Re: [Texascavers] Authors of Scientific Articles

2016-08-31 Thread Logan McNatt via Texascavers
Mr. Mixon just loves to poke at the scientists on this list because he knows he'll get a reaction (especially from Diana!). I've enjoyed the explanations and comments from her and others. The Texas caver family includes quite a few scientists in a variety of field

Re: [Texascavers] Grutas del Carrizal

2016-08-31 Thread Bruce Anderson via Texascavers
Donna and I went into Cueva de Carizal years ago I think in the early 80’s. We both wore respirators and did not get sick and we were in the stream and upper passages. Later we were both tested and showed a resistance to histo. But again we had been in many bat caves. Since that time there h

Re: [Texascavers] Grutas del Carrizal

2016-08-31 Thread Nico Escamilla via Texascavers
just a few months ago a boy scout troop visited the cave and many kids got histo.. El ago. 31, 2016 3:16 PM, "Gill Ediger via Texascavers" < texascavers@texascavers.com> escribió: > Moni--I would suggest that you not visit Cueva de Carrizal and not take or > send anyone else there. There have bee

Re: [Texascavers] Grutas del Carrizal

2016-08-31 Thread Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología AC . via Texascavers
Gill thank you. The situation is this.. The Secretary of Tourism create a project to use the cave for tourism, they tender a project of ecotourism and sustainability in the cave. A constructor win the tender. The cave have an incident in the month of march, 25 people (teachers and students scout

Re: [Texascavers] Authors of scientific articles

2016-08-31 Thread Don Arburn via Texascavers
Hey! You two get a room! --Don > On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Bill Steele via Texascavers > wrote: > > You're so cute. > >> On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Diana Tomchick via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> Oddly enough, this afternoon I received a form that I need to fill out in >> order to ha

Re: [Texascavers] Grutas del Carrizal

2016-08-31 Thread Gill Ediger via Texascavers
Moni--I would suggest that you not visit Cueva de Carrizal and not take or send anyone else there. There have been sufficient incidents  of people getting histoplasmosis to warn them there is a danger of contacting a lung fungus. Only people with a known or demonstrated resistance to histo shoul

Re: [Texascavers] Authors of scientific articles

2016-08-31 Thread Bill Steele via Texascavers
You're so cute. > On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Diana Tomchick via Texascavers > wrote: > > Oddly enough, this afternoon I received a form that I need to fill out in > order to have a paper reviewed in eLife, an Open Access journal. > > The form is entitled, "eLife’s transparent reporting form

Re: [Texascavers] Authors of scientific articles

2016-08-31 Thread Diana Tomchick via Texascavers
Oddly enough, this afternoon I received a form that I need to fill out in order to have a paper reviewed in eLife, an Open Access journal. The form is entitled, "eLife’s transparent reporting form.” It consists of detailed questions about how the data was collected, analyzed and any statistical

Re: [Texascavers] Authors of scientific articles

2016-08-31 Thread Mark Minton via Texascavers
As a scientist, I generally agree with the need for multiple "authors", including people who had nothing to do with actually writing an article. However it does seem to have gotten a bit out of control and now people are listed as authors who should more correctly be listed in the Acknowledgments

Re: [Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article

2016-08-31 Thread via Texascavers
That said, it is often the case that the relative value of an article is inversely proportional to the number of authors cited. Given the current frenzy to publish and be recognized for Pd work, it would not be surprising if the number of authors exceeded the length of the article. Jerry Atkins

Re: [Texascavers] New Restoration projects at Carlsbad Caverns starting soon

2016-08-31 Thread Karen Perry via Texascavers
The Park has had its good times and the bad. Its recovering from BAD! The new Resource person  is a hoot and howler to work with. And he is more caver friendly that the last bunch. There are 50 back country caves that have never been surveyed and he wants to get that done. And maybe even resurve

Re: [Texascavers] Carrizal

2016-08-31 Thread Pete Lindsley via Texascavers
On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología AC. via Texascavers wrote: Do you have the dates of that accident? do you know is someone write an article about it? could you please share with me Mónica Ponce 2016-08-31 11:57 GMT-05:00 Charles Loving via Texascavers : A

Re: [Texascavers] Carrizal

2016-08-31 Thread Karen Perry via Texascavers
The entire incident is recorded in detailed time log, complete with newspaper articles in the November 1971 Texas Caver.The boys that drowned were Chris Cleveland 18, and Bruce Stone 17, both from Houston, Texas. Yep, I still have some caving stuff like early Texas Cavers. By the way, does anyon

Re: [Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article

2016-08-31 Thread Geary Schindel via Texascavers
Diana, Very well said, I was thinking of replying also but you hit the nail on the head. Most research these days are a collaboration between many scientists and laboratories. I think the best example I've seen is some of the Super Collider work that might have 150 authors for a paper. Geary

Re: [Texascavers] Carrizal

2016-08-31 Thread Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología AC . via Texascavers
Do you have the dates of that accident? do you know is someone write an article about it? could you please share with me Mónica Ponce 2016-08-31 11:57 GMT-05:00 Charles Loving via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com>: > A couple of people, scouts I think, swam the wrong way in the syphon a

Re: [Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article

2016-08-31 Thread Diana Tomchick via Texascavers
Let me clarify what constitutes authorship on a scientific article. It does not necessarily mean that a person wrote one of the paragraphs. In fact, in the future we may have artificial intelligence to thank for writing much of the routine text in our articles and technical manuals. It DOES mea

Re: [Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article

2016-08-31 Thread Mixon Bill via Texascavers
Wow! Fourteen alleged authors for an article with eight paragraphs. How many of those people do you think were really authors, i.e., writers? How many of them were just bottle washers? -- Mixon Always forgive your enemies after they are hanged. ---

Re: [Texascavers] Carrizal

2016-08-31 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
A couple of people, scouts I think, swam the wrong way in the syphon and drowned. It was back when I was caving a lot. Raines and I swam the syphon with a Rayovac flashlight and two canteen belts latched together. The flashlight lasted just long enough for us to get back out. Really dumb. On Fri,

[Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article

2016-08-31 Thread Diana Tomchick via Texascavers
In the latest issue of mSphere, the American Society for Microbiology open access journal. Anyone should have the ability to access and download this article. First Detection of Bat White-Nose Syndrome in Western North America Jeffrey M. Lorch, Jonathan M. Palmer, Daniel L. Lindner, Anne E. Bal