users - not vice versa. J>>

Re: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-22 Thread Peter Steiner
On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:20:33 -0600, Douglas Hinds wrote: >>> The file - that was downloaded on Jan 19 from >>> http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/the_bat.exe >>> is evidently not a compressed file and wants to go into a setup >>> routine when I click on it. Do I need to go through that? PS>>

Re[2]: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-21 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Jast & all fellow TBUDL members, Friday, January 21, 2000, 11:14:43 PM, Jast wrote in response the question: >> How long did it take you all to get a working installation of TB!? It >> took me a long time. That was a lot of work. J> IIRC, it took me about an hour or two the very fir

Re[2]: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-21 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Peter & all fellow TBUDL members, Friday, January 21, 2000, 6:17:42 PM, Peter wrote in response to my saying: >> The file - that was downloaded on Jan 19 from >> http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/the_bat.exe >> is evidently not a compressed file and wants to go into a setup >> routin

Re: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-21 Thread Jast
Morning Tom Plunket, > How long did it take you all to get a working installation of TB!? It > took me a long time. That was a lot of work. Let's see... IIRC, it took me about an hour or two the very first time, which I think is okay considering all I had used before was the ugly Co

Re: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-21 Thread Peter Steiner
On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:10:19 -0600, Douglas Hinds wrote: > The file - that was downloaded on Jan 19 from > http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/the_bat.exe > is evidently not a compressed file and wants to go into a setup > routine when I click on it. Do I need to go through that? It is a self

Re[2]: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-21 Thread Tom Plunket
>> It also seems to me that software should assimilate and be responsive >> to the needs of its users - not vice versa. J> True, but it's hard for software itself to do so. Sure, you can make it J> super-customizable, but that will always mean work for the user to customize J> it. How

Re[3]: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-21 Thread Tom Plunket
TP>> I have four words I could say to that, but I won't. DH> he failed to take my comment to heart and reacted stupidly. DH> The four words he refers to are obviously offensive ones. "obviously" to some perhaps. To me, inappropriate to the list but not necessarily offensive. Reacting stupidly?

Fwd: Re[3]: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-21 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello TBUDL! -- Ciao, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Generated with The Bat! 1.39 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at htt

Fwd: Message not intended for posting on TBUDL (was) Re[2]: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-21 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello TBUDL! -- Ciao, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Generated with The Bat! 1.39 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at htt

Fwd: Re: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-21 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello TBUDL! -- Ciao, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Generated with The Bat! 1.39 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at htt

Re[3]: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-21 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello fellow TBUDL members, I see I mistakenly sent what was meant to be an off list post to TBUDL. I'll have to watch that. Douglas As for any additional misinterpretations of my original remarks: What I said still goes for all concerned and see me off list if that's a problem. Douglas --

Re: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-21 Thread Allie Martin
On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:50:45 -0600, Douglas Hinds wrote: AM>> Yes you can, with no harm to your installation. It will simply AM>> upgrade the relevant files. I have been using the same TB install AM>> through all the upgrades since April, 1999. > OK. So there's no needed to download the .exe onl

Re: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-21 Thread Allie Martin
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:45:00 +0100, Jast wrote: > True, but it's hard for software itself to do so. Sure, you can > make it super-customizable, but that will always mean work for the > user to customize it. If you get to learn a new software with new > paradigms, you should try to get

Re: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-21 Thread Allie Martin
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:18:53 -0500, G. Cowling, SRNA wrote: DH>>> but while many of your comments may be helpful, I strongly suggest DH>>> you suspend your assumptions to a greater degree and try to DH>>> assimilate the approach TB takes to windows email. > I'd probably have taken this response

Re[4]: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-21 Thread tracer
Hello G. Cowling, SRNA, On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:18:53 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Friday, January 21, 2000, 12:18:53 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, G. Cowling, SRNA wrote: G.> in response to my saying: DH>>> but while many of your comments may be helpful, I strongly suggest DH>>> you susp

Re[4]: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-21 Thread tracer
Hello Tom Plunket, On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:42:57 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Friday, January 21, 2000, 3:42:57 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Tom Plunket wrote: Tom>>> If you were to come to get carpal tunnel syndrome (which has been Tom>>> extending its talons into me recently), you'll c

Re: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-21 Thread tracer
Hello Douglas Hinds, On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:10:19 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Friday, January 21, 2000, 4:10:19 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Douglas Hinds wrote: Douglas> Hello fellow TBUDL members, Douglas> Wednesday, Jan 19, 2000 07:13:30 I wrote to ask: Douglas> Does upgrading fro

Re: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-20 Thread Jast
Morning G. Cowling, SRNA, > It also seems to me that software should assimilate and be responsive > to the needs of its users - not vice versa. True, but it's hard for software itself to do so. Sure, you can make it super-customizable, but that will always mean work for the user to cust

Re[3]: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-20 Thread G. Cowling, SRNA
in response to my saying: DH>> but while many of your comments may be helpful, I strongly suggest DH>> you suspend your assumptions to a greater degree and try to DH>> assimilate the approach TB takes to windows email. I'd probably have taken this response the same way he did. It also seems to

Re[2]: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-20 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Allie (off TBUDL), Thursday, January 20, 2000, 5:52:20 PM, Allie wrote in response to my saying: AM> On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:10:19 -0600, Douglas Hinds wrote: >> Does upgrading from v. 1.38e to v. 1.39 involve more than switching >> the .exe file? (as in the last 2 previous upgrades - the

Re[2]: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-20 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Roel & all fellow TBUDL members, Thursday, January 20, 2000, 3:52:15 PM, Roel wrote in response to my saying: DH>> Does upgrading from v. 1.38e to v. 1.39 involve more than DH>> switching the .exe file? (as in the last 2 previous upgrades - the DH>> last of which also had a new help file

Re: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-20 Thread Allie Martin
On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:10:19 -0600, Douglas Hinds wrote: > Does upgrading from v. 1.38e to v. 1.39 involve more than switching > the .exe file? (as in the last 2 previous upgrades - the last of which > also had a new help file if I remember correctly). > The file - that was downloaded on Jan 19

Re: TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-20 Thread Roel
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Douglas, DH> Does upgrading from v. 1.38e to v. 1.39 involve more than DH> switching the .exe file? (as in the last 2 previous upgrades - the DH

TB! v 1.39 Installation

2000-01-20 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello fellow TBUDL members, Wednesday, Jan 19, 2000 07:13:30 I wrote to ask: Does upgrading from v. 1.38e to v. 1.39 involve more than switching the .exe file? (as in the last 2 previous upgrades - the last of which also had a new help file if I remember correctly). The file - that was downlo

Re[3]: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-20 Thread Tom Plunket
Tom>> If you were to come to get carpal tunnel syndrome (which has been Tom>> extending its talons into me recently), you'll come to appreciate the Tom>> difference between pressing ^] for next message vs. 'n' or . t> whats wrong with arrow up and down? Nothing, if unread messages thread anywh

Re[3]: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-20 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Thursday, January 20, 2000, tracer wrote to Tom Plunket about Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list: Tom>> If you were to come to get carpal tunnel syndrome (which has been Tom>> extending its talons into me recently), you'

Re[2]: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-20 Thread tracer
Tom> If you were to come to get carpal tunnel syndrome (which has been Tom> extending its talons into me recently), you'll come to appreciate the Tom> difference between pressing ^] for next message vs. 'n' or . whats wrong with arrow up and down? Tom> I am so happy someone pointed out that you

Re[2]: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-20 Thread tracer
Hello Thomas Fernandez, On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 00:38:15 +0800 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, January 19, 2000, 11:38:15 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Thomas> Hallo Douglas, Thomas> On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:57:20 -0600 GMT (19.01.2000, 23:57 +0800 GMT), Thomas> Dougla

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Tom Plunket
DH> Have you tried Alt-J? Personally can't stand all of the weird spacing, but that has nothing to do with virtual space: DH> I use TB for correspondence in both English and Spanish. Spanish DH> text is generally justified. You can justify any paragraph "de DH> volada" (on the fly) simply by doi

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 19 Jan 00, at 22:54, Thomas Fernandez wrote about "Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 In": > With virtuals folder (if we get them), you could filter all incoming > messages into one. The you could have "read"-filters sorting the > messages into the folders where you want to store

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Allie Martin
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:40:46 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > I don't know what *virtually* viewing messages means. I always > *really* view my messages. When you use the search facility to run search across all accounts, it displays all the matches in it's viewer. You are able to read the

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Nick Danger
In Reference to "Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list" From Thomas Fernandez: TF> With virtuals folder (if we get them), you could filter all incoming TF> messages into one. The you could have "read"-filters sorting the TF> messages into the fol

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Allie Martin
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:17:07 +0100, Jast wrote: >> Ah, you mean the same as the "virtual folders" discussed earlier, with >> the option "show all new messages here". > Well, the mail ticker can do it, but I don't like it :-( Your car will move 2 tons of sand from a to b .. (after 20 tr

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Allie Martin
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:54:17 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: [..snip..] > With virtuals folder (if we get them), you could filter all incoming > messages into one. The you could have "read"-filters sorting the > messages into the folders where you want to store them. Virtual > folders should be i

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Allie Martin
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 07:13:30 -0600, Douglas Hinds wrote: [..snip..] > You may have noticed that most TB users and supporters (i.e. AEV) on > TBUDL *aren't your* "typical Windows users", don't share the typical > assumptions held by US "Windows users" and are not even in the U.S. > Welcome to TB!

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Jast
Morning Thomas Fernandez, > Ah, you mean the same as the "virtual folders" discussed earlier, with > the option "show all new messages here". Well, the mail ticker can do it, but I don't like it :-( > With virtuals folder (if we get them), you could filter all incoming > messages into one. The

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Douglas, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:57:20 -0600 GMT (19.01.2000, 23:57 +0800 GMT), Douglas Hinds wrote: TF While reading mail: I switch accounts with the mouse. DH> You have to look for it. And you don't have to look at a pop-up window? TF>> I hope you don't mean something *always* visa

Re[2]: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Thomas & all fellow TBUDL members, Wednesday, January 19, 2000, 8:54:17 AM, Thomas wrote in response to my saying: DH>> Right. One for each account. Then you need macros for each and DH>> every signature / active account combination. TF> Actually, if you click on "share with other accoun

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Douglas, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 08:36:11 -0600 GMT (19.01.2000, 22:36 +0800 GMT), Douglas Hinds wrote: TF>> You can do that with quick templates. DH> Right. One for each account. Then you need macros for each and every DH> signature / active account combination. Are you kidding? Actually, i

Re[2]: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Thomas & all fellow TBUDL members, Wednesday, January 19, 2000, 7:40:46 AM, Thomas wrote in response to my saying: DH>> .. when composing I do want the multiple signatures available DH>> from a pop up window, TF> You can do that with quick templates. Right. One for each account. Then yo

Re: Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Douglas, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 07:13:30 -0600 GMT (19.01.2000, 21:13 +0800 GMT), Douglas Hinds wrote: DH> On the other hand, when composing I do want the multiple signatures DH> available from a pop up window, You can do that with quick templates. DH> the active account also available from

Internal Editor + TB! v 1.39 Installation & wish list

2000-01-19 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Tom & all other fellow TBUDL members, Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 2:20:10 PM, Tom wrote in response to Mark's saying: MDP (it's only one additional keystroke after all. TP> I'm getting used to The Bat!'s virtual space, I still don't like it. First of All: *Does upgrading from v. 1.38