Re: [Texascavers] mysterious roadcut geology

2010-01-25 Thread Josh Rubinstein
I'll take a shot at this. My guess from one photo is that this a ball and pillow structure. These are caused by slumping or landslides particularly in submarine environments where denser material slides down slope on saturated less dense material. As seen in the photo, such structures are

[NMCAVER] Fw: Statement from Peter Youngbaer, WNS liaison for the NSS

2010-01-25 Thread jen.
- Forwarded Message From: Steve Smith stevenlsm...@usa.net To: stevenlsm...@usa.net Cc: youngba...@aol.com; we...@cunacueva.com Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 9:16:06 PM Subject: Statement from Peter Youngbaer, WNS liaison for the NSS I just received this statement from Peter Youngbaer,

[NMCAVER] CBD petition

2010-01-25 Thread Jim Kennedy
This is indeed a knee-jerk reaction that will likely have many unintended negative results. BCI is formulating a statement on this petition. Check the website (www.batcon.org) later this week for an update. --- Crash ___ NMCAVER mailing list

[NMCAVER] Fort Stanton Cave science story

2010-01-25 Thread Lee H. Skinner
http://www.unm.edu/~market/cgi-bin/archives/004713.html ___ NMCAVER mailing list nmca...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/nmcaver_caver.net

[NMCAVER] LNF closing for recreational caving

2010-01-25 Thread jen.
It is my understanding that the Guadalupe District of the Lincoln National Forest in NM is no longer issuing recreational caving permits due to their lack of funding for a cave specialist. I have heard rumors they might be considering allowing commercial guides. In 1998 the NSS agreed to

[Texascavers] Fwd: [NMCAVER] LNF closing for recreational caving

2010-01-25 Thread Gill Edigar
-- Forwarded message -- From: jen. bigredfo...@yahoo.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:41 PM Subject: [NMCAVER] LNF closing for recreational caving To: we...@cunacueva.com, nssbo...@yahoogroups.com, nmca...@caver.net It is my understanding

Re: [NMCAVER] LNF closing for recreational caving

2010-01-25 Thread Stephen Fleming
jen. wrote: It is my understanding that the Guadalupe District of the Lincoln National Forest in NM is no longer issuing recreational caving permits due to their lack of funding for a cave specialist. I have heard rumors they might be considering allowing commercial guides. In 1998 the NSS

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: [NMCAVER] LNF closing for recreational caving

2010-01-25 Thread Jim Evatt
I presume Jacqueline Buchanan is the District Ranger of the Guadalupe District. I rather doubt that she has the financial authority to hire a cave specialist. The decision to replace or create a position is almost certainly made at a higher level, particularly in light of the current federal

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: [NMCAVER] LNF closing for recreational caving

2010-01-25 Thread Stephen Fleming
Jim Evatt wrote: I presume Jacqueline Buchanan is the District Ranger of the Guadalupe District. I rather doubt that she has the financial authority to hire a cave specialist. The decision to replace or create a position is almost certainly made at a higher level, particularly in light of

texascavers Digest 26 Jan 2010 01:13:39 -0000 Issue 952

2010-01-25 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 26 Jan 2010 01:13:39 - Issue 952 Topics (messages 13376 through 13393): Chicxulub? 13376 by: bmorgan994.aol.com Re: Robber Baron - fall 1987 13377 by: Geary Schindel Re: CBD Petition to close caves - Msg from NSS WNS Liaison 13378 by: Gill Edigar

[Texascavers] Fwd: Understanding the geology behind a landslide

2010-01-25 Thread Joe Evelynn Mitchell
Understanding the geology behind a landslide Reported by: Steve Linscomb Email: stevelinsc...@woaitv.com Last Update: 6:42 pm Landslide Close-Up (WOAI.com) SAN ANTONIO - A number of Northwest Side homeowners are watching as their homes are devastated as they slide down a slope. Sadly, there's

[ot_caving] 8 tracks

2010-01-25 Thread Fritz Holt
I may have the last word on this but I am jumping to OT as it would be a stretch (until broken) to call this caving related. The coolest songs and sounds for me was The Best of Bread on the Quadraphonic player in my 74 Chevy Nova. The different sounds from four corners was awesome. Wish I had

RE: [ot_caving] 8 tracks

2010-01-25 Thread Jenny Holt
I also loved the Bread 8 track, but Mandy and I mostly loved our quadraphonic 8 track of the Doobie Bros, What was Once Vices are Now Habits. We also enjoyed it in our Dad's hand me down '74 Luxury Nova! Good Times (not the van). Our previous hand me down, The Red Rocket, a '67 Galaxie 500

RE: [Texascavers] CBC Emergency Petitions Filed to Close Caves and Save Bats From Extinction

2010-01-25 Thread SS
Maybe they should petition the government for a caving Tax while their at it. We can add it to the list... Accounts Receivable Tax Building Permit Tax CDL license Tax Cigarette Tax Corporate Income Tax Dog License Tax

[Texascavers] San Antonio sinkholes..

2010-01-25 Thread tbsamsel
“Our backyard has shifted about 10 feet, and everything is pushed closer to our house,” said Sara Koenig, 23. She and her husband, 27, left early Sunday to study and to volunteer at a local hospital, respectively. She said neighbors called her at 11 a.m. to report their back fence had

RE: [Texascavers] San Antonio sinkholes..

2010-01-25 Thread Geary Schindel
Folks, This is not a sinkhole but a classic hill slope failure. Quite impressive as slips go. Geary -Original Message- From: tbsam...@verizon.net [mailto:tbsam...@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:32 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: jrsam...@aol.com Subject:

RE: [Texascavers] San Antonio sinkholes..

2010-01-25 Thread SS
The neighborhood was probably built on a landfill...lol. That's what happens when you cut corners...I hope Centex gets sued into bankruptcy. -Original Message- From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:48 PM To: tbsam...@verizon.net;

RE: [Texascavers] Climate change

2010-01-25 Thread SS
Its like fleas arguing over who owns the dogs back. At the end of the day we are having no more effect on the earth than anything else. All the pollution in the world doesn't add up to anything like some of the catastrophic events the earth has suffered since it was born. Before you and I

Re: [Texascavers] Climate change

2010-01-25 Thread Gill Edigar
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:16 PM, SS back2scool...@hotmail.com wrote: At the end of the day we are having no more effect on the earth than anything else. That statement, I feel, is important enough to reply to. Some of the others are interesting but can wait till I have more time. Yes, we are

[Texascavers] a caver party invitation / update

2010-01-25 Thread David
As of 01-26-10, my plan to host a cook-out in east Texas is still on. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=306448097728ref=ts For those of you who can't view that, the date is May 22, and the location is Burton, Texas, about 1 1/4 hour east of Bastrop. Try this link for a map showing

[Texascavers] San Antonio slumps

2010-01-25 Thread Gill Edigar
It is often said and there is a widespread misconception that the Balcones Fault is inactive, meaning that it no longer moves. First, the idea that it is only one fault is inaccurate; it is more correctly a fault zone made up of probably millions of smaller, local faults, some mere meters long,

Re: [Texascavers] caving and insurance

2010-01-25 Thread Gill Edigar
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Ryan Monjaras muviduder...@hotmail.comwrote: thats only if its a student organization like the geology club, but if an individual student wants to go to CBSP then that persons regular insurance would cover it if that person got injured How would a student

Re: [Texascavers] caving and insurance

2010-01-25 Thread Brian Riordan
I distinctly recall having ASS meetings where we talked about caves that individuals COULD go to if they had the correct permission. And then after the meeting, someone would let it slip that they had information where that was, and invite all their friends... Who of course happened to be at the

Re: [Texascavers] caving and insurance

2010-01-25 Thread wa5pok
How would a student organization like the geology club be different from a student organization like the caving club? Does that mean that so long as it's not announced as a club trip then everyone would be considered to be an individual caver--not a club member?  --Ediger Well ... at Sul Ross

[Texascavers] Mystery rocks, Chicxulub?

2010-01-25 Thread BMorgan994
Josh: I'll buy your explanation for Jim Conrad's road cut, but my mystery rocks are entirely different. Tell me what you think: (Photo not shown, email me and I will send it. Is there any way to post a resized photo on Texas caver? I see that others have occasionally posted photos. I