Here is a related story that is new:
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/05/17/scania-shows-new-ethanol-hybrid-bus/
This might make a good caving vehicle for a grotto-trips in Iowa.
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How many miles of unexplored passage are there?
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About 2 months ago, I posted something about a new K2 headlamp
at Target for $ 25.00.
I finally got one, and since it is a very good headlamp, I feel I should
post more about it.
This headlamp is worth every penny of that $ 25.00.
This would be a great headlamp for someone new to caving who pla
This is a reminder that the kickoff of our swimming season is an afternoon
swim this Monday (Memorial Day) from 2:00 to 6:00 or so. I plan to have the
hot tub hot at all these events, so in case there is cloudy weather, we can
still get motivated to swim. On the other hand, heavy rain, less tha
The enlarged version accessible on the website indicates it is about 150
meters wide.
Jerry.
In a message dated 5/23/2007 2:19:52 P.M. Central Standard Time,
eda...@realtime.net writes:
Any idea how big this thing is?
The cutout view shows the edges real good. Looks like it was done w
All gas has 10% ethanol
E85 is 85% ethanol
From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:37 PM
To: John P Brooks; Mary Thiesse; Kara Savvas; Jack Wood;
texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Re: $ 2.89 lowest price found - way OT!!
Bill, here's some Powell's Cave history: Dave McKenzie was the first to
push upstream Powell's in the 60's. Then I went on several trips both up
and downstream. The lack of wet suits was not a big factor at first.
Each team pushing upstream surveyed about 1000-1200 feet per trip, so it
got hard
YES Texas does have farm subsidies for farmers that grow corn. From 1995-2005
Texas farmers got 1.1 Billion dollars yes(B). Google farm subsidies. Click on
to the second entry that talks about state by state .
Sam's Club on I-10 at Beltway 8 west pumps show that the gasoline is 10%
ethanol.
Fritz
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From: John P Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:03 AM
To: Mary Thiesse; Kara Savvas; Jack Wood; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Re: $
Bill Steele said:
>I too have been to both places, and given the choice between hauling a tank
>and my caving pack to the upstream sump in Honey Creek Cave where we went last
>weekend, or hauling only my caving pack to the lead at the end of the Mile
>Long Crawl passage in Honey Creek Cav
Disclaimer: My family grows a lot of corn.
Corn may not be the most optimum choice for energy conversion, but right now
we have an infrastructure well suited to growing corn. We've got years of
experience on how to grow it, and we have the ability to produce lots of it.
If corn-based ethanol tu
Jenny,
You can never tell the size of a snake in a picture when it is held in
front of a person but it was evident that this was a very large snake
from its body and head proportions. I am dubious about the 9 ft. 1 inch
(live ?) length because if this could be officially authenticated it
would be a
I too have been to both places, and given the choice between hauling a tank and
my caving pack to the upstream sump in Honey Creek Cave where we went last
weekend, or hauling only my caving pack to the lead at the end of the Mile Long
Crawl passage in Honey Creek Cave, I'd take the latter.
Bill
Here's another hard Texas caving trop to throw out there: the end of the
upstream passage in Powell's Cave. If I remember the story correctly, the
beginning of that passage had been explored and mapped by Texas cavers in the
60s, but they didn't have wetsuits back then, so they reached their li
I no longer think of going to the sump as being a hard and incredibly difficult
trip but that opinion is restricted to simply having a pack of typical caving
gear. But when you add to the typical gear of water/food/lights and add
Hauling a 35+ lb scuba tank in your pack, or 25+lb large pelican
Any idea how big this thing is?
The cutout view shows the edges real good. Looks like it was done with a
paper punch.
Lee H. Skinner wrote:
Another cave entrance on Mars! See this high-res picture from the Mars
Reconnaissance Orbiter! This one is amazing.
Go to:
http://hiroc.lpl.arizona.e
George Irvin (DIR father) doesn't dive with them anymore but from my
understanding stays in touch and "consults" on some dives.
DIR does not believe in the use of electronic equipment, they figure their
decompression obligations using what is called "ratio deco" no dive
computers allowed.
The equ
I remember reading in several of the owners manuals of my previous vehicles,
that one should not use fuel with more than the aforementioned 10% ethanol, due
to the damage it would cause to the various fuel delivery components, which
would then void any warranty.
One might suppose that that si
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From: Scott
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: May 23, 2007 11:55 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] Practical Mathematics
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
*Practical Mathematics*
*ROMANCE MATHEMATICS*
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man
-Original Message-
>From: Bill Mixon
>Sent: May 23, 2007 2:23 PM
>To: CaveTex
>Subject: [Texascavers] economics of E85
>
>I didn't say there was a subsidy for corn farmers. I said ethanol as a fuel
>was a government "gift" to corn farmers. There is a huge subsidy on fuel
>ethanol produc
Ed Goff said:
>I think I remember being more exhausted after a push trip past the Mile Long
>Crawl. I still haven't ever done the through trip--maybe that's harder.
I agree that going beyond the Mile-long Crawl in Honey Creek is more
tiring than going to the sump. I've been both pl
Reposted from the speleogenesis.info mailing list by Mixon. Since NCKRI is
supposed to be a non-profit group, I wonder why they can't publish a
106-page book for less than $35. Maybe it's full of color pix or something.
+
This is an announcement of a new publ
Those dives at Wakulla and vicinity by the WKPP are certainly hardcore
dives. They are essentially all saturation dives (where they don't bother to
pay attention to how long they've been at depth, because longer won't make
the decompression obligation any worse than it already is.) Indeed, a lot of
There seems to be some confusion here. Lots of--perhaps most--gasoline
contains 10% ethanol. It is supposed to reduce pollution somehow because
there is some oxygen in ethanol. I suspect, though, that it is as much
politics as anything (those corn farmers, again). All gasoline vehicles can
burn it
I didn't say there was a subsidy for corn farmers. I said ethanol as a fuel
was a government "gift" to corn farmers. There is a huge subsidy on fuel
ethanol production, and demand from ethanol plants has raised the price of
corn. Considering that it takes something like the equivalent of 85% of the
Hey, good summary, Bill! This was a hard trip. Maybe James's trip was the
hardest in Texas since 1990--and after coming out and sleeping for 3 hours, he
did a marathon drive to Zacaton. For the rest of us, it could be the hardest
trip with a four-hour nap in the middle. ;) I think I remember being
Nico: Yes there are several indian shelter caves with pictographs on that mesa
as well as Spanish fortifications built after the indians were defeated.
Candela was founded in the 1600's, I think, and the indians raiding off the
mesa were problematic. There are persons on this list that know much
Another cave entrance on Mars! See this high-res picture from the Mars
Reconnaissance Orbiter! This one is amazing.
Go to:
http://hiroc.lpl.arizona.edu/images/PSP/diafotizo.php?ID=PSP_003647_1745
Then click on the Full Browse Version for a great image!
Lee Skinner
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Duane Hummel said:
>So half the people are above average?
Unless you live in Lake Wobegon, where all the children are above
average. :-)
Mark Minton
Practical Mathematics
ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart bo
There are actually 10. Those that understand binary, and those who don't.
On 5/23/07, Nascar Caver wrote:
There are 3 kinds of people in the world... those that can count and those
that cannot.
NCC
On 5/23/07, Duane Hummel wrote:
>
> So half the people are above average?
>
> Duane
>
There are 3 kinds of people in the world... those that can count and those
that cannot.
NCC
On 5/23/07, Duane Hummel wrote:
So half the people are above average?
Duane
*Tim Kohtz * wrote:
Einstein once said that if you think of how smart the average Joe is, half
the population are mo
So half the people are above average?
Duane
Tim Kohtz wrote:
Einstein once said that if you think of how smart the average Joe is, half
the population are more stupid than that.
>From: "Minton, Mark"
>To: Cave Texas
>Subject: [Texascavers] RE: Math Skills
>Date: Mon, 21 May 2007
An interesting note if people don't know is a lot of this cave system is in
the 300 foot depth range, these dives are considered by many to be
saturation dives.
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Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:28 AM
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Stone' site
http://www.stoneaerospace.com/news-/news-zacaton-mission3-01.php
has more details.
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It will probably now be argued whether or not a tank haul trip to the back of
Honey Creek Cave is the hardest caving trip in the state of Texas. However,
I’ve been an active caver in Texas for 30 years, and it’s the hardest trip I’ve
taken in the Lone Star State, and I've done several.
Last Sa
If anyone has an e-mail address for Terry Sayther, please send it to me offline.
Thanks,
Bill
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Nico,
Has anybody heard or been to a cave in Lampazos, Nuevo Leon with indian remains
or the indian paintings on Mesa de Catujanes (cartujanos) in the same area?
I find no mention of that in the AMCS Newsletter or Activities Newsletter.
Mark Minton
Its wierd that you have not seen itmy high performance gas that I buy
from 7-11 claims to have up to 10% ethanol contentwhich I suppose is E85
isn't it?
But then...maybe us "corn fed" North Texans are a few years more advanced,
more ecologically friendly and more Liberal than you
Do a quick google of "corn subsidies"
So I hope I am just dense this early in the morning and don't get the
joke... I will save my corn rant a while longer in the hope that I missed
the pun.
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From: Curtis Bullard [mailto:bullardb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:41 PM
Cc: CaveTex
Subject: Re: [T
MessageHey, Butch, that was a great accompaniment to my morning coffee. Thanks,
and thanks to Pete & Jim & Bill for sharing their pictures. Jacqui
- Original Message -
From: Butch Fralia
To: A Texas Caving Remailer for Texas Cavers
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 4:39 PM
Subject:
No Passageway Found Between Cave Systems
By Bruce Ritchie
Divers last weekend failed to find a cave passageway between Leon Sinks and
Wakulla Springs State Park.
Divers since 1990 have been trying to find a link between the two cave
systems. Park supporters say the exploration has been key
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