Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-16 Thread Gill Edigar
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Stefan Creaser wrote: > Why would one (want to) download and print an online publication (the > "members manual")? Surely the whole point of it being online is so you don’t > have a printed copy?!! > > Oh, no, Stefan, that's exactly wrong. Reading something on-line

RE: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-16 Thread Mark . Alman
rs Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses? Why would one (want to) download and print an online publication (the "members manual")? Surely the whole point of it being online is so you don't have a printed copy?!! What's y'alls obsession

RE: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-16 Thread Mark . Alman
rs Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses? Why would one (want to) download and print an online publication (the "members manual")? Surely the whole point of it being online is so you don't have a printed copy?!! What's y'alls obsession

Re: RE: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-16 Thread tbsamsel
d-Original Message->From: Butch Fralia >Sent: Dec 16, 2009 12:19 AM>To: 'Rod Goke' , 'Charles Goldsmith' >Cc: 'TexasCavers' >Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?>>While it's possible that a malware program

RE: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-16 Thread Stefan Creaser
d Goke [mailto:rod.g...@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 2:14 AM To: Butch Fralia; 'Rod Goke'; 'Charles Goldsmith' Cc: 'TexasCavers' Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses? Thanks, Butch, for the detailed and informative

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2009-12-16 Thread Rod Goke
atter, there are so many >unprotected/unspoofed e-mail addresses to swamp most databases so why bother? > >I don't know if this puts anyone's mind at ease but it's the way it works. > >Happy Holidays, > >Butch Fralia > > > > >-Original Messag

RE: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-15 Thread Butch Fralia
lish the same email address, a different (less protected) address, or none at all. Rod -----Original Message- >From: Charles Goldsmith >Sent: Dec 15, 2009 4:09 PM >To: Rod Goke >Cc: TexasCavers >Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses? > >R

Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-15 Thread Rod Goke
rom: Charles Goldsmith >Sent: Dec 15, 2009 4:09 PM >To: Rod Goke >Cc: TexasCavers >Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses? > >Rod, that wasn't a personal attack, if you took it as such, you need >to re-read my message and think about how it wa

Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-15 Thread Charles Goldsmith
;throw this stone into the hornets nest," because I wanted >>> people to actually start thinking about the issue, instead of just telling >>> us "don't worry, be happy." The problem would be easy to fix if TSA simply >>> would make a commitment to it

Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-15 Thread ellie :)
d about the TSA's online data resources, however, create much more > >> uncertainty about how they will be managed. This is why it is important > to > >> have serious discussions of the issues beforehand to prevent problems, > >> especially when some of them could be prevente

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2009-12-15 Thread Charles Goldsmith
oblems, >> especially when some of them could be prevented so easily with a few minor >> policy decisions. >> >> Rod >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >From: Charles Goldsmith >> >Sent: Dec 15, 2009 10:48 AM >> >To: Rod Goke >&g

Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-15 Thread ellie :)
> Rod > > > -Original Message- > >From: Charles Goldsmith > >Sent: Dec 15, 2009 10:48 AM > >To: Rod Goke > >Cc: Bill Bentley , John Brooks , > Mark Alman , TexasCavers < > texascavers@texascavers.com> > >Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can

Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-15 Thread Rod Goke
l Message- >From: Charles Goldsmith >Sent: Dec 15, 2009 10:48 AM >To: Rod Goke >Cc: Bill Bentley , John Brooks , >Mark Alman , TexasCavers >Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses? > >Rod, your paranoia is unwarranted here, only by the fact that

Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-15 Thread mmcart1061
Take me off cavetex for now Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:48:15 To: Rod Goke Cc: Bill Bentley; John Brooks; Mark Alman; TexasCavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses? Rod

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2009-12-15 Thread Sheryl Rieck
;-) -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:45 AM To: Sheryl Rieck Cc: Rod Goke; Bill Bentley; John Brooks; Mark Alman; TexasCavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with

Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-15 Thread Charles Goldsmith
cember 15, 2009 9:48 AM > To: Rod Goke > Cc: Bill Bentley; John Brooks; Mark Alman; TexasCavers > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses? > >       Rod, your paranoia is unwarranted here, only by the fact that over > 360 >       people have your email add

RE: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-15 Thread Sheryl Rieck
.) -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:48 AM To: Rod Goke Cc: Bill Bentley; John Brooks; Mark Alman; TexasCavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses? Rod

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2009-12-15 Thread Charles Goldsmith
o member's email address will >> be included in any online list unless that member explicitly "opts in" for >> inclusion in the list. TSA members need to be able to register for website >> access without having their email addresses published in an online list. &g

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2009-12-15 Thread Mark . Alman
Brooks; Alman, Mark @ IRP; TexasCavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses? Rod, your paranoia is unwarranted here, only by the fact that over 360 people have your email address and each others. Anyone of them could harvest most of the emails after a bit of time by

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2009-12-15 Thread Charles Goldsmith
7;t blaming nor condeming the TSA, I was just >>stating the fact that I get hundreds of thousands of spam emails. >>Mark, I like the TSA and I think I get my moneys worth from volunteers who >>are very much appreciated. >> >>Bill >>- Original Message - >>F

Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-15 Thread Rod Goke
in an online list. Rod -Original Message- >From: Bill Bentley >Sent: Dec 14, 2009 11:17 AM >To: John Brooks >Cc: TexasCavers >Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses? > >For the record Mark, I wasn't blaming nor condeming the TSA, I was

Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-14 Thread Bill Bentley
ohn Brooks" To: "Bill Bentley" Cc: "Rod Goke" ; "TexasCavers" ; "Rod Goke" Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses? The TSA has my e mail.and I getoh maybe one or two junk m

Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-14 Thread John Brooks
The TSA has my e mail.and I getoh maybe one or two junk mail messages per WEEK. Paranoia runs deep concerning e mail spam. But unjustly condemning the TSA for something they are not doing or really at fault for..hardly seems fair or reasonable. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2009

Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-14 Thread Bill Bentley
Rod, My ca...@caver.net email address gets a spam email message every 2 to 3 seconds... literally thousands per hour... all of it goes into a spam folder and good spam sorting software on the email server helps me figure what is crap and what is not... End of the day I am deleting a lot of s

Re: [Texascavers] Can TSA be trusted with email addresses?

2009-12-14 Thread JerryAtkin
Well, the TSA does have an online listing of the electronically registered membership on its website. It's a password protected site. Jerry. In a message dated 12/14/2009 2:05:11 A.M. Central Standard Time, rod.g...@earthlink.net writes: All this talk about electronic vs. paper publica