Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] When Tuberculosis Patients Quarantined Inside Kentucky’s Mammoth Cave :

Now that was fascinating. Mil Gracias! Of course, here at Fort Stanton, there was a successful hospital that housed hundreds of TB patients from 1898 to about the late 1950’s. The old cavalry post transitioned to the TB hospital AND many of the patients and staff explored parts of Fort

Re: [Texascavers] Ron Fiesler

WHITE. TRUMP. SUPPORTERS. NO fbi/deep state agitators cui bono? who benefits. who is getting massive new infusions of money for surveillance and has written a new terrorist bill that basically says US citizens who dare to exercise their constitutional rights are terrorists and

Re: [Texascavers] Ron Fiesler

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Re: [Texascavers] NSS website

Thanks, Carol. I just went to the website & was able to log in. I can get onto all the pages, but when I go to the “membership info” line on the “my profile” sidebar it tries to load my info but keeps reloading and reloading and reloading. Has anyone tried to get into their membership

Re: [Texascavers] James Jasek Update

Bless your Heart Mimi, Im glad you two still have each other. Galen Falgout " Focus,Breath,Mindfulness & Love On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 12:03 AM Mimi Jasek wrote: > Been quite a while since I let anyone know how he is. Since this was a > milestone day - 80th birthday! - I figured it was time

Re: [Texascavers] Calling Texas cavers interested in exploring and surveying in Honey Creek Cave, Texas’ longest cave

Please send me the lead list. Thanks, Diana ** Diana R. Tomchick Professor Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry UT Southwestern Medical Center 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Rm. ND10.214A Dallas, TX 75390-8816

Re: [Texascavers] Photos of Cave Owners

Thanks Carl! I'll pass it along. George George Veni, PhD Executive Director, National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) and President, International Union of Speleology (UIS) NCKRI address (primary) 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220 USA Office:

Re: [Texascavers] Loving photos

At least two those seem to be upside down (11 and 55). Mark M From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Charles Loving Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 7:36 PM To: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Loving photos Yep. They are just pictures out

Re: [Texascavers] Loving photos

Yep. They are just pictures out of huge box of caving . Most ae from Bustamante I would guess. Have no idea. On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 2:08 PM Jim Kennedy wrote: > Charlie, it would help us all immensely if you included some captions or > other form of explanation with your photos. Otherwise they

Re: [Texascavers] Loving photos

Charlie, it would help us all immensely if you included some captions or other form of explanation with your photos. Otherwise they have very limited interest. Just more cave photos. Mobile email from my iPhone > On Jun 5, 2021, at 4:02 PM, Charles Loving wrote: > >  > > > -- > Charlie

Re: [Texascavers] slides

Of course it is.Would the cavers settle for anything less?They played for so many years some folks got tired of their annual show.Go figure. Jon On Wednesday, June 2, 2021, 04:03:14 PM CDT, Katherine Arens wrote: yup.even adjusted the lyric of one song to include Strickland’s hot

Re: [Texascavers] slides

Are those THE Lounge lizards? As in the Austin lounge Lizards? If so the Weazel is highly impressed! Sleaze From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Charles Loving Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 1:20 PM To: Alicia Loving ; quincti...@aol.com; Carl Kunath ; Byrd, Tom M ; Cavers Texas ; Mills

Re: [Texascavers] slides

and one year one of them had to leave early because his wife went into labor? k On Jun 2, 2021, at 5:37 PM, Jon mailto:cavefa...@yahoo.com>> wrote: Of course it is. Would the cavers settle for anything less? They played for so many years some folks got tired of their annual show. Go figure.

Re: [Texascavers] slides

yup. even adjusted the lyric of one song to include Strickland’s hot tub. we kind of startled them as a group. they had fun k On Jun 2, 2021, at 2:34 PM, bmorgan...@aol.com wrote: Are those THE Lounge lizards? As in the Austin lounge Lizards? If so the Weazel is

Re: [Texascavers] slides

The Lounge Lizards played at TCR a couple of time. On 6/2/2021 2:34 PM, bmorgan...@aol.com wrote: Are those THE Lounge lizards? As in the Austin lounge Lizards? If so the Weazel is highly impressed! Sleaze *From:* Texascavers *On Behalf Of *Charles Loving *Sent:* Wednesday, June 2, 2021

Re: [Texascavers] toon

Charlie, loving this! It's about time. Keep 'em coming! On Fri, May 28, 2021, 12:07 PM Charles Loving wrote: > > > -- > Charlie Loving > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >

Re: [Texascavers] toon

Of bmorgan...@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 1:01 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] toon   When oh when will they be extinct? But you got one thing wrong, our governor’s name is Ron deSantamuerte!   Sleazel   From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Charles Loving

Re: [Texascavers] toon

I apologize, I should have made the same comment to Sleazels comment below. From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Jacqui Thomas Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 5:21 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] toon Is this caving? Sent from

Re: [Texascavers] toon

When oh when will they be extinct? But you got one thing wrong, our governor’s name is Ron deSantamuerte! Sleazel From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Charles Loving Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 1:07 PM To: TeleBob ; Ted Samsel ; Fontaine Maverick ; Cavers Texas ; Michael Ventura ; Gretta

Re: [Texascavers] toon

The way that this administration is catering to China, it won’t be long before we are all extinct! From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of bmorgan...@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 1:01 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] toon

Re: [Texascavers] Discovery Days at NBC

Great Bill, Will Orion be there? See you 5 June??? Thanks, Terry > On May 26, 2021, at 10:34 AM, Bill Steele wrote: > > >> >> >>

Re: [Texascavers] Cave syndrome

whatsoever other than a headlamp! Sleazeweazel From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Dwight Deal Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 6:15 PM To: Robert Wood ; DONALD G. DAVIS ; Linda Starr ; Lee Skinner Cc: Cave Texas ; swrcav...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cave syndrome Spelunk Syndrome

Re: [Texascavers] Long, Long, Crawlway

SORRY GANG!! Meant to go to Dwight . . but WRITE JAN CONN anyway. Support your nationally known cavers. . . On May 20, 2021, at 11:54 AM, Katherine Arens mailto:ar...@austin.utexas.edu>> wrote: thank you , it got here along with the bonus. Will be contacting Jan soon. THANK YOU katie On

Re: [Texascavers] Long, Long, Crawlway

thank you , it got here along with the bonus. Will be contacting Jan soon. THANK YOU katie On May 6, 2021, at 12:54 PM, Dwight Deal mailto:dirt...@comcast.net>> wrote: Katie: Your CD is on the way. But in this case, the formation consists of only one caver. Exploring by herself --.

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Call TODAY to pass HB CS 4146 to protect Texas rivers and streams

Thanks for providing the update Bill. To add to the information: https://wrm.capitol.texas.gov/home will help you find your representative. I found mine and unfortunately, my rep for San Antonio, Steve Allison, voted Nay. I'll be writing him. I hope all Texas Cavers (formations) will invest the

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Call TODAY to pass HB CS 4146 to protect Texas rivers and streams

As long as the Republicans rule and are in the pocket of Big Carbon there is nothing you and I can do. Petitions are just pissing into the wind. On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 9:07 AM Bill Steele wrote: > Please act now. > > *From:* Annalisa Peace > *Date:* May 11, 2021 at 7:05:30 AM CDT > *To:*

Re: [Texascavers] Cave syndrome

Spelunk Syndrome Thanks a lot Lee, Donald, Rob, Linda. This article seems to describe what may be a significant COVID-related problem. You and others have made some thoughtful comments. Linda has a good point. Some of the posted comments seem quite reasonable. I am afraid that mine are

Re: [Texascavers] Plural Nouns for Cavers -We have a winner!

and way too organized?? On May 10, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Jocelyn Hooper mailto:jociehoope...@gmail.com>> wrote: I agree Charlie. Makes me thing of a wedge formation of Roman or Greek soldiers with shields and swords ready for battle! Jocie On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 1:50 PM Charles Loving

Re: [Texascavers] Plural Nouns for Cavers -We have a winner!

I agree Charlie. Makes me thing of a wedge formation of Roman or Greek soldiers with shields and swords ready for battle! Jocie On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 1:50 PM Charles Loving wrote: > Very militaristic. Formation of cavers. The ones I went to town with nwere > more of gaggle or a herd of mud

Re: [Texascavers] [Sandia Grotto]: Cave syndrome

Maybe there should not be a name for everything under the sun. This is ridiculous. Linda Starr On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 12:02 AM Lee H. Skinner wrote: > > What do cavers think of this: > > > >

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cave syndrome

Waitshouldn’t Cavers be the first sufferers of “cave syndrome”? Sent from my iPhone > On May 9, 2021, at 8:42 AM, Carol Belski wrote: > > The end of the article nails it: should be prison syndrome. Someone who > has never been a caver obviously misnamed this “syndrome”. > —Carol > >>

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cave syndrome

The end of the article nails it: should be prison syndrome. Someone who has never been a caver obviously misnamed this “syndrome”. —Carol > On May 9, 2021, at 12:01 AM, Lee H. Skinner wrote: > > > What do cavers think of this: > > >

Re: [Texascavers] Cave syndrome

I think we are seeing 'cave syndrome' among some members of the Mon-Fri Hikers in Austin. Numbers attending the hikes are increasing, but at a slower rate than I would expect based upon the high degree of covid safety of outdoor activities. Several members of the group have PM'ed me that they

Re: [Texascavers] Plural Nouns for Cavers -We have a winner!

an encrustation of cavers. yep, those are the ones I started out with > On May 8, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Charles Loving wrote: > > mud encrusted ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives:

Re: [Texascavers] Plural Nouns for Cavers -We have a winner!

Very militaristic. Formation of cavers. The ones I went to town with nwere more of gaggle or a herd of mud encrusted On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:25 AM Lee H. Skinner wrote: > For the record, it was NSS caver John Cochran of Albuquerque who > submitted the word formation in the original

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Re: Plural Nouns for Cavers -We have a winner!

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 12:51 PM Linda Starr wrote: > Good examples of usage. I sure am glad the results turned in favor of > John’s bright idea. I will congratulate him next. > Take care all and get your vaccinations, > Linda Starr 驪 > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 11:24 AM Lee H. Skinner > wrote:

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Re: Plural Nouns for Cavers -We have a winner!

Congratulations John; and thank you Lee for the diversion and learning experience. las -Original Message- From: Lee H. Skinner Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2021 11:24 AM To: SWR >> New Mexico Cavers ; Texas Cavers ; Sandia Grotto Subject: [SWR CAVERS] Re: Plural Nouns for Cavers -We have

Re: [Texascavers] Plural Nouns for Cavers -We have a winner!

AND, i would like to point out that the TSA convention shirts HAVE a formation of cavers on them . . . prescient! katie On May 6, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Lee H. Skinner mailto:skin...@thuntek.net>> wrote: For the record, it was NSS caver John Cochran of Albuquerque who submitted the word formation

Re: [Texascavers] Plural Nouns for Cavers -We have a winner!

For the record, it was NSS caver John Cochran of Albuquerque who submitted the word formation in the original ballot of 59 entries. Here are are few more examples of ways that the plural noun for cavers could be used: The city welcomed the formation of hundreds of NSS cavers to its annual

Re: [Texascavers] Plural Nouns for Cavers - Results and a tie

Reminder, This is the last day to vote in the runoff.  I hope to post the results on Thursday. On 5/3/2021 1:34 AM, Lee H. Skinner wrote: Just send me (skin...@thuntek.net)  your choice again of one of the following:  A column of cavers  A crawl of cavers  A descent of cavers  A formation

Re: [Texascavers] Looking for Terry Rains' email address

Terry’s business email, but he sometimes also uses it for personal messages: . Mark Minton From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 5:48 PM To: texascavers Subject: [Texascavers] Looking for Terry Rains' email address I apparently have

Re: [Texascavers] A name

Try Charlie Loving or Igor. > On 05/03/2021 1:45 PM Charles Loving wrote: > > > I had one but then I forgot it. > > -- > Charlie Loving > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >

Re: [Texascavers] Plural Noun for Cavers Ballot

Those damn Republican Cavers stole the election or was it the Democrats? On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 4:40 PM Dwight Deal wrote: > Ah Well ---. I both missed that and did not intend to do that. I just hit > reply to some email. Lazy me. Sorry. > > > Dirtdoc >

Re: [Texascavers] [Sandia Grotto]: Plural Nouns for Cavers - Results and a tie

OK, we have have a Deal! On 5/3/2021 7:02 AM, Dwight Deal wrote: Since this is a plural noun, perhaps we should all crawl in formation? This is not a vote! Just a thought. Dirtdoc Sent from my iPhone ___ Texascavers mailing list |

Re: [Texascavers] [Sandia Grotto]: Plural Nouns for Cavers - Results and a tie

What else is there to say Dwight?  You've said it all! Lee On 5/3/2021 7:24 AM, Dwight Deal wrote: OK. A column of us should descend in formation and crawl at the bottom. Dirtdoc Sent from my iPhone On May 3, 2021, at 7:02 AM, Dwight Deal wrote: Since this is a plural noun, perhaps we

Re: [Texascavers] Neanderthals built cave structures

They sound like true caverss. Some of those genes must have come through to the present. Carol Russell On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 9:15 AM Bill Steele wrote: > For more than 3,000 years prehistoric indigenous cavers covered as much as > 16 miles of Mammoth Cave, Kentucky, seeking minerals. They

Re: [Texascavers] [Sandia Grotto]: Plural Nouns for Cavers - Results and a tie

OK. A column of us should descend in formation and crawl at the bottom. Dirtdoc Sent from my iPhone > On May 3, 2021, at 7:02 AM, Dwight Deal wrote: > > Since this is a plural noun, perhaps we should all crawl in formation? > > This is not a vote! Just a thought. > > Dirtdoc > > Sent

Re: [Texascavers] [Sandia Grotto]: Plural Nouns for Cavers - Results and a tie

Since this is a plural noun, perhaps we should all crawl in formation? This is not a vote! Just a thought. Dirtdoc Sent from my iPhone > On May 3, 2021, at 1:34 AM, Lee H. Skinner wrote: > > RESULTS OF THE PLURAL NOUN FOR CAVERS POLL AND THE NEED FOR A RUNOFF POLL > > > There were 59

Re: [Texascavers] Plural Noun for Cavers Ballot

I protest the unwillingness to accept the votes. The voting Gestapo police on the listserv are as bad as the modern day republican party. Geez, guys, it’s not even important. > On May 2, 2021, at 14:40, Dwight Deal wrote: > > Ah Well ---. I both missed that and did not intend to do that. I

Re: [Texascavers] Plural Noun for Cavers Ballot

Ah Well ---. I both missed that and did not intend to do that. I just hit reply to some email. Lazy me. Sorry. Dirtdoc ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives:

Re: [Texascavers] Plural Noun for Cavers Ballot

Sorry for previous confusing email: Typo corrected.  It should be: : In the ballot, I specifically asked that votes be sent to me only and not to the lists.  This can widely influence other cavers and skew results. Because the Rules at the bottom of the ballot were not followed by a voter,

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers (resend)

In the ballot, I specifically asked that votes not be sent to me only and not to the lists.  This can widely influence other cavers and skew results. Because the Rules at the bottom of the ballot were not followed by a voter, I'm sorry that that vote will not be counted. Lee

Re: [Texascavers] Tree Roots in Caves

I remember being on the trip to the Powell’s Cave with the Tree Root Scientist back in the last millennium.   Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Saturday, May 1, 2021, 7:19 PM, AC wrote: Tree roots are very common in Hawaiian lava tubes. They are often where insects are found because of the

Re: [Texascavers] [Texas cavers] Tree Roots in Caves

, May 1, 2021 7:09 PM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Tree Roots in Caves  We see tree roots in Arbuckle Mountain caves pretty regularly. Most of the time, the roots are found closer to entrances or near entrances that we haven’t found yet. An interesting correlation

Re: [Texascavers] Tree Roots in Caves

To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Tree Roots in Caves  We see tree roots in Arbuckle Mountain caves pretty regularly. Most of the time, the roots are found closer to entrances or near entrances that we haven’t found yet. An interesting correlation to roots is seeing vegetation

Re: [Texascavers] Tree Roots in Caves

Tree roots are very common in Hawaiian lava tubes. They are often where insects are found because of the low amount of organic matter in lava tubes. The are also quite common in tropical caves as the trees are seeking water. I’ve seen tree roots in caves with as much as 20 m of overburden.

Re: [Texascavers] Tree Roots in Caves

 We see tree roots in Arbuckle Mountain caves pretty regularly. Most of the time, the roots are found closer to entrances or near entrances that we haven’t found yet. An interesting correlation to roots is seeing vegetation bands across rock prairie areas that appear to follow faults that

Re: [Texascavers] Tree Roots in Caves

If anyone is interested, I have several more papers that were written on different aspects of the root studies. Jerry Atkinson. -Original Message- From: George Veni To: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Fri, Apr 30, 2021 8:58 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Tree Roots in Caves

Re: [Texascavers] Tree Roots in Caves

Cool, thanksJon On Friday, April 30, 2021, 10:04:10 AM CDT, Mark Minton wrote: While thumbing through the April NSS News (conservation issue), I came across an article about tree roots in lava tubes in New Mexico. One of the references in that article caught my eye: “Ecosystem

Re: [Texascavers] Tree Roots in Caves

Thanks, Mark. I took those guys to lots of caves, and never heard any results, either. Jim Mobile email from my iPhone > On Apr 30, 2021, at 10:04 AM, Mark Minton wrote: > >  > While thumbing through the April NSS News (conservation issue), I came across > an article about tree roots in

Re: [Texascavers] Neanderthals built cave structures

For more than 3,000 years prehistoric indigenous cavers covered as much as 16 miles of Mammoth Cave, Kentucky, seeking minerals. They not only traversed crawlways with their handheld torches, but they brought in poles and shinnied up them with their torches to higher passages. See:

Re: [Texascavers] Neanderthals built cave structures

Wow. They must have taken their burning torches through the crawlway. On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 7:44 AM Mike Flannigan wrote: > > Neanderthals built cave structures > > https://www.nature.com/news/neanderthals-built-cave-structures-and-no-one-knows-why-1.19975 > > >

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Plural Noun for Cavers Ballot

To all those who didn't submit an entry, please vote too.  It is this group that is likely to be least biased. There are some good gems in this 59-entry list. Please take the time to carefully consider them all. Lee ___ Texascavers mailing list |

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Plural Noun for Cavers Ballot

Note: On the ballot,   _  |_|  A subwilder should be   _  |_|  A subwilder of cavers Lee ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/

Re: [Texascavers] looking for cave near Langtry

LiDAR for that area is recently available so if there is a significant surface feature associated with this cave it may be located thru that. Send me coords AGG From: "George Veni" To: "texascavers" Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 12:24:35 PM Subject: Re: [Texascave

Re: [Texascavers] a notice that some of you might have missed.

Hi Dwight - thanks for the wonderful letter about Jan Conn. what a wonderful role model and words to live by: “If life consisted only of what we planned it could get pretty dull. It’s the unexpected that gives life it’s punch. Who would go caving if we already knew what was

Re: [Texascavers] looking for cave near Langtry

This isn’t the one I’m looking for, but thanks for the reference. I had not seen this one written up before although I’ve been to several caves and lots of occupied rockshelters near here. John > On Apr 28, 2021, at 7:43 PM, Karstwalker wrote: > > So might this be the cave listed in NSS

Re: [Texascavers] looking for cave near Langtry

So might this be the cave listed in NSS Bulletin No10 as Fielder Canyon Cave? See attached description Terry H. On 2021-04-28 12:39, john wrote: Hi All, Hopefully someone can help me locate a small vertical cave north or northwest of Langtry. I have known of this cave for decades, but

Re: [Texascavers] Plural noun for Cavers

why not a PACK of cavers? On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 01:34:26 AM MDT, Lee H. Skinner wrote: Today (Wednesday) is the last day to submit to me any more suggestions for the Plural Noun for Cavers contest for Texas and New Mexico cavers.  Cavers from other states reading these lists

Re: [Texascavers] International Year of Caves and Karst event

Carol, Thanks for sending this reminder. I’m only replying to the Texas and SWR lists since I’m not on the others (but feel free to repost this if you’d like). It excellent to see this Virginia event announced There are 118 other upcoming events already listed at

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

A Family of cavers...a Party of cavers...a Geode of cavers Jocie On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 3:46 PM Lee H. Skinner wrote: > Thanks, Carol. > > > We now have 37 entries. I've attached the list here. If the JPEG > attachment is scrubbed from the Texas list, you can see it in the SWR list. > > >

Re: [Texascavers] test

Thank you. Got it. On Sunday, April 25, 2021, 09:25:10 AM CDT, Sheryl Rieck wrote: Did I pass? Sheryl riecksheryl.ri...@gmail.com "You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might find you get what you need" Rolling Stones On Apr 24, 2021, at 11:32 PM,

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

A void of cavers? On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 4:46 PM Lee H. Skinner wrote: > Thanks, Carol. > > > We now have 37 entries. I've attached the list here. If the JPEG > attachment is scrubbed from the Texas list, you can see it in the SWR list. > > > Lee > > > On 4/25/2021 2:23 PM, 'C Tiderman' via

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

-nouns/common-collectives>. Mark M -Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Lee H. Skinner Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 1:33 AM To: swrcav...@googlegroups.com; Texas Cavers; Sandia Grotto Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

oun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of >> Lee H. Skinner >> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 1:33 AM >> To: swrcav...@googlegroups.com; Texas Cavers; Sandia Grotto >> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers >> >> Donald, >> >> You're right - maybe it's

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

ilto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Lee H. Skinner Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 1:33 AM To: swrcav...@googlegroups.com; Texas Cavers; Sandia Grotto Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers Donald, You're right - maybe it's a silly venture - maybe cavers will refuse to adop

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

Thanks, Carol. We now have 37 entries.  I've attached the list here.  If the JPEG attachment is scrubbed from the Texas list, you can see it in the SWR list. Lee On 4/25/2021 2:23 PM, 'C Tiderman' via Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society wrote: scientist - a query

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

a derangement of cavers. or at least they were when I started in the late 70’s N ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of > Lee H. Skinner > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 1:33 AM > To: swrcav...@googlegroups.com; Texas Cavers; Sandia Grotto > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers > > Donald, > > You're right - maybe it's a silly ven

Re: [Texascavers] test

Did I pass? Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com "You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might find you get what you need" Rolling Stones > On Apr 24, 2021, at 11:32 PM, Mark wrote: > >  > test > ___ > Texascavers

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Lee H. Skinner Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 1:33 AM To: swrcav...@googlegroups.com; Texas Cavers; Sandia Grotto Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers Donald, You're right - maybe it's a silly

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

Donald, You're right - maybe it's a silly venture - maybe cavers will refuse to adopt the noun after the contest - but it's a fun thing to do anyway, and it exhibits a little creativity that we can share among ourselves, and maybe a few laughs in these days when real caving is limited.  So

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

Thanks, Mimi. I want to remind people that it's OK to create completely new words as well, ans if you can't think of something, try using a thesaurus. Even consider proper names.  I'll limit the entries to no more than four per person as Jim Evatt has submitted four, but just don't throw out

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

Hey Lee, Just having some fun  I think it a great idea, and look forward to voting! Seems to have caught on among the caver family. Congratulations on sparking such creativity, and look forward to seeing the final list of entries. Mimi Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 24, 2021, at 8:46 PM, Lee

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

If it’s not too late to submit a couple of other offerings, I would suggest the following: Karstacians Cuevanauts Thanks, Mark Ross From: Lee H. Skinner Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 8:46 PM To: SWR >> New Mexico Cavers ; Texas Cavers ; Sandia Grotto Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [SWR

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

Thanks, Mimi! Very cute essay. But there will be only one winner and no 2nd or 3rd place winners.  I will announce the number of votes each name got, and if there is no majority, I will hold a runoff vote (there is no reason to rush it through). So the term will refer to all cavers, not

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

This thread has actually been quite fun, and I wonder if there could be more than one winner? Maybe top three for different types of cavers? Imagine a report from a national convention one day during this special year.. Well, we have quite the large gathering today. There is a group of

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

Joe Ivy used to call a crowd of cavers queued up at a constriction an “idiot sump,” So how about a Sump of Cavers? > On Apr 24, 2021, at 1:40 PM, Robert West wrote: > >  > Another option...a clamber of cavers. > > climb, move about, or get in or out of something in an awkward and

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

Another option...a clamber of cavers.    climb, move about, or get in or out of something in an awkward and laborious way, typically using both hands and feet.Bob WestOn Apr 24, 2021 12:01 AM, Val Hildreth-Werker wrote:We’ve all used it, lots of cluster references regarding caves, speleothems,

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Out of the cave: French isolation study ends after 40 days

A similar experiment was conducted in Lost Cave outside of Carlsbad by a single woman back in the sixties (I believe). And the woman husband had conducted a similar effort prior to that. Biggest difference was the current effort was done by a group versus individuals. Ken Sent from my iPad >

Re: [Texascavers] [Sandia Grotto]: Re: [SWR CAVERS] Re: Cavers

off to. > > Jerry. > > -Original Message- > From: John Brooks <mailto:john.brooks.archit...@gmail.com>> > To: texascavers@texascavers.com <mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> > Cc: SWR >> New Mexico Cavers <mailto:swrcav...@googlegroups.com>&g

Re: [Texascavers] [Sandia Grotto]: Re: [SWR CAVERS] Re: Cavers

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Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

We’ve all used it, lots of cluster references regarding caves, speleothems, and cavers! … a cluster of cavers. Val Val Hildreth-Werker Conservation Division Joint Chief National Speleological Society caves.org/conservaton/ valhildrethwer...@caves.org On Apr 23, 2021, at 9:11 PM, Lee H.

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

Yes, we will vote.   Any caver whether on one of these lists or not can make suggestions until Wednesday, so you can pass this on to caver in other states.  I will post a ballot of suggested plural nouns for cavers on this Thursday.  Cavers can send their secret votes to me before the

Re: [Texascavers] Cavers

leave trash and other mementos of their adventures. These folks have no idea what they're marching off to. Jerry. -Original Message- From: John Brooks To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: SWR >> New Mexico Cavers ; Sandia Grotto Sent: Fri, Apr 23, 2021 5:35 pm Subje

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

Thanks, John. We now have a dozen creative entries (maybe more from Texas as I just get the daily digest every morning): Breakdown        Katherine Arens Caveat                Penny Boston Cavalcade          Steve Peerman Cascade        George Veni Clump                Mimi Jasek Clunk 

Re: [Texascavers] [Sandia Grotto]: Re: [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

t;>>>> >>>>>> A group of expedition cavers would likely be a column of cavers as they >>>>>> have a purpose and a mission, well regimented and disciplined. Marching >>>>>> off into the unknown karst for fame and fortune. >>&g

Re: [Texascavers] [Sandia Grotto]: Re: [SWR CAVERS] Re: Cavers

likely be a column of cavers as they >>>>>> have a purpose and a mission, well regimented and disciplined. Marching >>>>>> off into the unknown karst for fame and fortune. >>>>>> >>>>>> A group of recreational cavers would more

Re: [Texascavers] [Sandia Grotto]: Re: [SWR CAVERS] Cavers

exascavers.com> Cc: SWR >> New Mexico Cavers mailto:swrcav...@googlegroups.com>>; Sandia Grotto mailto:national-speleological-soci...@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Fri, Apr 23, 2021 5:35 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cavers Karsty’s

Re: [Texascavers] [Sandia Grotto]: Re: [SWR CAVERS] Re: Cavers

texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: SWR >> New Mexico Cavers <swrcav...@googlegroups.com>; Sandia Grotto national-speleological-soci...@googlegroups.com> Sent: Fri, Apr 23, 2021 5:35 pm

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