[Texascavers] grotto bylaws (or constitutions)

2012-10-02 Thread Mixon Bill
Actually, I'd guess that William Russell might be the only active member who has actually seen bylaws of the UT Grotto. The NSS Internal Organizations Committee (http://caves.org/committee/i-o/ ) used to have a model set of bylaws for grottos. I can't find any such thing on the NSS web site

[Texascavers] z withard / papers

2012-10-02 Thread russ johnson
¿prueba positiva? -- Russ Llano, TX

texascavers Digest 3 Oct 2012 00:51:28 -0000 Issue 1639

2012-10-02 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 3 Oct 2012 00:51:28 - Issue 1639 Topics (messages 20776 through 20785): William L. Wilson Scholarship in Karst Science 20776 by: NSS Announcements Justin Shaw 20777 by: Aimee Beveridge Cave and Karst Webinar Next Week--Not Just for Teachers! 20778

[Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread Mallory Mayeux
Greetings, Texas cavers! The Houston grotto is in the process of updating it's constitution (which hasn't been touched since 1972) and I wanted to get some insight from other parts of the Texas caving community. How many officers does your grotto have? What are their titles/roles? Do you have sep

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread Lyndon Tiu
I think the UT Grotto in Austin has no contitution at all can someone in the UT Grotto confirm this is the case? On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Mallory Mayeux wrote: > Greetings, Texas cavers! > > The Houston grotto is in the process of updating it's constitution (which > hasn't been touche

RE: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread ryan monjaras
According to legend the U.T. Grotto does have a constitution Once upon a time (the mid 70's), the N.S.S. sent out word throughout the land requesting constitutions from all the kingdoms (N.S.S. affiliated grottos) and a copy was magically produced as if out of thin air. Grotto lore says that t

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread Roger Moore
I love that story!! Sent from my iPad On Oct 2, 2012, at 5:53 PM, ryan monjaras wrote: > According to legend the U.T. Grotto does have a constitution Once upon a > time (the mid 70's), the N.S.S. sent out word throughout the land requesting > constitutions from all the kingdoms (N.S.S. affil

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread Josh Rubinstein
The Rockeaters in New York had only two rules. Rule 1) Anyone who wanted to could be president. Rule 2) Kill the president. It cut down on speleo-politics. Josh On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Mallory Mayeux wrote: > Greetings, Texas cavers! > > The Houston grotto is in the process of upd

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread jerryatkin
I have copies of all the extant grotto constitutions that were archived on the TSS files, including the UTG. Jerry. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2012, at 5:53 PM, ryan monjaras wrote: > According to legend the U.T. Grotto does have a constitution Once upon a > time (the mid 70's), the N.S.

RE: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread Marvin and Lisa
The Bexar Grotto has a fairly well written constitution. It was last revised in 1994, when I was just getting started as a caver. The constitution calls for four officers: Chairperson, Vice-Chair of Programs, Vice-Chair of Trips, and Secretary-Treasurer. For a long time now the secretary-treasurer

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread germanyj
I guess this makes you the Grand Wizard! -Original Message- From: jerryatkin To: ryan monjaras Cc: ; texas cavers Sent: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:02 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups? I have copies of all the extant grotto constitutions that were archived on the TSS fil

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread jerryatkin
I think not. Just some research files compiled during the writing of 50 Years of Texas Caving. Jerry. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:13 PM, germa...@aol.com wrote: > I guess this makes you the Grand Wizard! > > > > -Original Message- > From: jerryatkin > To: ryan monjar

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread germanyj
Good thing we have organized folks like you! -Original Message- From: jerryatkin To: germanyj Cc: trogdog ; ltiu ; texascavers Sent: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 11:32 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups? I think not. Just some research files compiled during the writing of 50 Y

[tcrcooks] Chicken Chili

2012-10-02 Thread Leslie Bell
Ok, I changed the recipe for the chili due to limited availability of venison. Here we go (feeds about 15): Half a chicken (create own chicken broth by boiling) 1 lb. of dry red kidney beans 3 cloves of garlic 1 jalapeno 1 tablespoon olive oil (yes, a cheat) 16 oz boiler onions 2 teaspoons chili

[tcrcooks] fish dish recipe

2012-10-02 Thread Tommy Joe
Guys, What do you think about pieces of seafood warped in a banana leaf and seamed. Servers would cut the packets open with scissor and offer a spicy or mild sauce to spoon on top. Packet will contain: Fish & shellfish Onion epazote achiote past roasted garlic salt pepper Sauce/mild: roast

RE: [tcrcooks] fish dish recipe

2012-10-02 Thread Stefan Creaser
Hi Tommy Joe, I like the idea but have some concerns, or a concern. It would seem that the dish is 90% fish, which if we know that fish is expensive means that each portion is going to be small to cover 100+ people. Is there any way you can add a filler (like the original tamale idea which had

Re: [tcrcooks] fish dish recipe

2012-10-02 Thread Leslie Bell
mm... sounds good. Leslie Bell --- On Tue, 10/2/12, Tommy Joe wrote: From: Tommy Joe Subject: [tcrcooks] fish dish recipe To: "tcrco...@texascavers.com" List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tuesday, October 2, 2012, 12:13 PM Guys, What do you think about pieces of seafood war

[Texascavers] grotto bylaws (or constitutions)

2012-10-02 Thread Mixon Bill
Actually, I'd guess that William Russell might be the only active member who has actually seen bylaws of the UT Grotto. The NSS Internal Organizations Committee (http://caves.org/committee/i-o/ ) used to have a model set of bylaws for grottos. I can't find any such thing on the NSS web site

[Texascavers] z withard / papers

2012-10-02 Thread russ johnson
¿prueba positiva? -- Russ Llano, TX

texascavers Digest 3 Oct 2012 00:51:28 -0000 Issue 1639

2012-10-02 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 3 Oct 2012 00:51:28 - Issue 1639 Topics (messages 20776 through 20785): William L. Wilson Scholarship in Karst Science 20776 by: NSS Announcements Justin Shaw 20777 by: Aimee Beveridge Cave and Karst Webinar Next Week--Not Just for Teachers! 20778

[Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread Mallory Mayeux
Greetings, Texas cavers! The Houston grotto is in the process of updating it's constitution (which hasn't been touched since 1972) and I wanted to get some insight from other parts of the Texas caving community. How many officers does your grotto have? What are their titles/roles? Do you have sep

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread Lyndon Tiu
I think the UT Grotto in Austin has no contitution at all can someone in the UT Grotto confirm this is the case? On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Mallory Mayeux wrote: > Greetings, Texas cavers! > > The Houston grotto is in the process of updating it's constitution (which > hasn't been touche

RE: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread ryan monjaras
According to legend the U.T. Grotto does have a constitution Once upon a time (the mid 70's), the N.S.S. sent out word throughout the land requesting constitutions from all the kingdoms (N.S.S. affiliated grottos) and a copy was magically produced as if out of thin air. Grotto lore says that t

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread Roger Moore
I love that story!! Sent from my iPad On Oct 2, 2012, at 5:53 PM, ryan monjaras wrote: > According to legend the U.T. Grotto does have a constitution Once upon a > time (the mid 70's), the N.S.S. sent out word throughout the land requesting > constitutions from all the kingdoms (N.S.S. affil

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread Josh Rubinstein
The Rockeaters in New York had only two rules. Rule 1) Anyone who wanted to could be president. Rule 2) Kill the president. It cut down on speleo-politics. Josh On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Mallory Mayeux wrote: > Greetings, Texas cavers! > > The Houston grotto is in the process of upd

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread jerryatkin
I have copies of all the extant grotto constitutions that were archived on the TSS files, including the UTG. Jerry. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2012, at 5:53 PM, ryan monjaras wrote: > According to legend the U.T. Grotto does have a constitution Once upon a > time (the mid 70's), the N.S.

RE: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread Marvin and Lisa
The Bexar Grotto has a fairly well written constitution. It was last revised in 1994, when I was just getting started as a caver. The constitution calls for four officers: Chairperson, Vice-Chair of Programs, Vice-Chair of Trips, and Secretary-Treasurer. For a long time now the secretary-treasurer

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread germanyj
I guess this makes you the Grand Wizard! -Original Message- From: jerryatkin To: ryan monjaras Cc: ; texas cavers Sent: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:02 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups? I have copies of all the extant grotto constitutions that were archived on the TSS fil

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread jerryatkin
I think not. Just some research files compiled during the writing of 50 Years of Texas Caving. Jerry. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:13 PM, germa...@aol.com wrote: > I guess this makes you the Grand Wizard! > > > > -Original Message- > From: jerryatkin > To: ryan monjar

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread germanyj
Good thing we have organized folks like you! -Original Message- From: jerryatkin To: germanyj Cc: trogdog ; ltiu ; texascavers Sent: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 11:32 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups? I think not. Just some research files compiled during the writing of 50 Y

[tcrcooks] Chicken Chili

2012-10-02 Thread Leslie Bell
Ok, I changed the recipe for the chili due to limited availability of venison. Here we go (feeds about 15): Half a chicken (create own chicken broth by boiling) 1 lb. of dry red kidney beans 3 cloves of garlic 1 jalapeno 1 tablespoon olive oil (yes, a cheat) 16 oz boiler onions 2 teaspoons chili

[tcrcooks] fish dish recipe

2012-10-02 Thread Tommy Joe
Guys, What do you think about pieces of seafood warped in a banana leaf and seamed. Servers would cut the packets open with scissor and offer a spicy or mild sauce to spoon on top. Packet will contain: Fish & shellfish Onion epazote achiote past roasted garlic salt pepper Sauce/mild: roast

RE: [tcrcooks] fish dish recipe

2012-10-02 Thread Stefan Creaser
Hi Tommy Joe, I like the idea but have some concerns, or a concern. It would seem that the dish is 90% fish, which if we know that fish is expensive means that each portion is going to be small to cover 100+ people. Is there any way you can add a filler (like the original tamale idea which had

Re: [tcrcooks] fish dish recipe

2012-10-02 Thread Leslie Bell
mm... sounds good. Leslie Bell --- On Tue, 10/2/12, Tommy Joe wrote: From: Tommy Joe Subject: [tcrcooks] fish dish recipe To: "tcrco...@texascavers.com" Date: Tuesday, October 2, 2012, 12:13 PM Guys, What do you think about pieces of seafood warped in a banana leaf and seamed.  Serv

[Texascavers] grotto bylaws (or constitutions)

2012-10-02 Thread Mixon Bill
Actually, I'd guess that William Russell might be the only active member who has actually seen bylaws of the UT Grotto. The NSS Internal Organizations Committee (http://caves.org/committee/i-o/ ) used to have a model set of bylaws for grottos. I can't find any such thing on the NSS web site

[Texascavers] z withard / papers

2012-10-02 Thread russ johnson
¿prueba positiva? -- Russ Llano, TX

texascavers Digest 3 Oct 2012 00:51:28 -0000 Issue 1639

2012-10-02 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 3 Oct 2012 00:51:28 - Issue 1639 Topics (messages 20776 through 20785): William L. Wilson Scholarship in Karst Science 20776 by: NSS Announcements Justin Shaw 20777 by: Aimee Beveridge Cave and Karst Webinar Next Week--Not Just for Teachers! 20778

[Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread Mallory Mayeux
Greetings, Texas cavers! The Houston grotto is in the process of updating it's constitution (which hasn't been touched since 1972) and I wanted to get some insight from other parts of the Texas caving community. How many officers does your grotto have? What are their titles/roles? Do you have sep

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread Lyndon Tiu
I think the UT Grotto in Austin has no contitution at all can someone in the UT Grotto confirm this is the case? On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Mallory Mayeux wrote: > Greetings, Texas cavers! > > The Houston grotto is in the process of updating it's constitution (which > hasn't been touche

RE: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread ryan monjaras
According to legend the U.T. Grotto does have a constitution Once upon a time (the mid 70's), the N.S.S. sent out word throughout the land requesting constitutions from all the kingdoms (N.S.S. affiliated grottos) and a copy was magically produced as if out of thin air. Grotto lore says that t

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread Roger Moore
I love that story!! Sent from my iPad On Oct 2, 2012, at 5:53 PM, ryan monjaras wrote: > According to legend the U.T. Grotto does have a constitution Once upon a > time (the mid 70's), the N.S.S. sent out word throughout the land requesting > constitutions from all the kingdoms (N.S.S. affil

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread Josh Rubinstein
The Rockeaters in New York had only two rules. Rule 1) Anyone who wanted to could be president. Rule 2) Kill the president. It cut down on speleo-politics. Josh On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Mallory Mayeux wrote: > Greetings, Texas cavers! > > The Houston grotto is in the process of upd

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread jerryatkin
I have copies of all the extant grotto constitutions that were archived on the TSS files, including the UTG. Jerry. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2012, at 5:53 PM, ryan monjaras wrote: > According to legend the U.T. Grotto does have a constitution Once upon a > time (the mid 70's), the N.S.

RE: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread Marvin and Lisa
The Bexar Grotto has a fairly well written constitution. It was last revised in 1994, when I was just getting started as a caver. The constitution calls for four officers: Chairperson, Vice-Chair of Programs, Vice-Chair of Trips, and Secretary-Treasurer. For a long time now the secretary-treasurer

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread germanyj
I guess this makes you the Grand Wizard! -Original Message- From: jerryatkin To: ryan monjaras Cc: ; texas cavers Sent: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 10:02 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups? I have copies of all the extant grotto constitutions that were archived on the TSS fil

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread jerryatkin
I think not. Just some research files compiled during the writing of 50 Years of Texas Caving. Jerry. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:13 PM, germa...@aol.com wrote: > I guess this makes you the Grand Wizard! > > > > -Original Message- > From: jerryatkin > To: ryan monjar

Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?

2012-10-02 Thread germanyj
Good thing we have organized folks like you! -Original Message- From: jerryatkin To: germanyj Cc: trogdog ; ltiu ; texascavers Sent: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 11:32 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups? I think not. Just some research files compiled during the writing of 50 Y

[tcrcooks] Chicken Chili

2012-10-02 Thread Leslie Bell
Ok, I changed the recipe for the chili due to limited availability of venison. Here we go (feeds about 15): Half a chicken (create own chicken broth by boiling) 1 lb. of dry red kidney beans 3 cloves of garlic 1 jalapeno 1 tablespoon olive oil (yes, a cheat) 16 oz boiler onions 2 teaspoons chili

[tcrcooks] fish dish recipe

2012-10-02 Thread Tommy Joe
Guys, What do you think about pieces of seafood warped in a banana leaf and seamed. Servers would cut the packets open with scissor and offer a spicy or mild sauce to spoon on top. Packet will contain: Fish & shellfish Onion epazote achiote past roasted garlic salt pepper Sauce/mild: roast

RE: [tcrcooks] fish dish recipe

2012-10-02 Thread Stefan Creaser
Hi Tommy Joe, I like the idea but have some concerns, or a concern. It would seem that the dish is 90% fish, which if we know that fish is expensive means that each portion is going to be small to cover 100+ people. Is there any way you can add a filler (like the original tamale idea which had

Re: [tcrcooks] fish dish recipe

2012-10-02 Thread Leslie Bell
mm... sounds good. Leslie Bell --- On Tue, 10/2/12, Tommy Joe wrote: From: Tommy Joe Subject: [tcrcooks] fish dish recipe To: "tcrco...@texascavers.com" List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tuesday, October 2, 2012, 12:13 PM Guys, What do you think about pieces of seafood war