Re: [Texascavers] Posting to Texascavers Digest

2014-07-30 Thread Charles Goldsmith
It's probably just a setting, let me look into it later. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Alex Sproul via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Geeze, Louise! (Not you, Louise.) Can't you people trim your posts? My scrolling finger is worn out! And why am I getting 5 TC

Texascavers Digest, Vol 1, Issue 38

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Texascavers Digest, Vol 1, Issue 34

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[Texascavers] The Texas Caver

2014-07-30 Thread Mixon Bill via Texascavers
Now that the question of the Texas Caver has arisen once again, I am moved to comment. I've largely kept quiet because I am in no position to volunteer to be part of the solution. My armchair-caving time is already oversubscribed. The Texas Caver has recently been a fairly decent effort at

Re: [Texascavers] The Texas Caver

2014-07-30 Thread via Texascavers
Ouch ! Touchy . Jerry. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Jill Orr via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Hi Bill, I don’t usually respond to this kind of email, but this was one that needs attention. Thank you for your critique on the Caver being a

Re: [Texascavers] The Texas Caver

2014-07-30 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
Once upon a time people read books and papers and even knew how to write but the new generation is all into the cereal asile at the Heb or Walmart. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 6:34 PM, via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Ouch ! Touchy . Jerry. Sent from my iPhone On Jul

Re: [Texascavers] The Texas Caver

2014-07-30 Thread George-Paul Richmann via Texascavers
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their

Re: [Texascavers] The Texas Caver

2014-07-30 Thread Stefan Creaser via Texascavers
Tsk tsk... It's HEB and WalMart, seems the oldies can't keep up with the modern ways too ;-) -Stefan From: Texascavers [texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Charles Loving via Texascavers [texascavers@texascavers.com] Sent: 30 July 2014

[Texascavers] Balankanche Cave, Yucatan

2014-07-30 Thread Preston Forsythe via Texascavers
The Washington Post, June 27, '14, announced the death of archaeologist Dr. George E. Stuart., 79. He participated in most of the significant investigations of Mesoamerica archaeology sites, including the Mayan ruins of Coba, Dzibilchaltun and Balankanche Caves. He was the author of several

Re: [Texascavers] Balankanche Cave, Yucatan

2014-07-30 Thread Allan B. Cobb via Texascavers
George Stuart and I became friends in his later years. He was instrumental in getting funding from some of the early cave archeology projects that I worked on. He really liked the cave work we were doing. George was a great story teller and he had LOTS of really amazing to tell stories about.

Texascavers Digest, Vol 1, Issue 32

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Texascavers Digest, Vol 1, Issue 31

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Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] BLM reopens Wyoming's Natural Trap Cave

2014-07-30 Thread CJ Elron
THANKS Alex! I have Barry's snail mail address and will print off the photos that you emailed and send them to him. I have fond memories of Natural Trap Cave and am grateful to have been able to spend a summer working there before there was a grate over the entrance. My first trip to Natural

[Texascavers] Texas Caver

2014-07-30 Thread Heather Tucek via Texascavers
As per request from a caver unnamed, I'm posting this here too. You know, just in case I haven't already royally pissed you off yet. But you know what? Worth it. The Texas Caver has just been sent off to the printer. This is the May issue of the Texas Caver. Why is it almost August and the May

Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver

2014-07-30 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: As per request from a caver unnamed, I'm posting this here too. You know, just in case I haven't already royally pissed you off yet. But you know what? Worth it. The Texas Caver has just been

Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver

2014-07-30 Thread Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers
No, No, Nooo! Save them for the Caver, Mr. Loving, sir, please Here's an idea-- I saw multiple people do interesting things at NSS Convention and maybe no one wants to write a real trip report but multiple brief vignettes by several attendees, collected into a glimpses of Convention

[Texascavers] My scrolling finger is worn out!

2014-07-30 Thread via Texascavers
In a message dated 7/30/2014 11:31:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, texascavers@texascavers.com writes: Geeze, Louise! (Not you, Louise.) Can't you people trim your posts? My scrolling finger is worn out! And why am I getting 5 TC digests in a single day? (Actually postmarked within 90

Re: [PBSS] CREE lights

2014-07-30 Thread Ormsby, Matthew A
Those black and red lights Alex and I have are CREE. They get pretty hot and only last about 2 hours (the type we have) but they work well. I think the one I have is on it's last leg after many years of caving. I got it wet in Abyss climbing out the waterfall last time we went there. 3000

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] CREE lights

2014-07-30 Thread Peter Jones via Texascavers
Not with headlamps, only as regular house incandescent/CFL lamp replacements. We like them because they are cheap ($4 at Home Depot for the 60 W version) and are dimmable to a certain extent. They seem well made and with luck will last longer as lamps than I will as a human being. With power

Re: [PBSS] [Mocaves] CREE lights

2014-07-30 Thread cav...@missourimountaineers.com
I have researched and use the CREE LED chipsCREE is the micro chip that produces the light...not really a brand of light what is it you are wanting to know? most of the Chinese CREE lights are NOT the lumen levels they say they are... 3000 lumens would fry an egg from a foot away...haha

[Texascavers] $ 500 offer

2014-07-30 Thread David via Texascavers
I would like to propose that the TSA sell to me outright The Texas Caver. I offer a price of $ 500.This would include all future legal rights to the name, The Texas Caver, along with any profits, and I would be free to do with the magazine as I wished, such as sell it, rename it, operate it,

[Texascavers] NPR Article Fossils in Wyoming Cave

2014-07-30 Thread Denise P via Texascavers
Heard about this on NPR. Not sure if it's been posted already. Any cavers involved? http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/25/us-usa-fossils-wyoming-idUSKBN0FU07T20140725 Cheers, Denise ___ Texascavers mailing

Re: [Texascavers] The Printed Word

2014-07-30 Thread Jill Orr via Texascavers
You are absolutely right I don’t know what to do. Before I left I asked and asked for articles and photos. I've asked people to help solicit articles. I put so much time into layout and editing, getting it printed and mailed I feel like its pushing the limit to have to spend the time asking

Re: [Texascavers] The Printed Word

2014-07-30 Thread Jill Orr via Texascavers
Sorry y'all for the whine This was supposed to be private reply But if it helps get articles its worth it! jill orr 210.399.6762 jillorr.businesscatalyst.com -Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Jill Orr via Texascavers

Re: [Texascavers] The Printed Word

2014-07-30 Thread via Texascavers
Agreed, Mimi. When I was the Editor, I was dismayed (and somewhat confused) by the fact that folks didn't realize that their article could be printed in BOTH publications. Not all TSA members are NNS members and vice versa. Since these are the dog days of summer and caving in the state, this

Re: [Texascavers] The Printed Word

2014-07-30 Thread via Texascavers
Should read “NSS members”. It’s awfully early. ;) Mark From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of via Texascavers Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 6:38 AM To: mjca...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] The Printed Word Agreed,

Re: [Texascavers] The Printed Word

2014-07-30 Thread Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers
Personally, I'm worried about a long and slow death of the TSA, mainly due to ... and *social networking*. Maybe we can move the Texas Caver magazine to Facebook ... just saying ;-) On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 6:41 AM, via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Should read “NSS

Re: [Texascavers] The Printed Word

2014-07-30 Thread Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers
Oh chill, I'm just kidding ... ;-) On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Heather Tucek trog...@cavechat.org wrote: Facebook claims all rights to everything posted on their site. Photos. Articles. Everything. We don't want to put the TC on Facebook, unless we want to give up all rights to

Re: [Texascavers] The Printed Word

2014-07-30 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
OK good. Where do you want the Adventures of Karst Walker? On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Facebook claims all rights to everything posted on their site. Photos. Articles. Everything. We don't want to put the TC on Facebook,

Re: [Texascavers] The Printed Word

2014-07-30 Thread Heather Tucek via Texascavers
Please send all articles to Jill Orr! She'll be thrilled! Jill: edi...@cavetexas.org On 30 July 2014 07:52, Charles Loving lovingi...@gmail.com wrote: OK good. Where do you want the Adventures of Karst Walker? On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers

Re: [Texascavers] The Printed Word

2014-07-30 Thread Bennett Lee via Texascavers
I send in articles every issue. I have lots more, but I assume you all want some diversity in the Texas Caver instead of just articles written by me. Ah, who am I kidding? My articles are incredibly witty and intelligent and thought-provoking, so of course everyone wants the entire Texas